Super odd sounding title but I’ve been getting back into the halo community and I completely missed halo 5. There seems to be a ton of hate for Locke and specifically a meme where he gets hit below the belt. I was just curious as to where this came from? Was there a specific meme or video or something that started this pretty funny meme?
The meme is a representation of how we all felt when the marketing for Halo 5 Guardians lied to us and the fact that we only got to play as Blue Team for 1/5 of the game’s campaign.
In short, we all feel like we got kicked in the nuts. All because Brian Reed decided to rewrite Halo 5 into Halo 5 Guardians and make it a terrible game.
A fingerless monkey with a typewriter can write a better story than the “author” known as Brian Reed.
Not to call myself a fingerless monkey but here is my attempt at writing Halo 5 to follow the original story it WAS supposed to tell BEFORE Brian rewrote the game to no longer line up with Hunt The Truth and the marketing. I also challenged myself with having the script still lead into Halo Wars 2 and Halo Infinite, so the final third is slightly tweaked from what was likely planned to be in the original script.
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> The meme is a representation of how we all felt when the marketing for Halo 5 Guardians lied to us and the fact that we only got to play as Blue Team for 1/5 of the game’s campaign.
> In short, we all feel like we got kicked in the nuts. All because Brian Reed decided to rewrite Halo 5 into Halo 5 Guardians and make it a terrible game.
> A fingerless monkey with a typewriter can write a better story than the “author” known as Brian Reed.
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> Not to call myself a fingerless monkey but here is my attempt at writing Halo 5 to follow the original story it WAS supposed to tell BEFORE Brian rewrote the game to no longer line up with Hunt The Truth and the marketing. I also challenged myself with having the script still lead into Halo Wars 2 and Halo Infinite, so the final third is slightly tweaked from what was likely planned to be in the original script.
Haha ok I figured it was something like that. Do you have any sources about the storyline? So it was changed AFTER marketing campaign influence? I know Brian reed is no longer with 343i, but any sort of info to catch me up would be appreciated!
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> > The meme is a representation of how we all felt when the marketing for Halo 5 Guardians lied to us and the fact that we only got to play as Blue Team for 1/5 of the game’s campaign.
> > In short, we all feel like we got kicked in the nuts. All because Brian Reed decided to rewrite Halo 5 into Halo 5 Guardians and make it a terrible game.
> > A fingerless monkey with a typewriter can write a better story than the “author” known as Brian Reed.
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> > Not to call myself a fingerless monkey but here is my attempt at writing Halo 5 to follow the original story it WAS supposed to tell BEFORE Brian rewrote the game to no longer line up with Hunt The Truth and the marketing. I also challenged myself with having the script still lead into Halo Wars 2 and Halo Infinite, so the final third is slightly tweaked from what was likely planned to be in the original script.
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> Haha ok I figured it was something like that. Do you have any sources about the storyline? So it was changed AFTER marketing campaign influence? I know Brian reed is no longer with 343i, but any sort of info to catch me up would be appreciated!
Interviews. Concept Art that was devolved. And the scrapped remains of Spartan Ops Season 2 and 3 that WOULD’VE explained Gabriel Thorne’s involvement as Player 4 on Fireteam Osiris and of course; all the information from Hunt The Truth and other bridging media that contradicts the story we got from Brian Reed.
The meme comes from a Halo Follower video. Personally the video comes off in poor taste, Locke’s part in H5 is fine given the circumstances. Poor writing decisions are separate problem that plagued H5, no need to make Locke a mascot for hatred.
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> The meme comes from a Halo Follower video. Personally the video comes off in poor taste, Locke’s part in H5 is fine given the circumstances. Poor writing decisions are separate problem that plagued H5, no need to make Locke a mascot for hatred.
Locke isn’t really the mascot for the hatred in my opinion. There is no need for a mascot when we know the name behind the problem : Brian Reed.
Locke was actually a well made character that was mishandled by Brian Reed, one the the things he does best is mishandling good characters.
I don’t share the Osiris/Locke hate, quite enjoy H5 all round really.
But, as an old fan of the games and fiction, I truly loved having Blue Team together in a game, literally made my heart sing and something I enjoy playing now and again, just to feel good for Chief that he got his family back after all that went down (yes, it’s all fiction, but I can emphasise if I want! 
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I do think it’s a shame that the reception H5 got might mean I don’t get to enjoy that same deal in future Halo games. I can hope. But it doesn’t feel like that’s the path we’re on.
Just reminds me of the reception H2 and the Arbiter got…
I think it was mostly the marketing that left people feeling kicked in the nuts as stated earlier in the thread. The marketing did not match at all with what we got in Halo 5. This has happened before most notably with Halo 2.
I was expecting Halo 2 to mostly focus on a war for earth and we only got 2-3 missions of it. The difference is that with Halo 2 we didn’t just get something different, but something far superior from what was expected. We got an odyssey across the galaxy looking into the lives of the covi and the history of the forerunners and flood. It had a crap cliff-hanger ending and I really wanted the battle for earth. I was also a little disappointed with the number of chief levels, but I also really enjoyed the arbiter levels. I think bungie also eventually made up for the misleading Halo 2 marketing by providing that earth campaign in Halo 3 ODST.
Halo 5’s original marketed story had a Master Chief who had left the UNSC and was currently running around the galaxy doing all sorts of stuff that no one knew about or understood. He was activating forerunner artefacts that sometimes lead to people dying. He was crossing boarders and boundaries doing things that were upsetting the peace treaties with old members of the covi. At one point he kidnaped some politicians who later turned up dead. Spartan Locke was tasked with reigning in this loose cannon who could set off another full scale war. Locke was the perfect man for the mission and was totally focused and devoted to it even though he had some second thoughts about it. The big question was if chief was actually going around causing these bad things to happen or if he was rushing in to stop them and failing. Either way things had gotten so bad that the answer to that question didn’t matter for Lock’s mission.
Instead what we got in Halo 5 was a lot more boring in my opinion. It also made much of the marketing totally not cannon anymore where as halo 2’s marketing was never pushed to being not cannon. Seriously Hunt the Truth was great and if Halo 5 was following that it would have been really intense.
The only purpose of blue team in the game was to kiss Chief’s butt. They really couldn’t come up with better dialogue from them than that?