Orange and Blue Prometheans, perks interest

> I was looking at the red and orange Prometheans and the Blue ones that appear at the end of the E3 trailer there is a strikeing difference in the face and look at the crawlers very different.
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> Red prometheans http://gamebox.la/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/e32012_halo4_campaign2_.jpg

Kudos to the dude in the quote. Looking at these pictures perks my interest. If any of you were at SDCC and saw the cutscene 343 revealed for Halo 4 describing the tension of the Infinity Captain and John. At the end of the cutscene, Cortana flashes red and does the whole “I will not allow you to leave…this…planet!!” yell. At the end of the E3 trailer we see Blue Prometheans, as stated in the quoted text. These Prometheans have a closed mouthguard or whatever you want to call it, while the Orange Prometheans have an open mouthguard.

So here is my theory, the Didact may be rage-filled on the quest to find his wife, the Librarian, as stated at the very end of Primordium. But people have already stated that it’s either not the Didact, but it could be that the Didacts rage could have possibly corrupted him on the course of finding his wife.

So here is the biggest question of my life, and the one question some of us will be trying to figuire out the answer to and will search for when we play Halo 4.

Are the Orange Prometheans, just rampant AI that have been awakened, or do these kin of Prometheans, have the same corrupted rage that the Didact, or whatever the case this Ancient Evil does have.

Why do we see these Blue Prometheans, and the Crawlers in a different form? Could these be soldiers of the Librarain? Perhaps, we meet the Librarian in Halo 4 before the Didact or this Ancient Evil finds her?

I think that maybe the orange ones are there to keep the Didact there and the blue ones work for the Didact.

Some orange knights have closed mothguards too.

most forerunners believe the librarian is dead including the didact.

> most forerunners believe the librarian is dead including the didact.

Which is why I don’t think the Didact’s motives as an Ancient Evil wouldn’t really be about the Librarian.

I would expect the Librarian to show up as a surprise in the end, perhaps calming the Didact.

I think its more like
Red: Under control of Ancient Evil
Blue: The ones able to resist control, helping the Humans stop the Ancient Evil.

Well, according to Greg Bear, there are two Didacts. Perhaps red Prometheans belong to the ‘bad’ Diadact and the blue Prometheans to the good?

> Well, according to Greg Bear, there are two Didacts. Perhaps red Prometheans belong to the ‘bad’ Diadact and the blue Prometheans to the good?

Silentium is probably going to go the firing of the array if not a little after that. Meaning just because there are two didact’s at the start and middle of the book doesn’t mean there will be two at the end. Just something to think about.

> > most forerunners believe the librarian is dead including the didact.
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> Which is why I don’t think the Didact’s motives as an Ancient Evil wouldn’t really be about the Librarian.
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But Primordium happens after halo 4 though.

> > Well, according to Greg Bear, there are two Didacts. Perhaps red Prometheans belong to the ‘bad’ Diadact and the blue Prometheans to the good?
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> Silentium is probably going to go the firing of the array if not a little after that. Meaning just because there are two didact’s at the start and middle of the book doesn’t mean there will be two at the end. Just something to think about.
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> But Primordium happens after halo 4 though.

Exactly.

Primordium could be around Halo 5 or (more likely) 6. At the end of 6 the Librarian shows up after Chakas found her. Who knows, maybe Halo 5/ beginning of 6 could be what happened after Primordium, the Chief wakes up on that ship, Chakas using him to find the Librarian. They realize the Librarian could be the only thing that can stop the Ancient Evil (assuming its the Didact).

The dates are key though as the monitor on kholo (which i see no reason why it isn’t chakas like some people try telling me) wasn’t found until 2559

Halo 5 or 6 could be a year or two after Halo 4.

The Human-Covenant War lasted almost 30 years.

Depending on what exactly the Ancient Evil is, it could take some time to get to the important moments the games would be made after.

Yeah but the games only lasted a few months so shifting years would be a rather dramatic change for us.

true true true.

> > most forerunners believe the librarian is dead including the didact.
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> Which is why I don’t think the Didact’s motives as an Ancient Evil wouldn’t really be about the Librarian.
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I could not agree with you more.

> Yeah but the games only lasted a few months so shifting years would be a rather dramatic change for us.
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> true true true.

There are always spinoffs…

Or an introductory scene explaining events, like what Halo 4 has to get new players up to speed.

While the overall design is similar between the two variations of the Knight, there are several significant differences. Almost as if there was an original creator, but at some point along the line a second creator came into play and made a different variation.

The blue knight has no evil looking qualities at all. No sharp slanting eyes, no teeth showing. I wonder if the blue variation has a skull hidden as well, or something else.

To respond to the OT on the Librarian, I do not think the Didact’s motives will have anything to do with her. The Didact believes she is dead. I also do not think the Librarian would have an army of Prometheans under her control either. That is the Didact’s territory of authority.

good question.

what if the blue ones are artic camo?

> > most forerunners believe the librarian is dead including the didact.
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> Blue: The ones able to resist control, helping the Humans stop the Ancient Evil.

That’s what I’m thinking. But Cortana also flashes red in that SDCC cutscene, so the Ancient Evil could have possibly gotten to her, to maybe speed up the rampancy process or perhaps try to control her amnd shes fighting it?

Maybe they are just different ranks?

But no-something that significant wouldn’t have a reason like that.

Someone suggested to me that the red ones are rampant and the blue ones are not (Because A.I. change colour when rampant). Or maybe the red ones are hostile and the blue ones are in some way “friendly”.

Perhaps Primordium is tied into it…

They do show the Blue ones fighting but they never show who they are fighting. The Orange ones are seen fighting the Chief as well as the Spartan IVs in Spartan Ops but we only have this one quick scene of the Blue ones but we don’t know where they are or who they are fighting.

I mean Spartan Ops was playable at E3, RTX and Comic Con. If they were enemies then wouldn’t people have been killing them during their playthrough?

> They do show the Blue ones fighting but they never show who they are fighting. The Orange ones are seen fighting the Chief as well as the Spartan IVs in Spartan Ops but we only have this one quick scene of the Blue ones but we don’t know where they are or who they are fighting.
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> I mean Spartan Ops was playable at E3, RTX and Comic Con. If they were enemies then wouldn’t people have been killing them during their playthrough?

The thing is while the orange ones are fighting the chief they clearly do not want to or have been ordered not to kill him. Which is why we shouldn’t be thinking of the orange ones as evil or anything like that.

Not really true because it could be important plot wise.

> Maybe they are just different ranks?
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> But no-something that significant wouldn’t have a reason like that.
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> Someone suggested to me that the red ones are rampant and the blue ones are not (Because A.I. change colour when rampant). Or maybe the red ones are hostile and the blue ones are in some way “friendly”.
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> Perhaps Primordium is tied into it…

I honestly feel like the are the same just that the orange ones are in some of state and once things get resolved they go back to normal. I really don’t like making hypotheses without out any type of information to go on, but there isn’t anything else we can do.