Opinions on Worst Hero Units

Games Halo Wars Series
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And how to make them better.

My top (or should I say bottom) 3 hero picks are:

  1. Cutter’s Jerome - spartan laser dps is crap. he’s great for his Y ability to combo with leader powers, but his laser need splash so it doesn’t take 5 shots to kill a marine squad

  2. Honor Guard - early game, he can’t catch up to Cutter, Kinsano, or Jerome marines. Pretty meh. The perma cloak late game and speed increase is great though. I recommend buffing the speed given by the T1 upgrade and a nerfing his T3 so that overall he’s still at his current speed after the final upgrade.

  3. Johnson - for a brick, he… isn’t very good. His Y ability need to be unkillable considering how much worse of a heal it is than Yap’s goblins or Arby’s CoR, and his smart missile will straight up miss if one of the members of a marine squad dies. Speed increase for this?

What are your opinions on what heroes in this game need help?

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While Jerome (Cutter’s) is the worst Spartan, he’s still a Spartan, and very strong because of that. Ever seen Banished try to kill a T2 Spartan? It’s hilarious. He could certainly use a buff to his damage output but he’s still very strong solely because he is a Spartan, and as you said, stun combos are deadly. Spartan Slam + Mine or Archer can be devastating.

I want to say the Honour Guard is bad, but he’s just so damn strong once been upgraded, plus he gets Vet. rather quickly. He can fight small armies, moves at the speed of sound, is suuuuuper annoying, and hits like a truck. Pretty solid hero, in my opinion.

As for Johnson, he’s pretty bad, yeah. His DPS is pretty solid, but it’s bascailly a weaker version of Alice. The heal drone is nice, but it’s easily destroyed, so meh.

I think Voridus takes the cake for worst hero unit, he’s, essentially, a Warlord without all the cool stuff (Siphon, Pull, Stun). His only purpose is to spread goo, and he’s not very good at that anymore. He’s awful in combat and is never really a threat.

After that, I think Atriox Chosen is also quite bad. I know a lot of people would disagree, but he’s such a glass cannon (emphasis on the glass). UNSC can just dance around the Chosen with Snipers and Hogs, while most Banished just have stronger heroes.

Another honourable mention is the Grunt Goblins. They are absolutely useless T1 and only become useful with their T2 upgrade. But once you get thier T3 upgrade, I think they’re among the best heroes in the game. Having 3 heals that offer that much healing is very, very strong.

TLDR; Jerome is good because he’s a Spartan, Honour Guard is slept on, Johnson is weak, Voridus is the worst, Chosen isn’t that great, and Grunt Goblins suck before all their upgrades.

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> TLDR; Jerome is good because he’s a Spartan, Honour Guard is slept on, Johnson is weak, Voridus is the worst, Chosen isn’t that great, and Grunt Goblins suck before all their upgrades.

I think shippy needs a buff to his early game speed and a nerf to late game so he’s still at his current speed late game but also quick enough to catch leader power enhanced units early at T1.

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Here’s my take.

  • I agree with Jerome. Laser needs a buff. - The honor guard is also kind of bad in the early game, but the late upgrades such as the indefinite cloak make him the perfect hero for scouting and you can teleport/extract him out if he runs into any sort of trouble. Maybe have the T2 upgrade increase his line of sight or allow him to detect cloaked units. - I love Voridus, but you have to heavily rely on his leader powers and abilities to make much of his stuff work. I’d love for him to have a Hammer Pull ability like the Warlord so that he can draw victims into his infusion pools. Using Cataclysm would be awesome. Another option is to pull allied units into them where they can be healed/buffed with the Frenzy. - I also wish that the Goblins would be able to have a little more health. For as bullet spongy as they are in Halo 5, they’re quite brittle here. I suppose it’s offset by the fact that you can have 3 deployed on the field at a time.Brav
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But my boy Johsnon got rangeeee

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But yeah I think this is about right, Jerome is definitely the worst hero when compared to everyone else

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> *And how to make them better.*My top (or should I say bottom) 3 hero picks are:
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> 1. Cutter’s Jerome - spartan laser dps is crap. he’s great for his Y ability to combo with leader powers, but his laser need splash so it doesn’t take 5 shots to kill a marine squad
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> 2. Honor Guard - early game, he can’t catch up to Cutter, Kinsano, or Jerome marines. Pretty meh. The perma cloak late game and speed increase is good.
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> 3. Johnson - for a brick, he… isn’t very good. His Y ability need to be unkillable considering how much worse of a heal it is than Yap’s goblins or Arby’s CoR, and his smart missile will straight up miss if one of the members of a marine squad dies. speed increase for this?
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> What are your opinions on what heroes in this game need help?

I agree with Cutter’s Jerome and Johnson but the honor guard is in my opinion one of the best leaders in this current meta. He’s not meant to be played like the other heros, think of him as snake eyes from metal gear solid. You don’t really want to engage other heroes until he has his perma cloak and is leveled up. In the beginning use him to take out minis and infantry when they’re capping your nodes and try to avoid direct battles but if you do come across one teleport out. With banished raid hes almost as fst as a ghost it’s nuts.

Now with that being said my top 3 worst leaders are
Voridus he got the Johnson way to hard I meant the nerf stick
Cutter Jerome see comments above
Johnson because we all know he sucks

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> I agree with Cutter’s Jerome and Johnson but the honor guard is in my opinion one of the best leaders in this current meta. He’s not meant to be played like the other heros, think of him as snake eyes from metal gear solid. You don’t really want to engage other heroes until he has his perma cloak and is leveled up. In the beginning use him to take out minis and infantry when they’re capping your nodes and try to avoid direct battles but if you do come across one teleport out. With banished raid hes almost as fst as a ghost it’s nuts.

Hate to break it to ya… but Banished raid only affects vehicles… not infantry.

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You hurt my soul when you said Atriox’s Chosen was terrible. Oh, man the future definitely needs to belong to Atriox after that one.

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> > I agree with Cutter’s Jerome and Johnson but the honor guard is in my opinion one of the best leaders in this current meta. He’s not meant to be played like the other heros, think of him as snake eyes from metal gear solid. You don’t really want to engage other heroes until he has his perma cloak and is leveled up. In the beginning use him to take out minis and infantry when they’re capping your nodes and try to avoid direct battles but if you do come across one teleport out. With banished raid hes almost as fst as a ghost it’s nuts.
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> Hate to break it to ya… but Banished raid only affects vehicles… not infantry.

LMAO you’re right meant to say the armory upgrade :frowning:

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I personally don’t like Kinsano, mostly because I hate how her Y ability locks her in place and cant move or follow targets

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> I personally don’t like Kinsano, mostly because I hate how her Y ability locks her in place and cant move or follow targets

I agree that late game that causes problems, but I rush with Kinsano and her hero and you won’t believe how many people just leave their infantry standing there as my Kinsano burns them to the ground with the “Y” ability. Even if they move you still do a ton of damage. But yeah, after early game she becomes semi-obsolete. She still has her uses as a fast hero but overall her usefulness drop after that 10 minute mark

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Um. Honor Guard is one of the best heroes in the game.

I wouldn’t say that any of the heroes are bad. Worst I think would go to Voridus, but he can still be very helpful.

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I think what we should take away from these comments is: All Hero units are good but some of them are better at being good than others

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> Um. Honor Guard is one of the best heroes in the game.
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> I wouldn’t say that any of the heroes are bad. Worst I think would go to Voridus, but he can still be very helpful.

Yeah? You think his speed at T1 is fine? Did you read my proposal at all?

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> > I wouldn’t say that any of the heroes are bad. Worst I think would go to Voridus, but he can still be very helpful.
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> Yeah? You think his speed at T1 is fine? Did you read my proposal at all?

I think for t3 he should be able to switch to a plasma rifle for his y ability but lose his active camp until he switch’s back to his sword so he can hit air units but do neutral damage to vehicles

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> > Um. Honor Guard is one of the best heroes in the game.
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> > I wouldn’t say that any of the heroes are bad. Worst I think would go to Voridus, but he can still be very helpful.
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> Yeah? You think his speed at T1 is fine? Did you read my proposal at all?

Yes, his T1 speed is fine. Quite good actually. Though it’s not as if he completely relies on it. If his cloak is used effectively, he can sneak up on other heroes and catch them while the other player is macroing or focusing somewhere else.

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Voridus war lord needs something bad, he’s trash
Suggestions drop more goo that damages more in a wider AOE

Kinsano I’m not sure what can be done to make her better, outside of a rush her hero unit seems useless but this is coming from someone that has hardly ever played her, she just seems very underwhelming.

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> You hurt my soul when you said Atriox’s Chosen was terrible. Oh, man the future definitely needs to belong to Atriox after that one.

Agreed, Chosen is still one of the top Heroes in my book.
The moment that man gets a Vet you’re going to struggle killing him.

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> > You hurt my soul when you said Atriox’s Chosen was terrible. Oh, man the future definitely needs to belong to Atriox after that one.
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> Agreed, Chosen is still one of the top Heroes in my book.
> The moment that man gets a Vet you’re going to struggle killing him.

Chosen plus Teleport equal mobile artillery.