KD and wins are not solely how the system analyzes performance. It takes into account who you are playing during your placement matches. If your consistently getting like a 2.5 KD but it’s against gold and platinum players, you’ll probably be placed in high platinum or low diamond (not onyx). If you’re getting a KD of around 1.0 against diamonds in your placement matches, you’ll probably get placed in diamond. KD is irrelevant without the consideration of your opponents skills.
The system is definitely flawed, but I think people are thinking its a bit more black and white than it really is. I think the problem is that the system analyzes your performance from your first game or two and then throws you against teams it believes to be of similar calibar. Which isn’t always correct.
I’m in onyx for FFA and diamond for SWAT, consider myself a pretty good player (at least in other halo games). I Seem to have pretty well made matches, but there are definitely players who are both far superior to me and insuperior to me. Maybe that’s just because at high levels the skill gap becomes more dramatic?
Also, does anyone know how large each division is? Seems like hardly anyone is in bronze or silver. I thought Onyx and even diamond were supposed to be really exclusive?
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> > Wait a second does it completely reset each month like will i go from gold to no rank or back to gold 1
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> Every rank for every mode will reset. 343 said something along the lines of it being a form of a self competition so you can try to get a higher rank next time.
Are you -Yoinking!- kidding me? I’ve been clawing and fighting to just ATTEMPT to get higher than GOld 5 (which is nearly impossible for me apparently!) but now this -Yoink- -Yoinking!- RESETS!?
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> Wait a second does it completely reset each month like will i go from gold to no rank or back to gold 1
I’m not sure if it will reset each month. I believe that is only for the “seasons” playlist when it arrives.
I may well be wrong but that how I understood it
The standard playlist ranks will remain I think. That is unless they decide to have a major rank reset due to player feedback or a major update.
Coild be wrong though
Individual performance has nothing to do with your rankings. It’s based off of wins alone. If you get 30 kills in swat and your teams sucks -Yoink-, your csr will go down. The team has to win for the csr to be affected. If you go on a hot streak with a savage team your rank will go up.
It’s a really bad system to judge an individual off of team performance but that’s how it goes. KD and KDA might have a slight effect on it but if you lose you will go down. And it takes roughly 5 wins to go back up after a loss. Or at least that’s what I’ve seen.
I started as platinum 1 in swat and am now platinum 5 after about a week of multiplayer. I can for sure say that kills do not directly effect csr. I range from a 2.5 to a .8 KD and even my -Yoink- matches if the team wins my csr will have green arrows pointing up on the csr in the carnage report after the match.
Hopefully that clears some things up.
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> I’m not going to settle down about it. It means I can’t play SWAT for a whole month or I’ll just get wrecked and any team I join will lose.
I don’t even know why people like swat. It’s like playing a mediocre version of call of duty. So ill remain unranked in that.
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> > No seriously, this is bad.
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> > Monthly resets and no deranking makes the ranking system pointless. What’s the point of “skill-based matchmaking” if the skill is reset and the good players stomp on the bad ones every month anyways? Or having to wait an entire month for a reset because the ranking system is far too generous and you’re matched against people you haven’t an icicles chance in hell of beating? Terrible, TERRIBLE idea.
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> > Halo 5: where the skill is made up and rankings have expiration dates.
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> have you ever heard of lol or smite?
Yes, I have. I know where this ranking system comes from and I know how it works. I played SC2 for 2 years and it has the same system.
The SC2 system wasn’t good overnight. It took time for it to adjust to the tremendous influx of players and assign rankings based on little previous data. As the system gets older it will have more data to draw from and make more accurate skill predictions with matchups and league placements.
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> I think that when you are in your placement matches, they should assign your rank based off of your personal performance but once you start playing ranked games in your division, you go up or down based on victorys and defeats. With the placements based on your skill, you have a higher chance of being placed in a division where the other players are around your skill level instead of getting into ridiculously high ranks because your team won for you. Than once your in that rank and you play games, you can continue with the normal win/loss system because now your actually facing opponents that should hopefully be around the same skill level as you.
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> Thank you for the laugh. SWAT is one of the most casual playlists that was developed for Halo. Shooting one time is not competitive at all, in my opinion.
Play against the top SWAT players and we’ll let you walk home with your tail between your legs.
Just because you as a slayer kid don’t think it’s competitive doesn’t mean you’re right.
Here’s the thing: if you get ranked that high, try and use it as a chance to get better. People at higher ranks really aren’t that great. A lot if it depends on your spawn point (which are usually complete -Yoink-) and your ability to react quickly. Learn the maps. Oh, and have fun too
I thought it was “select seasonal playlists” that would get reset, not every playlist every month? Someone will have to provide a source to this monthly reset.
But yeah, as pleased as I was to get Onyx in FFA, it’s made every match such an uphill battle. I know I shouldn’t win every game, but I’m feeling a bit outclassed these days. I’m decent at Halo but I don’t think I should necessarily be in this elite bracket of players.
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> Okay. I tried to give the game the benefit of the doubt. I was having fun and I defended the game against countless attacks. I started playing Swat today, one of my all time favorites from every Halo game that included it. I played 10 games. I won 6. I did TERRIBLE in each match. I’m talking 20 deaths 5 kills terrible.
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> ARE YOU Yoinking! ME? ONYX? THE HIGHEST RANK IN THE FREAKING GAME?!
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> I CAN’T #@$%#$%$ PLAY THIS GAME NOW BECAUSE I WON A FEW STUPID MATCHES AND NOW I’M BEING PUT AGAINST PEOPLE WHO PLAY LIKE FREAKING GOD AND I CAN’T HARDLY GET A SINGLE KILL BECAUSE THE SECOND I SPAWN I GET SHOT AND I CAN’T HIT ANYONE.
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> I SUCK AT THIS GAME. I will admit that. And it’s because of that that I have to ask. WHY DID I GET RANKED ONYX?!?!?!!??!
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> I literally cannot play the game. I have lost every solo game since I got ranked Onyx. Being completely destroyed. The best K/D ratio I got was 0.5
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> RESET MY FREAKING RATING AND FIX YOUR RATING SYSTEM. BASE IT OFF OF PERSONAL PERFORMANCE NOT WINS.
Same thing here. Maybe it’s because it has a smaller player population than something like Team Slayer.
343i broke a lot of things that were already working fine since Halo 3. I get that they want to put their stamp all over everything, but some of the decisions they’ve made make as much sense as Sonic the Hedgehog in Sonic Boom.
I don’t understand how so many people want ranked TEAM playlists to be based off personal stats?!?!?!?! your in a TEAM playlist!!! the WIN is what matters. FFA is the only playlist where your personal stats should matter IMO. I treat team playlists in Halo like sports. If I score 4 goals in a game and my team losses, I don’t deserve anything, my team lost. This said, I think things like MVP should be brought back, and there should be one on each team and in your stats it should say things like how many times you’ve been MVP and such.
I think what is messing up a lot of peoples ranks is the whole playing 10 games thing… maybe it should be lower…or changed or something. I think that is what is causing the issues for most people.
If your not doing well but your team keeps winning, then you must be doing something still… or if the other players really are always carrying you, then eventually you’ll keep losing and get put in the level you should be. Remember the first 10 games you get paired with anyone!! they could be good, or bad. Does the ranking system have some flaws? sure it does, but over all I think it’s not bad at all. They’ll tweak it and it’ll get better. Just settle down.
