Only mistake that 343 can do

Games Other Halo
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First of all, I am quite sure theres already topics about this subject, however I still feel I should do this topic and share my thoughts with this noble community.

As I said already in the topic, there is only one mistake that 343 can do this far. That’s making this game. That’s not keeping this game what it is, a game of Halo. All past Halo’s have had the feeling, the feeling that brings me back, day after day, game after game. I am not a good player by any means, however I dont play it purely for fun. I like improving, and that’s what I love. For a example, Call of Duty, you cant really improve yourself in it. Grab a gun and go sit in a corner and stay there until someone kills you. Then you repeat this and you make ‘‘profit.’’ But in Halo, you are not much of a good player when you play first time. You have to play, play, play and play to improve and actually make ‘‘profit’’. What would possibly ruin this feeling? What would ruin this all? If you ask me, perks. Armor abilities, perks and all that yoink. Halo 4 should bring the feeling that was in previous games, Halo 3, 2 and probably CE too. (Now I havent checked the backgrounds, I dont know are these perks etc. already been proved wrong.)

Dont know about you, noble member of the community, will you buy this game. I will, and I would buy this game already.

Thank you already for reading this.

Tl;dr Make this game a game of Halo, dont change it.

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I’m hitting the thank button repeatedly, but nothing’s happening >:(

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> I’m hitting the thank button repeatedly, but nothing’s happening >:(

Thank you, you kind Sir.

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Well I dunno about you… but I get a li’l feeling 343 will cater to everyone again by separating the community in game again like Halo 3 like it should… Competitive that plays for rank with no perks, AAs, or w/e else they add… and Social that has all that added in for people that play just to play. Separating the community again is something that needs to be done IMO.

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Dude, just wait till you play the game since you’re planning on buying this game.

I’m very sure this game won’t become CoD if that’s what you’re saying or refering to the changes. Honestly, I don’t know what Halo 4 will be like, but it still will have the skill based system unlike CoD. Okay, we have the shield with no health that takes time to kill, and we the chance to recover or counter attack because this game allows us to have the time to do so. We have the 100% hip fire accuracy that beats out any styles of shooters!

I have seen games try to copy some of CoD formula like Crysis 2 with advanced technologies. Honestly, Crysis multiplayer is a pain to play and not as tolerable for me as it is for CoD. Don’t worry, Halo already has something that won’t be replaced by any other games.

I know you’re making a point, but 343 already made the game as they polishing it right.

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> Well I dunno about you… but I get a li’l feeling 343 will cater to everyone again by separating the community in game again like Halo 3 like it should… Competitive that plays for rank with no perks, AAs, or w/e else they add… and Social that has all that added in for people that play just to play. Separating the community again is something that needs to be done IMO.

I actually like this idea.

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> Well I dunno about you… but I get a li’l feeling 343 will cater to everyone again by separating the community in game again like Halo 3 like it should… Competitive that plays for rank with no perks, AAs, or w/e else they add… and Social that has all that added in for people that play just to play. Separating the community again is something that needs to be done IMO.

Well I think that needs to be done, I dont actually see a way to bring these communities together without wrecking everything.

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So.

You think it’s better to cater multiplayer to this experience.

“Since I have played the game longer than you, I should do better than you.”

Why?

At what point does it seem logically reasonable to make a game with a higher learning curve?

Are you really that desperate to get a leg up on people who don’t know the map as well as you do?

Because that’s what most competitive complaints are about.
The fact that they are making the game easier for noobs.

WELL GUESS WHAT!?

When the noobs can keep up. That means better opponents for you to play against.

SO QUIT YOUR -Yoinking!- -Yoinking!-!

“I want Halo to be a game that you have to play, play and play some more to get anywhere…duhr.”

I’d rather have a game that I can pick up now and then and have fun passing the time with. Not something I have to make a life out of in order to enjoy it.

Tell you what, just for all the competitive players out there. 343i. I want you to completely turn off ALL aim magnetism, bullet magnetism etc. Just so we can all watch them -Yoink- and cry about how much Halo sucks when all the casual elements are taken out.

I’d hate to break it to you -Yoinking!- morons, but Halo has always been a casual game. And you people made it competitive. So this -Yoink- you all keep spewing about how that is impossible is just that…-Yoink-!

Why does it seem that all competitive is. Is the same thing as casual but all the cool -Yoink- has been removed?

If you were to go off of the competitive opinions of this forum

Casual Halo = Sprint, Jetpacks, etc. cool -Yoink-.
Competitive Halo = DMR SPAM, that’s all we do is DMR spam!

Competitive players can eat my -Yoink-.

No really, if you step back and observe.
It’s the competitive Half of this community that has slowely destroyed Halo.
But they won’t admit to it. They still insist on blaming casual players for everything that is wrong with Halo.

I will say it again for you morons.

All that is required for a game to be considered competitive.
Is 2 opposing teams, both with the desire to win.
NOTHING THEY ADD TO THE GAME CAN CHANGE THAT!

Even if they added full on auto-aim, I could still call this game competitive.
Because there is more to the game than just aiming.

But it just so happens that everything the competitive players are doing is to turn Halo into nothing more than an FPS about who has the better aim.
A brainless -Yoinking!- shooter. That’s what you want…isn’t it?

First person to quote this is a -Yoink-.

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Please stop comparing Halo to that piece of crap, just because some random person mentioned the word ‘perks’, everybody is freaking out… Just no, of course it will never be like that…

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Why yes, but the-game-what-I-mentioned it just so good game to compare to, because its easy and no-thought required game.

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> So.
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> You think it’s better to cater multiplayer to this experience.
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> “Since I have played the game longer than you, I should do better than you.”
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> Why?
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> At what point does it seem logically reasonable to make a game with a higher learning curve?
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> Are you really that desperate to get a leg up on people who don’t know the map as well as you do?
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> Because that’s what most competitive complaints are about.
> The fact that they are making the game easier for noobs.
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> WELL GUESS WHAT!?
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> When the noobs can keep up. That means better opponents for you to play against.
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> SO QUIT YOUR -Yoinking!- -Yoinking!-!
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> “I want Halo to be a game that you have to play, play and play some more to get anywhere…duhr.”
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> I’d rather have a game that I can pick up now and then and have fun passing the time with. Not something I have to make a life out of in order to enjoy it.
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> Tell you what, just for all the competitive players out there. 343i. I want you to completely turn off ALL aim magnetism, bullet magnetism etc. Just so we can all watch them -Yoink!- and cry about how much Halo sucks when all the casual elements are taken out.
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> I’d hate to break it to you -Yoinking!- morons, but Halo has always been a casual game. And you people made it competitive. So this -Yoink!- you all keep spewing about how that is impossible is just that…-Yoink!-!
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> Why does it seem that all competitive is. Is the same thing as casual but all the cool Yoink! has been removed?
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> If you were to go off of the competitive opinions of this forum
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> Casual Halo = Sprint, Jetpacks, etc. cool Yoink!.
> Competitive Halo = DMR SPAM, that’s all we do is DMR spam!
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> Competitive players can eat my Yoink!.
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> No really, if you step back and observe.
> It’s the competitive Half of this community that has slowely destroyed Halo.
> But they won’t admit to it. They still insist on blaming casual players for everything that is wrong with Halo.
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> I will say it again for you morons.
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> All that is required for a game to be considered competitive.
> Is 2 opposing teams, both with the desire to win.
> NOTHING THEY ADD TO THE GAME CAN CHANGE THAT!
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> Even if they added full on auto-aim, I could still call this game competitive.
> Because there is more to the game than just aiming.
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> But it just so happens that everything the competitive players are doing is to turn Halo into nothing more than an FPS about who has the better aim.
> A brainless -Yoinking!- shooter. That’s what you want…isn’t it?
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> First person to quote this is a -Yoink!-.

Now that was just unnecessary swearing and ‘‘flaming’’. So what you’re saying is that 343 should forget the old halo fans, the competitive players etc. and just make this game for new players? That’s just… that’s just stupid, we are the fans, the community who make this game what it is today. Not some call of duty type camping and absolutely no skill game.

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CoD Requires more skill than Halo.

You people actually think Halo takes more skill.

Quicker kills times… Require better aim, faster reflexs, better map control, etc.

All the things that the competitive players -Yoink- and whine about Halo, are actually the main deciding factors for who’s succesful at CoD.

This is why the competitive community of Halo…is just limited.

IF I was to put a picture to words of what I think of the competitive community…

This would be it

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> CoD Requires more skill than Halo.
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> You people actually think Halo takes more skill.
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> That makes ALL OF YOU people!
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> Quicker kills times = Require better aim, faster reflexs, better map control, etc.
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> All the things that the competitive players -Yoink!- and whine about Halo, are actually the main deciding factors for who’s succesful at CoD.
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> This is why the competitive community of Halo…is just limited.
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> IF I was to put a picture to words of what I think of the competitive community…
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> This would be it

Haha, yeah, funny dude. It’s not an opinion that Halo takes more skill, it’s a fact.

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Really, because you say it’s fact?

Halo = Recharging shields = Casual
Halo = Massive Aim Magnetism = Casual
Halo = Overshields = Casual
Halo = Invisibility = Casual
Halo = Rockets = Casual
Halo = Vehicles = Casual
Halo = Longer kills times = Casual
Halo = Footrace for powerweapons/vehicles = Casual
Halo = No join in progress = Competitive
Halo = Quit ban = Comeptitive
Halo = -Yoink!- playlists that randomize the experience even if you don’t want it random = Competitive.

Why you ask? because if I win the footrace. I don’t have to try as hard anymore.
You do.’
With longer kill times, my aim vs your aim becomes less of a factor as opposed to hoping a teammate comes in to back you up.

CoD = Loadouts = Not even a factor
Cod = Camping = Also not even a factor (since camping happens in BOTH GAMES)
CoD = Faster kill times = Competitive.
CoD = Join-in-progress = Casual
CoD = Killstreaks = Competitive
etc.
etc.

Looking at that list of things…

It amazes me that the ONLY things that even makes Halo “Competitive”… ARE THE WORST PARTS OF IT! And all the best parts of it, are what make it casual.

If you’re going to claim your opinion is backed up by facts… Then show some facts.
Tell me one thing that makes Halo more competitive than CoD? And I’ll most likely make you eat those words when I give you the real truth.

Basicly, because Halo is so teamwork oriented, it’s actually more casual than CoD.
Because individual skill is less of a factor.
Yet at the same time, it’s also more competitive because of the teamwork aspect of it.
Teamwork = Good for both Casuals and Competitives.

Yet, all I ever hear from the comeptitive half of this community is -Yoinking!- and whining about every little thing that emphasis teamwork over individual skill.

Bloom empahsized teamwork over individual skill. What happened? You cried.
Sprint empahsizes teamwork over individual skill. What did you do? YOU CRIED.

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You’re done editing or what? You know, I really don’t even care what you believe and you won’t change your mind anyway, so it’s useless to even start an argument. I read this forum to see and discuss stuff about Halo 4, I don’t want to see or talk about anything else. I don’t even understand why you would bring up CoD in here anyway.

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> CoD Requires more skill than Halo.
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> You people actually think Halo takes more skill.
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> Quicker kills times… Require better aim, faster reflexs, better map control, etc.
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> All the things that the competitive players -Yoink!- and whine about Halo, are actually the main deciding factors for who’s succesful at CoD.
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> This is why the competitive community of Halo…is just limited.
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> IF I was to put a picture to words of what I think of the competitive community…
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> This would be it

Now this is just moving too away from the subject, but I still will answer to this.

Yeah, take noob tube and then look straight up, and shoot in the air. So… much… skill.

Require better aim? Yeah, everybody just dropshot.
There is no such a thing as map control in Call of Duty, just someone takes UMP and captures the flags.

I hope you wont answer to this because this is Halo 4 forum, not a Call of Duty defence forum.

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> You’re done editing or what? You know, I really don’t even care what you believe and you won’t change your mind anyway, so it’s useless to even start an argument. I read this forum to see and discuss stuff about Halo 4, I don’t want to see or talk about anything else. I don’t even understand why you would bring up CoD in here anyway.

Well I guess its my fold because I mentioned it earlier in the main post, but I really didnt except some kid would come here to defence CoD.

End of CoD discussion, please.

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I’d like to do an hypothetical experiment with Halo.

Make it so that in order to kill a person. YOU ABSOLUTELY must have 2 or more people shoot at them.

If only one person does damage to a target it will not die.

How many of you would -Yoink- about that? Why though?
It’s just a rule of the game to emphasize and encourage teamwork.

You have something against teamwork?

Now tell me, if this rule was in effect. Would you say that it is a competitive rule, or a casual rule?

If a game emphasized teamwork over individual skill, does that make it casual?

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I cant stop laughing at how dumb the kid is that said cod takes more skill. Seriously you are trolling right?

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I can’t stop laughing at the people who say Halo takes more skill but don’t even have anything of worth to back up that statement.

Give some -Yoinking!- examples!

Halo = Longer kill times = Casual
Cod = Quicker kill times = Competitive

Longer kill times = Can make mistakes
Quicker kill times = Mistakes get you killed