Do you consider ONI to be good guys or bad?
Bad is the only acceptable answer.
Evil.
I consider them to be ridiculously incompetent and dangerously bad for humanity and the galaxy.
Bad.
A criminally underrated force for good. Without their influence, humanity would be extinct, and the various species of the Covenant still bound under a despotic theocracy, assuming they hadn’t yet activated the Array and wiped the galaxy of sapience.
Good guys. But I’m considering good or bad as my personal preference only, I mean, I support them. There is no totally “good” faction in halo, we are just incline to support UEG and UNSC, they do protect humanity, but they aren’t a philanthropic/xenophile organization. However they are still morally “good” if compared to the covenant. So it’s difficult to give an absolute answer in terms of “good and bad”.
CINCONI is still quite bad and evil, but ONI is much more. Their purpose is positive: to protect the human race. And they follow this at any cost, putting away any moral concern, and this is what makes them effective. Humanity (in halo) needs people like this, but they don’t pretend to be considered “good guys”.
They’re like Cerberus from Mass Effect. Pro human and willing to do anything to achieve their goals. This kind of thinking may be effective and help us to survive but in my opinion it costs too much. Corruption replaces real democracy and people will loose their freedom.
I don’t know.
It depends if you think the “end justifies the means”.
Bad because they were the people that led to the creation of the Spartan program
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> I consider them to be ridiculously incompetent and dangerously bad for humanity and the galaxy.
We think alike, their belief of keeping everything a secret from humanity will save them. Well, I think that’s going to be our doom.
I prefer the term “Morally Gray”
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> Good guys. But I’m considering good or bad as my personal preference only, I mean, I support them. There is no totally “good” faction in halo, we are just incline to support UEG and UNSC, they do protect humanity, but they aren’t a philanthropic/xenophile organization. However they are still morally “good” if compared to the covenant. So it’s difficult to give an absolute answer in terms of “good and bad”.
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> CINCONI is still quite bad and evil, but ONI is much more. Their purpose is positive: to protect the human race. And they follow this at any cost, putting away any moral concern, and this is what makes them effective. Humanity (in halo) needs people like this, but they don’t pretend to be considered “good guys”.
ONI just has the misfortune to have really bad and evil bosses.
I suddenly feel pity for Locke for some reason.
Gray. I’m fine with that, besides there’s good and bad in everything when humans are involved. Again, I’m fine with it. As long as it’s not an absolute evil/good.
ONI
=Oni
=A Japanese Demon
Gentlemen, we can thus deduce ONI is evil.
I once considered them a decently done shadowy ‘for the greater good’ organisation, but when Travissty got her claws into Kilo-5, everything went downhill and they turned into hilariously incompetent fools, which is a shame.
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> I once considered them a decently done shadowy ‘for the greater good’ organisation, but when Travissty got her claws into Kilo-5, everything went downhill and they turned into hilariously incompetent fools, which is a shame.
That’s what I’m saying and hunt the truth is going in this same direction. However, the new book excerpt seems nice, it remembers us all how ONI is also high level scientific research.
For all they do, they have humanity’s interests at heart. Their job is to further our agendas at the expense of hostile aliens.
They funded the Spartan 2 and 3 projects…which saved humanity. They can’t be all bad. Its just their methods that are questionable.
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> For all they do, they have humanity’s interests at heart. Their job is to further our agendas at the expense of hostile aliens.
Which is why they gave 'Telcam, a Sangheili that straight up says he’s opposed to the Arbiter advanced weaponry in order to prolong the conflict between the Swords of Sanghelios and other warring factions. Thel and the Swords of Sanghelios aren’t hostile aliens - they’re working with humanity in order to eliminate the last remains of the Covenant once and for all and trying to recuperate after the massive devastation they suffered during the Great Schism. They’re screwing over the one alien faction that is not only non-hostile, but actually helping them (albeit in small amounts, they have enough internal stuff to worry about), I mean god -Yoink!-, they’re screwing over the sole reason humanity survived the Human-Covenant War. Without Thel and the SoS, life in the Milky Way wouldn’t exist any more. Everyone would have died during the events of Delta Halo if it weren’t for Thel and the Sangheili that followed him.
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> > For all they do, they have humanity’s interests at heart. Their job is to further our agendas at the expense of hostile aliens.
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> Which is why they gave 'Telcam, a Sangheili that straight up says he’s opposed to the Arbiter advanced weaponry in order to prolong the conflict between the Swords of Sanghelios and other warring factions. Thel and the Swords of Sanghelios aren’t hostile aliens - they’re working with humanity in order to eliminate the last remains of the Covenant once and for all and trying to recuperate after the massive devastation they suffered during the Great Schism. They’re screwing over the one alien faction that is not only non-hostile, but actually helping them (albeit in small amounts, they have enough internal stuff to worry about), I mean god -Yoink!-, they’re screwing over the sole reason humanity survived the Human-Covenant War. Without Thel and the SoS, life in the Milky Way wouldn’t exist any more. Everyone would have died during the events of Delta Halo if it weren’t for Thel and the Sangheili that followed him.
And without ONI (Section Three, Halsey, the spartans) humanity wouldn’t have survived too, so your discourse makes no sense. The Arbiter glassed multiple colonies, he has no merit for saving anything except his own butt, which casually coincided with helping chief avoiding halo’s activation by the faction he was a former member of.
While I do not support CINCONI, and believe kilo-v was all a huge mistake, the idea of kicking the enemy when it’s down is not so bad. UNSC needs to be the most powerful faction in this disorganised post war period, and keeping the elites entertained in killing each others doesn’t sound so bad. We need time to reunite colonies, then we can procede, from a more powerful position, on making alliances with the aliens who glassed all the other colonies.