Im very curious to what you guys think…does ONI already know who this new threat is and is now creating Spartan IV’s to stop it? Do they know what they are up against and have been keeping it a secret from humanity? Just want to know what you guys think because I’m pretty sure of Oni is already on Requiem or had visited Shield Worlds, they have to have seen some old history of ancient enemy’s that the Forerunners fought.
I think ONI is too busy being irrationally evil at this point to notice the new enemy. As for ONI already being on Requiem, I don’t think that is the case. If they were, Chief would’ve been rescued as he drifted into the star system.
Well there’s gotta at least be UNSC forces on Requiem because the concept arts shows pelicans flying around so maybe they haven’t figured out how to detect stiff outside the shield world?
> Well there’s gotta at least be UNSC forces on Requiem because the concept arts shows pelicans flying around so maybe they haven’t figured out how to detect stiff outside the shield world?
Not really. The UNSC infinity catches up with the chief “relatively early” according to Frankie.
> Well there’s gotta at least be UNSC forces on Requiem because the concept arts shows pelicans flying around so maybe they haven’t figured out how to detect stiff outside the shield world?
As Wazooty said, what’s saying they don’t come AFTER Chief? Chief was sent there by Mendicant Bias because of a Forerunner presence on that Shield World. If the UNSC were already there…why no Forerunner contact?
You know what that makes sense. I totally didn’t think about that. Man Chief all alone on this new world. Do you think the new enemy is already there?
> You know what that makes sense. I totally didn’t think about that. Man Chief all alone on this new world. Do you think the new enemy is already there?
Don’t see why not. The Covenant are only going to be around for a brief time to transition players form the old Halo to 343’s new Halo.
> > You know what that makes sense. I totally didn’t think about that. Man Chief all alone on this new world. Do you think the new enemy is already there?
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> Don’t see why not. The Covenant are only going to be around for a brief time to transition players form the old Halo to 343’s new Halo.
That is something to truly think about. ^
Cobra: I’m curious to know who you think the enemy is? I read some of your post on other topics and it seems that you don’t believe it’s the Forerunners but if this is a Forerunner Shield World how did they conquer it?
These are all questions that we wonder ourselves. If the enemy is not forerunners, then what are they doing on a forerunner shield world? Why are they localized to only the shield world?
I think the covenant are going to be around a bit longer than we think. I recall someone pointed out that one of the pieces of concept art from inside requiem had a few banshees flying around.
> Cobra: I’m curious to know who you think the enemy is? I read some of your post on other topics and it seems that you don’t believe it’s the Forerunners but if this is a Forerunner Shield World how did they conquer it?
Still going with Precursors, but not Precursor’s DIRECTLY. They are more than capable of creating a race of beings to spread out and conquer territory. <mark>At that point they would send in the Flood they are maturing</mark> and the race they previously made could be sacrificed. This gives them territory AND an instant Flood army. At least, that is how I myself would go if I were in charge of Halo lore.
Highlighted part is something taken from the novel Halo: Primordium.
> These are all questions that we wonder ourselves. If the enemy is not forerunners, then what are they doing on a forerunner shield world? Why are they localized to only the shield world?
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> I think the covenant are going to be around a bit longer than we think. <mark>I recall someone pointed out that one of the pieces of concept art from inside requiem had a few banshees flying around.</mark>
Ah, but WHO is truly flying them?
> > These are all questions that we wonder ourselves. If the enemy is not forerunners, then what are they doing on a forerunner shield world? Why are they localized to only the shield world?
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> > I think the covenant are going to be around a bit longer than we think. <mark>I recall someone pointed out that one of the pieces of concept art from inside requiem had a few banshees flying around.</mark>
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> Ah, but WHO is truly flying them?
I don’t know, there are at least two or three CCS-Class ships being pulled into Requiem according to the Cover Art, not to mention Jackals in Concept Art standing around a Forerunner structure. I would bet we see the Covenant appear throughout the game, not just at the beginning.
I just wonder how the Elites will act when they come face to face with their Gods?
> I don’t know, there are at least two or three CCS-Class ships being pulled into Requiem according to the Cover Art, not to mention Jackals in Concept Art standing around a Forerunner structure. I would bet we see the Covenant appear throughout the game, not just at the beginning.
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> <mark>I just wonder how the Elites will act when they come face to face with their Gods?</mark>
Well if being confronted with the notion that full-scale genocide isn’t wrong…who knows.
> > I don’t know, there are at least two or three CCS-Class ships being pulled into Requiem according to the Cover Art, not to mention Jackals in Concept Art standing around a Forerunner structure. I would bet we see the Covenant appear throughout the game, not just at the beginning.
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> > <mark>I just wonder how the Elites will act when they come face to face with their Gods?</mark>
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> Well if being confronted with the notion that full-scale genocide isn’t wrong…who knows.
I don’t believe the Forerunner are the “Ancient Evil” however I do believe we’re going to be fighting them at the beginning, for some reason, anyways. If the Elites encounter their gods and their first action is to fight the Humans they’ll probably be like “Hey alright we weren’t in the wrong after all!” Then again I wonder what the Forerunner’s reaction to the Elites will be?
> I don’t believe the Forerunner are the “Ancient Evil” however I do believe we’re going to be fighting them at the beginning, for some reason, anyways. If the Elites encounter their gods and their first action is to fight the Humans they’ll probably be like “Hey alright we weren’t in the wrong after all!” Then again I wonder what the Forerunner’s reaction to the Elites will be?
I honestly can’t see the Chief lasting in a fight against Forerunner warriors. Better training, better weapons, better armor, I just don’t see it. Not only that, but what purpose does it serve? As for the Elite reaction, they’ll probably act like Spark did in the hidden CEA terminal when he met the Heretics.
> > I don’t believe the Forerunner are the “Ancient Evil” however I do believe we’re going to be fighting them at the beginning, for some reason, anyways. If the Elites encounter their gods and their first action is to fight the Humans they’ll probably be like “Hey alright we weren’t in the wrong after all!” Then again I wonder what the Forerunner’s reaction to the Elites will be?
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> I honestly can’t see the Chief lasting in a fight against Forerunner warriors. Better training, better weapons, better armor, I just don’t see it. Not only that, but what purpose does it serve? As for the Elite reaction, they’ll probably act like Spark did in the hidden CEA terminal when he met the Heretics.
What if the Forerunner aren’t awake, sleeping in Cryptums and they’re being attacked by Requiem’s defenses? This happened with Onyx, the Sentinels attacked at the same time they were still allowed into the Shield. The Spirit of Fire crew was attacked by Sentinels as well even though they were also pulled in unvoluntarily.
The only problem with the Cryptum theory is that its been said we’re seeing Forerunner structures that have been lived in, as apposed to older structures from the other games which have been abandoned.
> What if the Forerunner aren’t awake, sleeping in Cryptums and they’re being attacked by Requiem’s defenses? This happened with Onyx, the Sentinels attacked at the same time they were still allowed into the Shield. The Spirit of Fire crew was attacked by Sentinels as well even though they were also pulled in unvoluntarily.
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> The only problem with the Cryptum theory is that its been said we’re seeing Forerunner structures that have been lived in, as apposed to older structures from the other games which have been abandoned.
If that’s the case, why would the Forerunners attack Chief for? Seems like they have bigger issues if their own weapons are turned against them.
> > What if the Forerunner aren’t awake, sleeping in Cryptums and they’re being attacked by Requiem’s defenses? This happened with Onyx, the Sentinels attacked at the same time they were still allowed into the Shield. The Spirit of Fire crew was attacked by Sentinels as well even though they were also pulled in unvoluntarily.
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> > The only problem with the Cryptum theory is that its been said we’re seeing Forerunner structures that have been lived in, as apposed to older structures from the other games which have been abandoned.
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> If that’s the case, why would the Forerunners attack Chief for? Seems like they have bigger issues if their own weapons are turned against them.
Well, I meant if they were in Cryptums then the defenses would simply be protecting them. This might not be the case if they’re not actually asleep which naturally puts a cramp in that theory. I just don’t see how the Forerunner can be an enemy in Halo 4, but I do have the feeling that they will be at least in the beginning.
This quote from Greg Bear is interesting however…
“We’re working on those connections. For now, let’s just say there are two Didacts…”
I have no idea what he means by that but if there are two Didacts for some strange reason then perhaps that explains why he’s an enemy. Brevet Mutation gone wrong? Confused sole who remembers humans as the enemy? Maybe he’s not being literal and means something else entirely? I don’t know.
> “We’re working on those connections. For now, let’s just say there are two Didacts…”
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> I have no idea what he means by that but if there are two Didacts for some strange reason then perhaps that explains why he’s an enemy. Brevet Mutation gone wrong? Confused sole who remembers humans as the enemy? Maybe he’s not being literal and means something else entirely? I don’t know.
Well that’s just weird. I’ve put up with a lot of curveballs thrown in the forerunner saga, but I really hope he doesn’t mean something like there’s a literal clone of the didact or something. Sigh…
I suppose he could mean that the original, pre bornstellar didact never was actually executed. They find him, tortured and weak and he eventually becomes the memory that gets implanted into Johns blood line? Ramble ramble.
I dunno…