Although still keep it linked to the Forge, here’s how it could work:
instead of getting maps into matchmaking, have the player get a combined total of Like, Bookmarks, and played games on a map, this way Forgers still get recognized for all their hard work, but the helmet isn’t so exlusive that only 7 players will have it outside of 343 themselves. I think if 343 are gonna work on the timmy unlock requirements like they are, the least they could do is fix Olive up a little. And again my idea requires the player to have at least 1 map with a certain amount of likes, bookmarks, and played games to unlock the helmet, that way people who make a good map get rewarded for it by the community as well as 343.
I was going to slam your comment with hate but after reading it i agree with you.
Or you can work hard to get your map into matchmaking. Like the rest of us did, this helmet isn’t supposed to just be handed out to everyone. Getting your map into matchmaking really isn’t that hard as long as you put the effort into making it, testing it and messaging the current forgers of the community. Everyone is super friendly trust me. And if your maps are never going to be Matchmaking quality then i don’t see why you should deserve the helmet? its an achievement and honestly its the Recon helmet of halo today.
Sure Recon was handed out to all players after a while in H:3 but thats why you got the timmy helmet, play/host enough custom games and then you will unlock that helmet. Its literally what you asked for. And if you say “well no timmy isn’t special like the olive helmet” thats exactly what would happen to the olive helmet if any random person could unlock it too.
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> Or you can work hard to get your map into matchmaking. Like the rest of us did, this helmet isn’t supposed to just be handed out to everyone. Getting your map into matchmaking really isn’t that hard as long as you put the effort into making it, testing it and messaging the current forgers of the community. Everyone is super friendly trust me. And if your maps are never going to be Matchmaking quality then i don’t see why you should deserve the helmet? its an achievement and honestly its the Recon helmet of halo today.
>
> Sure Recon was handed out to all players after a while in H:3 but thats why you got the timmy helmet, play/host enough custom games and then you will unlock that helmet. Its literally what you asked for. And if you say “well no timmy isn’t special like the olive helmet” thats exactly what would happen to the olive helmet if any random person could unlock it too.
Again, we need an alternative method, Recon had many methods to unlock, vidmasters, impress bungie, asking bungie REALLY nicely, I don’t see why Olive should be ecluded from less known Forgers who put a lot of effort into their maps. Let’s face the excuse “put hard work into your to get it into matchmaking” is a load of BS as 343 only implements maps that seem to only come from popular Halo youtubers, there needs to be a way for the little people to get it too. 343 also said before Halo 5 launched that ALL armor would be available to ALL players without needing to spend money, we’ve already seen instances where this was proven a lie, but the point is that there should be alternatives to these “special armors” y’know what makes 'em special? The fact that they weren’t unlocked through sheer dumb luck.
Now onto my last point. I never said it should be handed out to EVERYONE, no, that shows you skimmed my post, not read it. I said that if a map is good enough to warrant a combined total of likes, bookmarks, and games played on that map would it unlock the helmet. Let’s put some hypothetical #rs to that:
likes: 117
bookmarks: 343 (these’d be hard to get)
now for games played, let’s make it a little more unique
games played: could happen anywhere between 500 to 900 games played
This way if a map really was popular enough with the community but still didn’t get into matchmaking the creator of said map could still get the helmet. It’s all a matter of perspective really.
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> Or you can work hard to get your map into matchmaking. Like the rest of us did, this helmet isn’t supposed to just be handed out to everyone. Getting your map into matchmaking really isn’t that hard as long as you put the effort into making it, testing it and messaging the current forgers of the community. Everyone is super friendly trust me. And if your maps are never going to be Matchmaking quality then i don’t see why you should deserve the helmet? its an achievement and honestly its the Recon helmet of halo today.
>
> Sure Recon was handed out to all players after a while in H:3 but thats why you got the timmy helmet, play/host enough custom games and then you will unlock that helmet. Its literally what you asked for. And if you say “well no timmy isn’t special like the olive helmet” thats exactly what would happen to the olive helmet if any random person could unlock it too.
I don’t forge and won’t ever get the helmet and that’s ok. I’m just throwing my opinion in anyway. I think it’s practically impossible for more than a handful of people to ever get the helmet. 343 doesn’t rotate maps in very often ,and given the lifespan of the game (both population and support) it seems like it’s going to be very tough to get a map into matchmaking. It almost seems pointless to hype a helmet that maybe 1/4 of 1 percent of all players will ever get. Like I said I don’t forge, and I think it’s cool that forgers get something unique, but they should open it up a bit more. Lots of talented forgers, and there are a lot, will miss out.
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> > 2533274884969133;3:
> > Or you can work hard to get your map into matchmaking. Like the rest of us did, this helmet isn’t supposed to just be handed out to everyone. Getting your map into matchmaking really isn’t that hard as long as you put the effort into making it, testing it and messaging the current forgers of the community. Everyone is super friendly trust me. And if your maps are never going to be Matchmaking quality then i don’t see why you should deserve the helmet? its an achievement and honestly its the Recon helmet of halo today.
> >
> > Sure Recon was handed out to all players after a while in H:3 but thats why you got the timmy helmet, play/host enough custom games and then you will unlock that helmet. Its literally what you asked for. And if you say “well no timmy isn’t special like the olive helmet” thats exactly what would happen to the olive helmet if any random person could unlock it too.
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> I don’t forge and won’t ever get the helmet and that’s ok. I’m just throwing my opinion in anyway. I think it’s practically impossible for more than a handful of people to ever get the helmet. 343 doesn’t rotate maps in very often ,and given the lifespan of the game (both population and support) it seems like it’s going to be very tough to get a map into matchmaking. It almost seems pointless to hype a helmet that maybe 1/4 of 1 percent of all players will ever get. Like I said I don’t forge, and I think it’s cool that forgers get something unique, but they should open it up a bit more. Lots of talented forgers, and there are a lot, will miss out.
My point exactly. I have done so many maps that I’ve gotten messages about like “Wow great remake!” or “Interesting infection map” but I’ve submitted maps to 343 before and never get any replies with even a yes or no to my maps, so I figured if they’re gonna rework the timmy helmet, like they are currently doing, they could add a few requirements that make the Olive Helmet a little less unobtainable as the current method isn’t about hard work or dedication, it’s about connections to 343 and being a big youtuber, which isn’t fair to those of us who actually put work into forge maps for fun and not for showcasing.
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> Or you can work hard to get your map into matchmaking. Like the rest of us did, this helmet isn’t supposed to just be handed out to everyone. Getting your map into matchmaking really isn’t that hard as long as you put the effort into making it, testing it and messaging the current forgers of the community. Everyone is super friendly trust me. And if your maps are never going to be Matchmaking quality then i don’t see why you should deserve the helmet? its an achievement and honestly its the Recon helmet of halo today.
>
> Sure Recon was handed out to all players after a while in H:3 but thats why you got the timmy helmet, play/host enough custom games and then you will unlock that helmet. Its literally what you asked for. And if you say “well no timmy isn’t special like the olive helmet” thats exactly what would happen to the olive helmet if any random person could unlock it too.
Have you seen maps and games like octagon or castles in multiplayer. I don’t do much custom gaming but I see those all the time. Not every deserving map will get into multiplayer so restricting Olive to multiplayer is probably easier for 343 but not at all fair.
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> Again, we need an alternative method,
No. You want an altnernative method. The requiremenets for it are fine.
Firstly I didn’t skim read your post, I even said that the exact helmet you are looking for is the ‘Timmy helmet’. If you don’t like it then bad luck bud. The olive helmet should stay as it is. And no its not ONLY the youtubers that get maps in matchmaking, thats ridiculous. For example look at me? I don’t run a youtube channel and had a map in, its not that hard like really you actually need to try before you complain. Literally anybody can get it, half my friends have the helmet and most don’t even have youtube channels. To me it sounds like you want to get a reward without putting in all the effort. Do you know how long it takes to build a map that gets into matchmaking? come on take a guess… 1 week? 2 weeks? maybe 3?
It takes anywhere between 1-2 months minimumSure its not all just Build time, a lot of it is play testing… hours and hours if not days of play testing. But my point is that you should actually put in the effort to get your map out there, if you dont go on forgehub/halo customs/The 343 map submission forums and post your map then guess what? its never going to get selected let alone featured by the community youtubers. You act like its hard to get your map featured or set up testing lobbies. A simple email to one of the cartographers is ALL it takes to get the ball rolling, they are plenty happy to help you develop the map and set up play testing lobbies for it.
The Olive helmet requirements should stay as it is, But rather we need more exclusive armour and emblems for events like the one you described. I would love an exclusive helmet for hitting max rank, or maybe even an emblem for having my map bookmarked 500 times. This sounds great, its just not what the Olive helmet was designed for though.
-Peace out
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> Firstly I didn’t skim read your post, I even said that the exact helmet you are looking for is the ‘Timmy helmet’. If you don’t like it then bad luck bud. The olive helmet should stay as it is. And no its not ONLY the youtubers that get maps in matchmaking, thats ridiculous. For example look at me? I don’t run a youtube channel and had a map in, its not that hard like really you actually need to try before you complain. Literally anybody can get it, half my friends have the helmet and most don’t even have youtube channels. To me it sounds like you want to get a reward without putting in all the effort. Do you know how long it takes to build a map that gets into matchmaking? come on take a guess… 1 week? 2 weeks? maybe 3?
>
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> It takes anywhere between 1-2 months minimumSure its not all just Build time, a lot of it is play testing… hours and hours if not days of play testing. But my point is that you should actually put in the effort to get your map out there, if you dont go on forgehub/halo customs/The 343 map submission forums and post your map then guess what? its never going to get selected let alone featured by the community youtubers. You act like its hard to get your map featured or set up testing lobbies. A simple email to one of the cartographers is ALL it takes to get the ball rolling, they are plenty happy to help you develop the map and set up play testing lobbies for it.
>
> The Olive helmet requirements should stay as it is, But rather we need more exclusive armour and emblems for events like the one you described. I would love an exclusive helmet for hitting max rank, or maybe even an emblem for having my map bookmarked 500 times. This sounds great, its just not what the Olive helmet was designed for though.
> -Peace out
Alright then, can you help me out? Just like y’know point me in the right direction? Would contacting Forge Labs be a good place to start?
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> Although still keep it linked to the Forge, here’s how it could work:
>
> instead of getting maps into matchmaking, have the player get a combined total of Like, Bookmarks, and played games on a map, this way Forgers still get recognized for all their hard work, but the helmet isn’t so exlusive that only 7 players will have it outside of 343 themselves. I think if 343 are gonna work on the timmy unlock requirements like they are, the least they could do is fix Olive up a little. And again my idea requires the player to have at least 1 map with a certain amount of likes, bookmarks, and played games to unlock the helmet, that way people who make a good map get rewarded for it by the community as well as 343.
Idk, it’s one of the few armour pieces in the game that you really have to earn so I think if anyone were to get it would make it really special especially considering how difficult it is to get.
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> > 2533274884969133;9:
> > Firstly I didn’t skim read your post, I even said that the exact helmet you are looking for is the ‘Timmy helmet’. If you don’t like it then bad luck bud. The olive helmet should stay as it is. And no its not ONLY the youtubers that get maps in matchmaking, thats ridiculous. For example look at me? I don’t run a youtube channel and had a map in, its not that hard like really you actually need to try before you complain. Literally anybody can get it, half my friends have the helmet and most don’t even have youtube channels. To me it sounds like you want to get a reward without putting in all the effort. Do you know how long it takes to build a map that gets into matchmaking? come on take a guess… 1 week? 2 weeks? maybe 3?
> >
> >
> > It takes anywhere between 1-2 months minimumSure its not all just Build time, a lot of it is play testing… hours and hours if not days of play testing. But my point is that you should actually put in the effort to get your map out there, if you dont go on forgehub/halo customs/The 343 map submission forums and post your map then guess what? its never going to get selected let alone featured by the community youtubers. You act like its hard to get your map featured or set up testing lobbies. A simple email to one of the cartographers is ALL it takes to get the ball rolling, they are plenty happy to help you develop the map and set up play testing lobbies for it.
> >
> > The Olive helmet requirements should stay as it is, But rather we need more exclusive armour and emblems for events like the one you described. I would love an exclusive helmet for hitting max rank, or maybe even an emblem for having my map bookmarked 500 times. This sounds great, its just not what the Olive helmet was designed for though.
> > -Peace out
>
> Alright then, can you help me out? Just like y’know point me in the right direction? Would contacting Forge Labs be a good place to start?
Yeah man pretty much, Send a pm to a few Cartographers or people that run custom lobbies to test maps for matchmaking. I think Brusky is running the testing lobbies this week for Forgehub as most of the crew is focused on perfecting the new Extermination gametype and maps or at least thats what he told me. Nokyard is rounding up maps for a classic playlist but he put that on hold so you definitely have time to submit a map for that playlist. Regular 4v4 map testing is constant thing and will surely be updated in the future although i myself don’t know exactly when.
People you can PM:
Brusky0086 / runNokyardRun
Infinut / The pshyco duck
ducain23 / Wyvernzu
JA50n 0 / Squally Dabeanz
Blackpicture / Pa1nts
Literally Anyone from Creative force / iforge
ect…
Sorry for slow response was busy, but yeah these are but of a few people that can help you, if not point you in the proper direction.
I’m happy Forgers have an exclusive Helmet.
I do think there should be an equivalent to Recon though.
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> Although still keep it linked to the Forge, here’s how it could work:
>
> instead of getting maps into matchmaking, have the player get a combined total of Like, Bookmarks, and played games on a map, this way Forgers still get recognized for all their hard work, but the helmet isn’t so exlusive that only 7 players will have it outside of 343 themselves. I think if 343 are gonna work on the timmy unlock requirements like they are, the least they could do is fix Olive up a little. And again my idea requires the player to have at least 1 map with a certain amount of likes, bookmarks, and played games to unlock the helmet, that way people who make a good map get rewarded for it by the community as well as 343.
So basically anyone could get the helmet. You could just have your friends like and bookmark all your maps. Not to mention the Smurf accounts one could make to like/bookmark the maps. Wouldn’t work, besides, this is what the Forgers deserve. They spent hours on end making these maps. Wouldn’t be fair for everyone to have access to the helmet, it would make it lose what makes it special
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> > Again, we need an alternative method,
>
> No. You want an altnernative method. The requiremenets for it are fine.
I think it’s *requirements :3 Jk, she has a point about you wanting the requirements changed
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> > 2535434457651384;1:
> > Although still keep it linked to the Forge, here’s how it could work:
> >
> > instead of getting maps into matchmaking, have the player get a combined total of Like, Bookmarks, and played games on a map, this way Forgers still get recognized for all their hard work, but the helmet isn’t so exlusive that only 7 players will have it outside of 343 themselves. I think if 343 are gonna work on the timmy unlock requirements like they are, the least they could do is fix Olive up a little. And again my idea requires the player to have at least 1 map with a certain amount of likes, bookmarks, and played games to unlock the helmet, that way people who make a good map get rewarded for it by the community as well as 343.
>
> So basically anyone could get the helmet. You could just have your friends like and bookmark all your maps. Not to mention the Smurf accounts one could make to like/bookmark the maps. Wouldn’t work, besides, this is what the Forgers deserve. They spent hours on end making these maps. Wouldn’t be fair for everyone to have access to the helmet, it would make it lose what makes it special
Did you even see me change my mind a few posts down? Probably not. I’ve spent the last 5 hours or so forging a map that is honestly, making my head hurt, it’s 3am here and I’m going to bed.
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> > > 2535434457651384;4:
> > > Again, we need an alternative method,
> >
> > No. You want an altnernative method. The requiremenets for it are fine.
>
> I think it’s *requirements :3 Jk, she has a point about you wanting the requirements changed
Guess you didn’t read down the thread where I changed my mind like 5-7 posts down.
Lol, so only popular YouTubers have their maps put into MM?
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> Lol, so only popular YouTubers have their maps put into MM?
Dude seriously, knock it off. I already decided to actually put some genuine effort into a map, so seriously quit being a troll.
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> > 2535434548670205;18:
> > Lol, so only popular YouTubers have their maps put into MM?
>
> Dude seriously, knock it off. I already decided to actually put some genuine effort into a map, so seriously quit being a troll.
I mean you said it, not me
Besides, not all the maps made are all Halo YouTubers maps.