Threads that go like 3 months without a response or longer should just be locked. This bringing up old threads from like a year ago is just ridiculous.
I posted a thread about this in Halo support the other day, had some minor support but then I didn’t reply so it died (maybe I’ll resurrect it in 9 months).
Don’t think we’re gonna see anything done about this tbh, but it is a -Yoinking!- pain in the -Yoink-. Several threads a day in Halo 4 forum and its hardly active. Once a thread gets necro’d it guarantee at least a few hours of Page 1 time - during which many will be fooled into reading ridiculously outdated discussion.
I don’t claim to be a computer wiz or anything, but couldn’t they just make it so if a thread hits a certain age without any replies, it locks by itself? That way, it requires no manpower.
There have been an increasingly ridiculous number of necroposts over the past several weeks… threads from a few months to well over a year old are being resurrected every other day. Where all they all coming from?
Just report them, and a Monitor will lock it. That’s what I do.
I think it’s kids using Search and not paying attention to how old the results are.
It is annoying for sure.
> Just report them, and a Monitor will lock it. That’s what I do.
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> I think it’s kids using Search and not paying attention to how old the results are.
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> It is annoying for sure.
Yeah but by the time you can report them you’ve already wasted 10 minutes reading a 9 month old discussion. I don’t care about having the thread locked at that point, its already been as much of an inconvenience to me as it’s going to be.
> Just report them, and a Monitor will lock it. That’s what I do.
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> I think it’s kids using Search and not paying attention to how old the results are.
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> It is annoying for sure.
Recently I’ve been noticing Necro-posts that are clearly on purpose, because the person who brings it back either types random letters, or mentions the date of the thread.
> > Just report them, and a Monitor will lock it. That’s what I do.
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> > I think it’s kids using Search and not paying attention to how old the results are.
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> > It is annoying for sure.
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> Recently I’ve been noticing Necro-posts that are clearly on purpose, because the person who brings it back either types random letters, or mentions the date of the thread.
That old gem: “I know this thread is old but…” NO, just stop posting and make a new thread.
I do agree with Dax though, 90% of it has gotta be accidental caused by use of the search function and threads appearing in Google results.
EDIT: 2 necros at the top of page 1 as we speak.
Well, to be fair if the person adds something significant to the thread that’s actually beneficial to the discussion, it’s better than starting their own.
No point in making a new thread if you can add on (significantly) to an old one.
I think that considering a lot of necro-posts also involved threads that had problems (and by that I mean bugs or other issues) it’s pretty safe to assume that a lot are getting brought back by people who search them up on google or bing in hopes of finding an answer to their situation.
For the life of me I just don’t understand this forum. Out of a good two dozen or so message forums I’ve been a member on, this is the one and ONLY forum where people AND moderators would rather have countless new threads about the same things over and over than keep it organized and have people use the search fuction to find pre-existing threads about topics they wish to discuss.
To this day it astonishes me that a MOD will scold someone here for “necroposting”, a term by the way that I’ve never seen ANYWHERE else. Leave it to 343i to make something that is prefered on all other message forums a punishable offense here. If there was a rolls eyes smiley to use on these forums I’d use one here.
> For the life of me I just don’t understand this forum. Out of a good two dozen or so message forums I’ve been a member on, this is the one and ONLY forum where people AND moderators would rather have countless new threads about the same things over and over than keep it organized and have people use the search fuction to find pre-existing threads about topics they wish to discuss.
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> To this day it astonishes me that a MOD will scold someone here for “necroposting”, a term by the way that I’ve never seen ANYWHERE else. Leave it to 343i to make something that is prefered on all other message forums a punishable offense here. If there was a rolls eyes smiley to use on these forums I’d use one here.
On other forums people do not resurrect 9 month old threads. Yes if a thread is active you should post in there, but if there is no ACTIVE (or recently active) thread on the topic at hand a new one should be created. It is detrimental to discussion when the first 5 pages of a thread were posted by people that have long since left the forum and no longer care about the issue.
Yes if it was something in the Halo Support forum it makes sense to keep old threads going as a sort of log of errors that are reoccurring.
If you genuinely think that resurrected threads would be beneficial in the Halo 4 section of the forum you almost certainly are not an active user.
You know Haza, if you see a thread you don’t recognize at the top of the list, you could just check the date of the first post. That allows me to know if it is a necropost right away, and lets me skip to the last post.
Would this not be better served in Support? Or because most of the necros take place here in the H4 forums?
> > For the life of me I just don’t understand this forum. Out of a good two dozen or so message forums I’ve been a member on, this is the one and ONLY forum where people AND moderators would rather have countless new threads about the same things over and over than keep it organized and have people use the search fuction to find pre-existing threads about topics they wish to discuss.
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> > To this day it astonishes me that a MOD will scold someone here for “necroposting”, a term by the way that I’ve never seen ANYWHERE else. Leave it to 343i to make something that is prefered on all other message forums a punishable offense here. If there was a rolls eyes smiley to use on these forums I’d use one here.
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> On other forums people do not resurrect 9 month old threads. Yes if a thread is active you should post in there, but if there is no ACTIVE (or recently active) thread on the topic at hand a new one should be created. It is detrimental to discussion when the first 5 pages of a thread were posted by people that have long since left the forum and no longer care about the issue.
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> Yes if it was something in the Halo Support forum it makes sense to keep old threads going as a sort of log of errors that are reoccurring.
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> If you genuinely think that resurrected threads would be beneficial in the Halo 4 section of the forum you almost certainly are not an active user.
See, I totally disagree with this. I frequent numerous other forums that are far more active than waypoint like comic boards like theouthouse, niche hobby sites like michael-myers.net, prop collector sites like therpf, cosplay sites, other game sites, etc.
Almost unanimously, people would FAR rather see existing threads being used for continued discussion on the same or similar topics instead of seeing muddy waters full of short threads about the same things over and over and over again. It’s far more organized that way.
Why create the 20th or 40th thread about something when the search button is readily available to find exisitng threads to continue a topic of discussion? It just comes down to lazy users, lazy posting and lazy moderating.
> Why create the 20th or 40th thread about something when the search button is readily available to find exisitng threads to continue a topic of discussion? It just comes down to lazy users, lazy posting and lazy moderating.
I don’t see how monitors having to lock old threads is lazy, since it’s actually more work than allowing it.
I agree in a way, and I’ve wondered that too sometimes. But the way I see it, I’ve seen a lot of people post in pre-weapon tuning threads about the DMR being OP and say how everyone’s wrong because the DMR isn’t OP anymore. The game changes often, so topics don’t just become old, but obsolete, too.
It blows my mind that somebody would actually disagree with me on this. I truly fell sorry for the people that run this site and what they have to deal with. You have my sympathies.
> You know Haza, if you see a thread you don’t recognize at the top of the list, you could just check the date of the first post. That allows me to know if it is a necropost right away, and lets me skip to the last post.
> Would this not be better served in Support? Or because most of the necros take place here in the H4 forums?
I do that usually - the thread title is usually a dead giveaway anyway - but I still frequently get fooled…
> See, I totally disagree with this. I frequent numerous other forums that are far more active than waypoint like comic boards like theouthouse, niche hobby sites like michael-myers.net, prop collector sites like therpf, cosplay sites, other game sites, etc.
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> Almost unanimously, people would FAR rather see existing threads being used for continued discussion on the same or similar topics instead of seeing muddy waters full of short threads about the same things over and over and over again. It’s far more organized that way.
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> Why create the 20th or 40th thread about something when the search button is readily available to find exisitng threads to continue a topic of discussion? It just comes down to lazy users, lazy posting and lazy moderating.
This is not any other forum though. I will grab some links to threads now, and tell me honestly if you think they are a good place for new discussion to take place. We are literally talking about year old threads.
[edit: -Yoink- it no time now, later if this is still living. But next time you notice a necro ask yourself: did that poster contribute anything? is he responding to someone that no longer visits the forum? does this issue still even exist in the game?
The trouble with necros is: even if you reply with a completely articulate well thought out post, there is no one who can respond to it without reading the replies of pages of people who no longer exist on waypoint and who you would likely want to respond to. If it prompts you to reply just to the latest poster, then why is it beneficial that you are discussing something 5 pages into a dead topic? would it not be much more readable for other people if a new thread had been started? I’m not talking about posts from 2 weeks ago, in 90% of these necros I recognise 0-1 user as still being active.
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> I don’t see how monitors having to lock old threads is lazy, since it’s actually more work than allowing it.
I simply mean that to allow such disorder, in the form of countless threads about the same thing over and over, while admonishing people for the hideous crime of “necroposting” instead of making this place more organized by telling people to use the search function to find already existing threads so they can continue to discuss topics there, or by stickying more threads so they’re more easily located, it’s nothing more than lazy and myopic moderation.
> It blows my mind that somebody would actually disagree with me on this. I truly fell sorry for the people that run this site and what they have to deal with. You have my sympathies.
It boggles my mind that someone would actually prefer new threads for same/similar topics versus continued discussion in already exisiting threads.
Maybe the problem is the forum engine…
Any forum software worth having allows the admin to easily archive threads. Don’t blame those who make a new post to an old thread.