Okay, this Mantis BS is enough!...

We really, REALLY need either a buff to the resistance of the regular Mantis, or a decrease in its REQ level… How come I spawn a Mantis, get as much as let’s say, 3 - 4 shots from a BR, and then a SINGLE shot from a Tank blows me up… A. SINGLE. SHOT… the Regular Mantis’ REQ level is absurd for the amount of usefulness you can get out from it…

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> We really, REALLY need either a buff to the resistance of the regular Mantis, or a decrease in its REQ level… How come I spawn a Mantis, get as much as let’s say, 3 - 4 shots from a BR, and then a SINGLE shot from a Tank blows me up… A. SINGLE. SHOT… the Regular Mantis’ REQ level is absurd for the amount of usefulness you can get out from it…
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> > We really, REALLY need either a buff to the resistance of the regular Mantis, or a decrease in its REQ level… How come I spawn a Mantis, get as much as let’s say, 3 - 4 shots from a BR, and then a SINGLE shot from a Tank blows me up… A. SINGLE. SHOT… the Regular Mantis’ REQ level is absurd for the amount of usefulness you can get out from it…
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Thank you

I agree with you! Even when you’re playing extremely careful, it’s very easy to get destroyed in the Mantis (excluding the ONI variant) and you might get just a few kills with it.
Your idea with dercreasing the REQ Level could lower the Frustration when you loose a Mantis and waste REQ Points :smiley:
In my opinion, the same should be done with the Gauss Hog: it feels odd, that you can order a Scorpion on Level 6 but a Gauss Warthog at 7 which can be destroyed pretty easily…

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> We really, REALLY need either a buff to the resistance of the regular Mantis, or a decrease in its REQ level… How come I spawn a Mantis, get as much as let’s say, 3 - 4 shots from a BR, and then a SINGLE shot from a Tank blows me up… A. SINGLE. SHOT… the Regular Mantis’ REQ level is absurd for the amount of usefulness you can get out from it…
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i know what you mean.
i try to play defensively with the mantis and only attack infantry

Maybe just 1 point less to use would be nice.

I feel like the Vehicle balance is pretty off. I would rather be in a Ghost Ultra (level 4) over a rocket hog or standard wraith any day. ONI Warthogs should not be unlocked at level 3. And the Mantis situation…couldn’t agree more. I think the stock Mantis should be a Rare (not Ultra Rare) and unlockable at 5.

Maybe the new Mantis will save us.

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> Maybe just 1 point less to use would be nice.

Don’t know, even level 6 seems too much… I rather use a Wraith or Ghost Ultra instead of a Mantis in any situation

Yeah the mantis in its current state is very weak. Its like they forgot to tune the mantis for halo 5 gameplay. Right now it is just way to slow and clunky to even stand a chance against most enemies. It can now be hijacked from any position where as before you had to be directly behind the mantis to hijack it. The ground stomp on it has been nerfed a lot as well. I have point blank stomped many enemies and vehicles but it does no damage or they just walk right through it and hijack me. The weapons have also been nerfed and they are way to inaccurate and slow. Everyone has plenty of time to get out the way of the mantis before it can do any real damage and hijacking it is extremely easy now.

…so you decided to go out and fight a tank, the tank hit you, and you expect to just… survive? I don’t understand.

The mantis is literally made out of tissue paper. In the campaign its fine but in the multiplayer it makes me cringe.

Tank beats everything!

In all seriousness though, yes the base Mantis is a little weak but I couldnt tell what kind of tank that was that killed you. It could have been an ONI tank with upgraded cannon and those BR potshots you took before that could have came from Kinetic augmented weapons that did more damage to your mantis than you expect them to. Im sure reviewing that match in theater would answer those.

Just saying it might pay off a little more to dig deeper into the “Why” of what happened before airing your grievance here.

Can’t wait to see the chaos with that new Mantis.

they straight ruined it

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> I feel like the Vehicle balance is pretty off. I would rather be in a Ghost Ultra (level 4) over a rocket hog or standard wraith any day. ONI Warthogs should not be unlocked at level 3. And the Mantis situation…couldn’t agree more. I think the stock Mantis should be a Rare (not Ultra Rare) and unlockable at 5.

The Ghost Ultra is the best vehicle in the game.

It has good firepower, high top speed, good handling, decent armor, and the same person is shooting who also is driving. It’s also only a lvl 4 req.

It’s also relatively small with a small silhouette. When people see a tank or Mantis, they’re immediately targeted by half the enemy team because they are perceived as a large threat. Ghosts aren’t so teams will sometimes ignore you and not consider just how much you are wrecking their team.

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> …so you decided to go out and fight a tank, the tank hit you, and you expect to just… survive? I don’t understand.

I expected to stand at least more that ONE shot, in the video I had just spawned the Mantis, the damaged recieved until the Tank encounter were 3 o 4 burst from a BR only, then the Tank shot me ONCE and destroyed the Mantis… Yet the Mantis is a Level 7 - Ultra Rare REQ, and the Tank a Level 6 - Rare REQ… And also, a Tank can be hit twice or three times directly from another Tank until it is destroyed

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> Tank beats everything!
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> In all seriousness though, yes the base Mantis is a little weak but I couldnt tell what kind of tank that was that killed you. It could have been an ONI tank with upgraded cannon and those BR potshots you took before that could have came from Kinetic augmented weapons that did more damage to your mantis than you expect them to. Im sure reviewing that match in theater would answer those.
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> Just saying it might pay off a little more to dig deeper into the “Why” of what happened before airing your grievance here.

You’re right, I’ll watch it in the theater… Better be an ONI tank…

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> Tank beats everything!
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> In all seriousness though, yes the base Mantis is a little weak but I couldnt tell what kind of tank that was that killed you. It could have been an ONI tank with upgraded cannon and those BR potshots you took before that could have came from Kinetic augmented weapons that did more damage to your mantis than you expect them to. Im sure reviewing that match in theater would answer those.
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> Just saying it might pay off a little more to dig deeper into the “Why” of what happened before airing your grievance here.

Nevermind… It was an Corp Tank, you can see it at the end of the video… So, no upgraded cannon

I never spawn in a Mantis, due to the fact that it’s absolute -Yoink-. Only time I’m in a Mantis is if I use a Random Vehicle REQ, and even then I feel like I wasted my REQ points. Hell, I’d rather be in a Ghost Ultra over any vehicle, just about.