It was a nice trailer, in fact I loved it. HOWEVER, it seems like PR/marketing SUICIDE to have not shown custom gameesor forge at this point… Halo 4 kinda died because it was heavily lacking in this regard. So 343… When are you going to show us forge and custom games?
Halo 5 comes out when in 2 months? That is more than enough time for them to talk about those things.
It’s in the full game relax not EVERYTHING has to be showcased before launch. It is great to actually slide a disc into the console and experience things for the first time with no preconceived knowledge of the features game modes etc.
Halo 3 demoed forge a week before launch. I wouldn’t be surprised to see Halo 5 do something similar. There is no need to grow impatient about features that have been confirmed to be included in the final product. Frank O’Conner has confirmed that forge has been improved upon. Custom games I assume we will have to find out on Launch day, similar to previous Halo titles.
They have two months, don’t worry. Forge isn’t something you have to market, it sells itself the moment it is available to the forgers. As long as the tools and options are there and 343i provides a stable environment for files to be shared and explored, I know forge and its community will be fine. Case in point, myself, I bought Halo 3 almost 2 years after it launched and one of the first things I started doing is learning to forge maps. I knew next to nothing about forge before that moment and yet I still managed to make maps and get them to others to play on.
I actually prefer to have surprise come October 27th, Im already mad enough that they have revealed as much as they have.
Please for the love of all that is holy, stop exposing the damn game before its release.
h4 gave everything away, H5 is not and you people are crying…how about you accept the middle ground 343i is giving instead. Also why spoil forge or any of those features? Why not be surprised by them post launch. Why must they be spoiled for you? Heck I would be pissed if they gave any info on it.
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> h4 gave everything away, H5 is not and you people are crying…how about you accept the middle ground 343i is giving instead. Also why spoil forge or any of those features? Why not be surprised by them post launch. Why must they be spoiled for you? Heck I would be pissed if they gave any info on it.
Mine and many other gamers are waiting for the reveal to determan whether they will buy halo 5 BASED SOLEY ON ITS LONGEVITY not on its 3 hour campaign, not based on the same 5 maps over and over in matchmaking which makes the game stale in a week. We are basing it off what holds the game together, its customs, and 343 has shown VERY LITTLE intrest in keeping any of its titles available for more then a year, before the next one is rushed out. (Halo 4 lasted 2 years but BARELY) They have shown custom gamers which is 90 % of the time spent by gamers who get SICK OF MM quickly. Which is a huge fanbase. Programmers get this but the team devoted on marketing dont want us to spend time in customs and this is killing parties and killing friendships. I wont buy halo 5 and many others wont if there is no longevity
see, normally, i would be in agreement with you guys… but when halo 4 came out, ALOT of the custom games features were not present that were there for halo reach, an older game by YEARS, and guess what… people were outraged by it, because THE MOST DETRIMENTAL FEATURE IN CUSTOM GAMES WAS GONE (infected being able to hold weapons DESTROYING the possibility of extremely popular custom games that were possible due to this very feature) that along with a few technical things that you couldnt do… making custom games so broken, that THE COMMUNITY took it unto themselves by modding it in, for alot of people i know and talk to, if the custom games arent there and in full force, halo 5 cant sell as good. one -Yoink- up was bad enough… the second devastated the community… and the third will begin to sink halo
Do i want halo 5 to be bad? hell no… will it if custom games arent implemented as they should be? yes considering custom games is what brings people back into matchmaking thus extending the life of your game, so dont give me this crap about “but i want it to be a suprise” cause thats fine and dandy… for the campaign because that SHOULD be a suprise… you know what shouldnt be? OLD FEATURES THAT ARE STRIPPED FOR NO REASON THAT KEEP PEOPLE COMING BACK if anything, they should have talked about it already considering right about NOW is when they usually do, not shoving agent locke down our throats when campaign alone wont keep longevity for a potentially good title, if anything, STOP making campaign trailers and giving away story info, tell us why we should give a -Yoink- about the game AFTER we play the campaign
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> > h4 gave everything away, H5 is not and you people are crying…how about you accept the middle ground 343i is giving instead. Also why spoil forge or any of those features? Why not be surprised by them post launch. Why must they be spoiled for you? Heck I would be pissed if they gave any info on it.
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> Mine and many other gamers are waiting for the reveal to determan whether they will buy halo 5 BASED SOLEY ON ITS LONGEVITY not on its 3 hour campaign, not based on the same 5 maps over and over in matchmaking which makes the game stale in a week. We are basing it off what holds the game together, its customs, and 343 has shown VERY LITTLE intrest in keeping any of its titles available for more then a year, before the next one is rushed out. (Halo 4 lasted 2 years but BARELY) They have shown custom gamers which is 90 % of the time spent by gamers who get SICK OF MM quickly. Which is a huge fanbase. Programmers get this but the team devoted on marketing dont want us to spend time in customs and this is killing parties and killing friendships. I wont buy halo 5 and many others wont if there is no longevity
This, at the end of the day, halo 3 proved that it will be custom games that keeps everyone busy and playing the game while they PROPERLY work on the next iteration
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> I actually prefer to have surprise come October 27th, Im already mad enough that they have revealed as much as they have.
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Its not exposing the game… you know what exposes the game? telling us too much about campaign and character motivations and story details… you know what doesnt? telling us why we should care about halo after we play that story… telling us why we shouldnt just sell it after because theres more… telling us that after we finish the epic campaign, why we should play some matchmaking then eventually dig into custom games to keep the player base ALIVE
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> It’s in the full game relax not EVERYTHING has to be showcased before launch. It is great to actually slide a disc into the console and experience things for the first time with no preconceived knowledge of the features game modes etc.
I’m gonna say it like you guys always say it:
“Spoiling the first cutscene of the story is okay, but not giving us a single breadcrumb of an important part of Halo’s sandbox would be a ‘great’ surprise?”
come on people… why do you think halo reach lasted so long? why do you think halo 4 didnt? use your heads and ask that they show it to us now… before we buy a game that isnt worth the hype train its driving
I couldnt agree more. The campaign stuff should be like a top secret case file, i dont want anything spilled about the campaign. Was that opening cinematic awesome… of coarse it was but it would have been way more exciting to see that closer to launch or even the day of launch.
I want to see things that makes halo 5 a great investment based on things that keep the longevity alive. I want to see forge and what new improves they added to forge. I want to see how custom games have gotten better. I want to see at least one new map that has a decent amount of gameplay before launch.
Watching the only warzone map makes me already tired of it and thats because its the only footage of warzone. The maps from the beta are also going to be boring to play since we played them so much for 2 weeks. I want fresh and new multiplayer stuff shown. Its these keys things that keeps us coming back.
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> > h4 gave everything away, H5 is not and you people are crying…how about you accept the middle ground 343i is giving instead. Also why spoil forge or any of those features? Why not be surprised by them post launch. Why must they be spoiled for you? Heck I would be pissed if they gave any info on it.
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> Mine and many other gamers are waiting for the reveal to determan whether they will buy halo 5 BASED SOLEY ON ITS LONGEVITY not on its 3 hour campaign, not based on the same 5 maps over and over in matchmaking which makes the game stale in a week. We are basing it off what holds the game together, its customs, and 343 has shown VERY LITTLE intrest in keeping any of its titles available for more then a year, before the next one is rushed out. (Halo 4 lasted 2 years but BARELY) They have shown custom gamers which is 90 % of the time spent by gamers who get SICK OF MM quickly. Which is a huge fanbase. Programmers get this but the team devoted on marketing dont want us to spend time in customs and this is killing parties and killing friendships. I wont buy halo 5 and many others wont if there is no longevity
lol 3 hour campaign. K. For your sake I hope you get something.
Vidocs, they said BTB is not at launch, they would’ve mentioned more things were not at launch. Just be patient
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> > > h4 gave everything away, H5 is not and you people are crying…how about you accept the middle ground 343i is giving instead. Also why spoil forge or any of those features? Why not be surprised by them post launch. Why must they be spoiled for you? Heck I would be pissed if they gave any info on it.
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> > Mine and many other gamers are waiting for the reveal to determan whether they will buy halo 5 BASED SOLEY ON ITS LONGEVITY not on its 3 hour campaign, not based on the same 5 maps over and over in matchmaking which makes the game stale in a week. We are basing it off what holds the game together, its customs, and 343 has shown VERY LITTLE intrest in keeping any of its titles available for more then a year, before the next one is rushed out. (Halo 4 lasted 2 years but BARELY) They have shown custom gamers which is 90 % of the time spent by gamers who get SICK OF MM quickly. Which is a huge fanbase. Programmers get this but the team devoted on marketing dont want us to spend time in customs and this is killing parties and killing friendships. I wont buy halo 5 and many others wont if there is no longevity
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this is besides his point obviously… this discussion, is about when we will be shown something to give us a real reason why to buy this at launch, supporting the future of 343i instead of borrowing it or paying dirt cheap for it used later down the road just to play the campaign, which for an ARENA SHOOTER, wont keep the franchise alive… if theres nothing fun to do for forgers and custom games enthusiasts in halo 5 it will flop… EVEN HARDER than halo 4 did, because now everyone is waiting to see if they -Yoinked!- up like last time
Where are customs and Forge? On the discs (or codes), I’d assume. Enjoy.
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> It was a nice trailer, in fact I loved it. HOWEVER, it seems like PR/marketing SUICIDE to have not shown custom gameesor forge at this point… Halo 4 kinda died because it was heavily lacking in this regard. So 343… When are you going to show us forge and custom games?
I didn’t realise Halo 5 was out tomorrow.
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> come on people… why do you think halo reach lasted so long? why do you think halo 4 didnt? use your heads and ask that they show it to us now… before we buy a game that isnt worth the hype train its driving
That’s completely subjective. For example, the game— to me— is already worth the asking price solely based off of what we’ve seen so far. Furthermore, there is severe lack of data suggesting that the decline in the Halo 4 player-base correlates with it’s custom games (which I played quite a few of). I distinctly remember this same community lording Halo 3 player stats over Reach, blaming Armour Abilities (specifically Armour-Lock) for it’s population decline. Now we’re braging about Reach player counts? Funny how the community says one thing then another thing happens… On a side note, Halo 4 is really popular on TMCC… Just remember that life isn’t binary. To add just one last thing, Forge and custom games have both been confirmed to be in Halo 5, so I’m not too sure where you’re coming from. In all honesty, you’re just complaining for the sake of complaining.