why is vehicle combat dead?
oh yea, because two stickys will kill a wraith driver.
everyone spawns with plasma pistol, and sticky grenades.
vehicles are made of tissue paper.
and maps are all littered with a million different forms of cover all of the place.
I love it, makes driving harder, plus vehicles suck lol. Nothing like a guy hopping in a Banshee and I shoot him down so fast with my sniper he didnt see it coming
All the BtB maps are quite condensed right now, besides ragnorok. Once we get some bigger maps I think we will see some better combat, as it should be much harder to land stickys and charged pistol shots.
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But yes, they suck and take no thought to dispose of.
> All the BtB maps are quite condensed right now, besides ragnorok. Once we get some bigger maps I think we will see some better combat, as it should be much harder to land stickys and charged pistol shots.
It already sucks on Ragnarok, even then map size has little to do with their health.
not only that, not one map properly caters to vehicle gameplay. Everything is closed in, narrow and not very spacious to drive the vehicles.
Will there be a classic playlist? we might not have the best maps for it (hoping the dlc will have something) but at least they wont be emp’d and jacked in no time.
Now i do take some responsibility at times for losing my vehicle too quickly but it’s not all that, most of the time it’s because people spawn with plasma pistols.
I actually like what they did to the vehicles. I remember that in Reach the vehicles were these god-like war machines that took entire teams to take out. It was unfair to see some amateur get a perfection because the scorpion’s turret was like an over-sized explosive sniper.
The vehicles now take more skill to use effectively than before (except the new warthog, that thing sucks hard).
I am a dedicated driver, and I can confirm that vehicles do indeed suck. Especially the classic hogs. 
In fact, I´m the anti vehicles guy, it´s usually I who swiftly take out enemy vehicles on my team, whether they be Mantise, Gauss Hogs, Banshees or Scorpions and Wraiths.
Tbh, players should spawn with only one plasma grenade.
think of vehicles as rocket launchers: incredibly powerful with death-dealing potential. However, there is limited ammo and if you die… you lose them. thats exactly how it should be. i hated in other halo games when someone would get a banshee or tank and control the entire game.
> think of vehicles as rocket launchers: incredibly powerful with death-dealing potential. However, there is limited ammo and if you die… you lose them. thats exactly how it should be. i hated in other halo games when someone would get a banshee or tank and control the entire game.
you do realise, vehicles in halo four have almost zero death dealing potential, in fact, vehicles ARE DRIVABLE DEATH TRAPS, someone obviously hasn’t been playing against competant teams if you think vehicles are great death dealer, you must be playing halo reach, and not halo 4.
My last game I was shooting these two guys riding in Ghosts with the Rail Gun and it took 3 shots to destroy just one Ghost.
I also stuck the other one and shot him once during the battle but he didn’t blow up.
It took three Spartan Laser blasts to destroy a damn Wraith in a BtB match…
I just don’t see how vehicles are weaker?
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What are you talking about? The vehicles in this game are over-powered! You get a hold of a ghost? You’re bound to get a crap ton of kills! If you can’t even get at least a killing spree with one, then you just suck… Really bad…
there are ways to counter the EMP and grenades. I think if anything vehicle combat is slightly less appealing now because BTB has personnel drops. I love those but it creates too many power weapons on the map. Vehicles have good health and damage. Personnel drops just need to be outed from BTB. Considering we spawn with stickies and PP.
> there are ways to counter the EMP and grenades. I think if anything vehicle combat is slightly less appealing now because BTB has personnel drops. I love those but it creates too many power weapons on the map. Vehicles have good health and damage. Personnel drops just need to be outed from BTB. Considering we spawn with stickies and PP.
umm…how exactly would you counter the plasma pistol? ti shuts everything down, with the exception of the warthog gun (even the tanks gunner seats are shut down) further more, the plasma pistol becomes even more effective the larger the target, …
it like saying you can counter a knock out punch, the problem is, you can’t your unconscious at that point. that said, i agree, personal ordinances have cause far to many power weapons to exist on the map at any one time.
thank all the winey reach trash that complained about being spawn killed by teams on 8 in btb. 343 listened to those pathetic noobs and nerfed vehicles. a lot