Now before I go on about this topic this IS NOT a complaining/crying/-Yoinking!- post about no Falcon in the memories of Reach DLC. This is about in the event that 343 finally decides to give us a UNSC air vehicle which one should they choose and what upgrades/balances would they give it to fit it in Warzone.
I’d like to hear your ideas and be as constructive as possible. We want to give 343 as many ideas/balancing options as possible if they see this thread.
My idea for a UNSC Air Vehicle:
Personally I’d like to see the Falcon come back. Yes, I know how other people think that Hornet is a much better vehicle and easier to fit in to warzone (and that’s probably true), but the phaeton is basically the same thing. What I think they should do to balance the Falcon is to use the variant from the reach campaign that has the front mounted turret for the pilot to use. This way you don’t necessarily NEED side gunners to defend yourself from threats but it would be recommended since this is the pilot’s only weapon which would only be as effective as a warthog turret. Now sure it’s still pretty easy to take down, BUT if they make it so it’s an uncommon/rare req then it won’t be such a big deal to lose if you get splasered out of the sky or peppered with small arms fire.
Falcons SUCK… I don’t understand why people want that thing back. Bring in the Hornets from H2A… at least then you have rockets and guns and can carry passengers.
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> Falcons SUCK… I don’t understand why people want that thing back. Bring in the Hornets from H2A… at least then you have rockets and guns and can carry passengers.
You say the Falcon sucks but… Well… Let’s just say it isn’t the Falcon that sucks.
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> You say the Falcon sucks but… Well… Let’s just say it isn’t the Falcon that sucks.
Go ahead bring it back then… I could use the easy double and triple kills I would always get shooting that big slow thing down.
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> > You say the Falcon sucks but… Well… Let’s just say it isn’t the Falcon that sucks.
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> Go ahead bring it back then… I could use the easy double and triple kills I would always get shooting that big slow thing down.
The Falcon has to be a Triple Kill to be useful. Hm. Ain’t that Ironic?
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> > > > Falcons SUCK… I don’t understand why people want that thing back. Bring in the Hornets from H2A… at least then you have rockets and guns and can carry passengers.
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> > > You say the Falcon sucks but… Well… Let’s just say it isn’t the Falcon that sucks.
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> > Go ahead bring it back then… I could use the easy double and triple kills I would always get shooting that big slow thing down.
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> The Falcon has to be a Triple Kill to be useful. Hm. Ain’t that Ironic?
The Warthog has to be a double kill to be useful.
Spectre/Prowler, too
It’s called teamwork.
Falcon had a gun on the front in Campaign. Add it. You guys just weren’t doing it right. All of my Reach games and I rarely lost the bird, and when I did it wasn’t the Splaser or PP that killed it. It was stuff like tanks and snipers. And once from a Gauss Hog.
You just have to know what you’re doing, unlike the Phaeton.
Takes 2 rockets to kill a Falcon. I’ve been killed by 2 rockets in a Phaeton before.
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> Go ahead bring it back then… I could use the easy double and triple kills I would always get shooting that big slow thing down.
Vehicle type: The Goshawk has a turbine engine contained within its fuselage. It seats a single pilot and can be used for air to air combat and destroying armoured land vehicles, such as Scorpions, Ghosts and, Wraiths.
Vehicle Design: The vehicle has a bubble cockpit. There are two exhausts leading from the turbine engine on either side of the vehicle, it has thick armour on the sides as well as underneath, as that is where it will be most likely hit by enemy fire. However, it has no armour on top and is very vulnerable to attack from above. Therefore, pilots should always make sure that there is no enemy air vehicle above the Goshawk. The Goshawk can be disabled with a charged plasma pistol shot.
Vehicle color: The Goshawk’s factory color is a light-grey, however it can be repainted with a camouflage that is relative to where it will be operating.
Weapons: The Goshawk’s base armament is a Spartan laser in the nose and one autocannon on each wing. The Goshawk can also be armed with a rocket pod on each wing and a scaled down Gauss cannon in the nose.
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> Name: Goshawk.
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> Vehicle type: The Goshawk has a turbine engine contained within its fuselage. It seats a single pilot and can be used for air to air combat and destroying armoured land vehicles, such as Scorpions, Ghosts and, Wraiths.
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> Vehicle Design: The vehicle has a bubble cockpit. There are two exhausts leading from the turbine engine in either side of the vehicle, it has thick armour on the sides as well as underneath, as that is where it will be most likely hit by enemy fire. However, it has no armour on top and is very vulnerable to attack from above. Therefore, pilots should always make sure that there is no enemy air vehicle above the Goshawk. The Goshawk can be disabled with a charged plasma pistol shot.
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> Vehicle color: The Goshawk’s factory color is a light-grey, however it can be repainted with a camouflage that is relative to where it will be operating.
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> Weapons: The Goshawk’s base armament is a Spartan laser in the nose and one autocannon on each wing. The Goshawk can also be armed with a rocket pod on each wing and a scaled down Gauss cannon in the nose.
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> I hope you like my UNSC air vehicle concept.
Sooo… The Hawk from Halo Wars with better armor and a different name?
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> > Go ahead bring it back then… I could use the easy double and triple kills I would always get shooting that big slow thing down.
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> >Falcon is the fastest vehicle in the game
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> >Phaeton is slower.
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> >Your argument is invalid
What ever… I shot that thing down so many times in reach… I would even take it down with the plasma launcher… also the phaeton has a boost so you can dodge shots with it… falcon doesn’t have that… so your argument is invalid… sorry you don’t have the reaction time to use the boost in the phaeton.
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> > > > You say the Falcon sucks but… Well… Let’s just say it isn’t the Falcon that sucks.
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> > > Go ahead bring it back then… I could use the easy double and triple kills I would always get shooting that big slow thing down.
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> > “Slow”
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> > >Falcon is the fastest vehicle in the game
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> > >Phaeton is slower.
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> > >Your argument is invalid
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> What ever… I shot that thing down so many times in reach… I would even take it down with the plasma launcher… also the phaeton has a boost so you can dodge shots with it… falcon doesn’t have that… so your argument is invalid… sorry you don’t have the reaction time to use the boost in the phaeton.
I’m sorry you don’t have the reaction time or skill to dodge in the Falcon. And the fact that you completely suck with it. That doesn’t make my argument invalid, but nice try.
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I use the boost well and only have been shot down by instant death tanks/splasers and rockets after the boost has been used. There’s a cool down to it, if you haven’t noticed.
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> > My idea idea for a UNSC air vehicle.
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> > Name: Goshawk.
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> > Vehicle type: The Goshawk has a turbine engine contained within its fuselage. It seats a single pilot and can be used for air to air combat and destroying armoured land vehicles, such as Scorpions, Ghosts and, Wraiths.
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> > Vehicle Design: The vehicle has a bubble cockpit. There are two exhausts leading from the turbine engine in either side of the vehicle, it has thick armour on the sides as well as underneath, as that is where it will be most likely hit by enemy fire. However, it has no armour on top and is very vulnerable to attack from above. Therefore, pilots should always make sure that there is no enemy air vehicle above the Goshawk. The Goshawk can be disabled with a charged plasma pistol shot.
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> > Vehicle color: The Goshawk’s factory color is a light-grey, however it can be repainted with a camouflage that is relative to where it will be operating.
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> > Weapons: The Goshawk’s base armament is a Spartan laser in the nose and one autocannon on each wing. The Goshawk can also be armed with a rocket pod on each wing and a scaled down Gauss cannon in the nose.
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> > I hope you like my UNSC air vehicle concept.
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> Sooo… The Hawk from Halo Wars with better armor and a different name?
The base weapons being the same as the Hawk from Halo Wars was purely coincidental.
I don’t imagine it to have much resemblance to the Hawk, I imagine it would look more like a futuristic version of this:
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> > > > > > Falcons SUCK… I don’t understand why people want that thing back. Bring in the Hornets from H2A… at least then you have rockets and guns and can carry passengers.
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> > > > > You say the Falcon sucks but… Well… Let’s just say it isn’t the Falcon that sucks.
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> > > > Go ahead bring it back then… I could use the easy double and triple kills I would always get shooting that big slow thing down.
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> > > >Falcon is the fastest vehicle in the game
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> > > >Phaeton is slower.
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> > > >Your argument is invalid
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> > What ever… I shot that thing down so many times in reach… I would even take it down with the plasma launcher… also the phaeton has a boost so you can dodge shots with it… falcon doesn’t have that… so your argument is invalid… sorry you don’t have the reaction time to use the boost in the phaeton.
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> I’m sorry you don’t have the reaction time or skill to dodge in the Falcon. And the fact that you completely suck with it. That doesn’t make my argument invalid, but nice try.
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> I use the boost well and only have been shot down by instant death tanks/splasers and rockets after the boost has been used. There’s a cool down to it, if you haven’t noticed.
Hahaha how does being able easily shoot it down equate to some one “sucking” with it… I hope they do bring it back now so all you noobs can get blown out of the sky with the lasers and rocket launcher and I can laugh as you fall from the sky falcon had no boost to dodge with… smh… you don’t even remember how the vehicle worked
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> > > > > > You say the Falcon sucks but… Well… Let’s just say it isn’t the Falcon that sucks.
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> > > > > Go ahead bring it back then… I could use the easy double and triple kills I would always get shooting that big slow thing down.
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> > > What ever… I shot that thing down so many times in reach… I would even take it down with the plasma launcher… also the phaeton has a boost so you can dodge shots with it… falcon doesn’t have that… so your argument is invalid… sorry you don’t have the reaction time to use the boost in the phaeton.
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> > I’m sorry you don’t have the reaction time or skill to dodge in the Falcon. And the fact that you completely suck with it. That doesn’t make my argument invalid, but nice try.
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> > I use the boost well and only have been shot down by instant death tanks/splasers and rockets after the boost has been used. There’s a cool down to it, if you haven’t noticed.
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> Hahaha how does being able easily shoot it down equate to some one “sucking” with it… I hope they do bring it back now so all you noobs can get blown out of the sky with the lasers and rocket launcher and I can laugh as you fall from the sky falcon had no boost to dodge with… smh… you don’t even remember how the vehicle worked
I didn’t say the Falcon had a boost, I was referring to the Phaeton. Not being able to dodge efficiently equates to sucking with it because a good pilot can strafe, even if it isn’t directly a function of the vehicle.
By the way, after 12 years of Halo’ing, most of which are on this account, I don’t qualify as noob.
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> > > Name: Goshawk.
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> > > Vehicle type: The Goshawk has a turbine engine contained within its fuselage. It seats a single pilot and can be used for air to air combat and destroying armoured land vehicles, such as Scorpions, Ghosts and, Wraiths.
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> > > Vehicle Design: The vehicle has a bubble cockpit. There are two exhausts leading from the turbine engine in either side of the vehicle, it has thick armour on the sides as well as underneath, as that is where it will be most likely hit by enemy fire. However, it has no armour on top and is very vulnerable to attack from above. Therefore, pilots should always make sure that there is no enemy air vehicle above the Goshawk. The Goshawk can be disabled with a charged plasma pistol shot.
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> > > Vehicle color: The Goshawk’s factory color is a light-grey, however it can be repainted with a camouflage that is relative to where it will be operating.
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> > > Weapons: The Goshawk’s base armament is a Spartan laser in the nose and one autocannon on each wing. The Goshawk can also be armed with a rocket pod on each wing and a scaled down Gauss cannon in the nose.
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> > > I hope you like my UNSC air vehicle concept.
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> > Sooo… The Hawk from Halo Wars with better armor and a different name?
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> The base weapons being the same as the Hawk from Halo Wars was purely coincidental.
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> I don’t imagine it to have much resemblance to the Hawk, I imagine it would look more like a futuristic version of this:
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> Harrier Jump Jet - Wikipedia
That is an interesting concept.
Personally, I think it would be cool if we had a UNSC air vehicle that could have active camouflage. Perhaps a transport vehicle or something with a laser?
How about a giant Air Assault Warzone/BTB map that supports mainly air to air combat? Fully loaded with Banshees and Vampires and Phaetons and Hornets and Falcons and even a neutral Vulture that teams could fight over. Everyone spawns with a recon SMG (standard issue for UNSC pilots according to the Warzone weapon description) and the only weapons at base are a few AA guns, such as A Splaser and A SPNKR. The bases could be fitted with Gauss and chaingun turrets to keep invaders away. Put a teleporter at each base for a small snipers nest and box a Scorpion in and use it as a stationary cannon. This could also open the door for the AA Wraith from Halo 3 to be a new REQ or the addition of a usable MAC Cannon that teams could also fight for. The map would be awesome for large scale game play like Warzone or BTB and would be great for CTF and Slayer. Variants of the old Invasion game type from Reach with one team on O and the other on D would be fun too. I know it sounds like a lot and it might get some hate cause “stuff is too OP” and its “not traditional Halo” or whatever but I think that would be awesome. I made a map similar to this back in Reach and my friends and I had a blast playing on it
This childish argument is entertaining and all, but I’m sure we all know that the only real air vehicle we need is the monster AC-220 gunship.
Otherwise called the Vulture.
A beautiful level 9 req, capable of raining a barrage of destruction upon those puny ground convoys of cute little Scorpions.
Gosh, I’d almost feel bad for them.
