Official petition for the Battle Rifle in Halo 4.

Post here if you agree.

Although I do want the BR back, we should make new weapons and move on from the BR. Oh, and this petition won’t do anything to get the BR back.

Got my vote, obviously…

I like the DMR, you might not like bloom, but I really like the idea of a single -Yoink- rifle, thats not the sniper. In early videos of one of the halos (2 or 3 i assume) they said the BR was going to have a toggle option to make it one shot or a burst. I could be misremembering, or just dreaming this up. But I’d like that a lot.

Personally, I have to have the BR in Halo 4. Its a must have for me lol. It just seems like a better fit for a futuristic sci-fi shooter opposed to a single shot rifle. However, if the DMR just has to be in Halo 4, I hope its limited to customs and swat only. That thing is awesome in swat, but it should not be the primary weapon for a halo game.

Id prefer a single shot weapon. The spread of the br will just get negated by aim assist, so its kinda useless.

I don’t see why there is not room for both. DMR > BR imo. But I wouldn’t begrudge the game for going either way, neither is a must have, but for the hard core BR fans let me ask you this, is it fond memories of past games and hate for reach that leans you towards the br, or are their other reasons? I belive it is possible to keep it one shot, but tweak the game play more closley resemble past titles to make everyone happy.

How about something NEW. The only reason why the BR is liked so much is because it’s so incredibly over-powered.

If the BR did come back in Halo 4, it would be more like the DMR anyways.

I personnaly don’t think that the DMr will make it’s comeback , Reach was before halo CE , We saw the Br in Halo 2 , and in halo 3 still no DMr , just BR , it will be out of contexte if they put in a DMr , except if on Onyx there are some DMr’s wich i dought very much , the technologie has advanced since the DMr , The BR has the zoom a 4shot kill. THe DMR will be to overpowered in a Real spartans Hands , No bloom just 5shot spam = dead … It will be more compétitive with the BR

Oh and did i mentionned it , I’m a BR lover , the true skill weapon , based on not only aim , but brain also , Wich lot of people have forgotten about <3

How is this official?

OT: Yes please.
No bloom and no spread though.
Just lower the auto-aim and reduce the hitbox size.

I just like the single shot more, I think a single shot is more precise and harder to kill with than a 3 round burst. I feel it takes more skill with the single shot than it does with a semi auto burst. I always felt the BR was to op. And sadly continuety has nothing to do with weapons. I mean why don’t covenant have AL in h3? nothing of their tech was lost and they have it in reach. Weapons are for game play, story is for campaign, I do not think they to strongly consider weapons or abilitys or equiment when considering timeline.

Either way the new precision mainstay will be something new I am sure, even if it is called BR or DMR. Though ultimatley I would prefer the single shot.

> I just like the single shot more, I think a single shot is more precise and harder to kill with than a 3 round burst. I feel it takes more skill with the single shot than it does with a semi auto burst. I always felt the BR was to op. And sadly continuety has nothing to do with weapons. I mean why don’t covenant have AL in h3? nothing of their tech was lost and they have it in reach. Weapons are for game play, story is for campaign, I do not think they to strongly consider weapons or abilitys or equiment when considering timeline.
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> Either way the new precision mainstay will be something new I am sure, even if it is called BR or DMR. Though ultimatley I would prefer the single shot.

I undestand , but just imagine yourself on HR for example on Hermorrage , Your at the cave there is an enemy at the middle map , you shoot it by crouching , and boom 5shot with the zoom , how is that skillfull in anyway ? HR is more of a " i stay in my corner do my kills and hop off " game , so yhe DMr is perfect for it , but i think since Mc is coming back , and due to his size and speed , wich is increased compared to a Spartan 2 , the BR will be perfect , the BR has a latence time to hit an ennemy rather than the DMr has a direct Hit , so it’s nearly impossible to save yourself or so , i don’t think the DMR will stick with the gameplay compared to a Br , techniquely speaking.

Of course the BR is gonna be back, Halo 4 is a DIRECT CONTINUATION of Halo 3, it wouldnt make sense for it not to be.

halo 2 br. please lord not halo 3.

> I undestand , but just imagine yourself on HR for example on Hermorrage , Your at the cave there is an enemy at the middle map , you shoot it by crouching , and boom 5shot with the zoom , how is that skillfull in anyway ? HR is more of a " i stay in my corner do my kills and hop off " game , so yhe DMr is perfect for it , but i think since Mc is coming back , and due to his size and speed , wich is increased compared to a Spartan 2 , the BR will be perfect , the BR has a latence time to hit an ennemy rather than the DMr has a direct Hit , so it’s nearly impossible to save yourself or so , i don’t think the DMR will stick with the gameplay compared to a Br , techniquely speaking.

I am not sure I understand what your saying. What is to say I couldn’t turn this scenario around, If you are sitting on the edge with the BR couldn’t you do the exact same thing? And I honestly am not sure what you you mean by the second half? Please explain, I can’t tell you I’m right if I’m not sure what you mean :stuck_out_tongue:

> Of course the BR is gonna be back, Halo 4 is a DIRECT CONTINUATION of Halo 3, it wouldnt make sense for it not to be.

I fully belive that 343 will not consider continuety when choosing weapon line ups. I was to understand they already confirmed AA’s in H4 and I don’t see how that is a direct continuation of halo 3. For story reasons I don’t think it should be done, but I like the IDEA of AA’s and would like to see them succefuly implimented. I thought they were cool but apparently I was horribly wrong.

I have a better idea, how about a semi-automatic Battle Rifle rather than a burst fire Battle Rifle.

It should still take 12 shots to kill, it should probably have a max fire rate of something slightly faster than the Needler Rifle. This way we can basically get rid of all spread/bloom on precision weapons, the ability to cross map will be limited by the number of shots that it will take to kill and it will lose to automatic weapons at short range more frequently.

So in the end most people will be happy. We get a weapon that requires “skill” and it will better balanced than the burst fire Battle Rifle and the DMR.

> > I undestand , but just imagine yourself on HR for example on Hermorrage , Your at the cave there is an enemy at the middle map , you shoot it by crouching , and boom 5shot with the zoom , how is that skillfull in anyway ? HR is more of a " i stay in my corner do my kills and hop off " game , so yhe DMr is perfect for it , but i think since Mc is coming back , and due to his size and speed , wich is increased compared to a Spartan 2 , the BR will be perfect , the BR has a latence time to hit an ennemy rather than the DMr has a direct Hit , so it’s nearly impossible to save yourself or so , i don’t think the DMR will stick with the gameplay compared to a Br , techniquely speaking.
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> I am not sure I understand what your saying. What is to say I couldn’t turn this scenario around, If you are sitting on the edge with the BR couldn’t you do the exact same thing? And I honestly am not sure what you you mean by the second half? Please explain, I can’t tell you I’m right if I’m not sure what you mean :stuck_out_tongue:
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> > Of course the BR is gonna be back, Halo 4 is a DIRECT CONTINUATION of Halo 3, it wouldnt make sense for it not to be.
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> I fully belive that 343 will not consider continuety when choosing weapon line ups. I was to understand they already confirmed AA’s in H4 and I don’t see how that is a direct continuation of halo 3. For story reasons I don’t think it should be done, but I like the IDEA of AA’s and would like to see them succefuly implimented. I thought they were cool but apparently I was horribly wrong.

What i’m saying is that the DMR has Direct shots so easy kills by a far end which is not really being "brainfull " , rather than the Br needs more of a close up shot and team shot wich needs both skill and brain.

In the second half i was saying that masterchief , compared to noble 6 is Huge ( 2m10 height ) , he is so more vulnerable compared to N6 which can hide easely , so direct shots can not and will not be implated in H4 , Br Shots have a latence wich means taht they take more time to hit the target wich i think is more appropriate to H4 since we have Masterchief in hand and all

your saying the br has a slower bullet travel speed?

And I think I am just going to have to disagree with the argument about the BR taking more skill and brain, I think that your argument could make just as much sence if you were preaching for the dmr instead of the BR. I think both weapons have the exact same potential, both have never been used int he same game so a direct comparison can’t be made. One can argue that the DMR behaves the exact same what the BR WOULD if it where here instead. I think it personaly comes down to a prefrence of one shot to burst. And with prefrence you cant be wrong.

You have my vote sir.