Objective games are pretty much not playable. King of the Hill for the past 3 days are people just surrounding the Hill and waiting for the other team to go in and then kill them. They make no effort to capture the Hill.
How is 343 going to address this?
P.S. Where is the SEARCH functionality on this forum?
Only way to address this is to remove weapons from objective playlists.
I thought objective games don’t effect your K/D though?
The objective is to win.
And also, there is more to KotH than mindlessly rushing the hill over and over and over…
They sadly do still impact your kill death ratio. And the really sad thing is you can have like 3 minutes in the hill and still take last on your team in points. So yah I want them to not count your kill/death ratio in objective games like they promised.
I played some CTF with friends yesterday and we played (too many) matches against people who were just staying back near their flag on top of buildings spamming DMR’s. It wasn’t fun.
I agree. K/D from objective playlist shouldn’t be counted for overall K/D.
Really?
Your complaint is that you got completely wrecked in KOTH and couldn’t even get near the hill? You realize you can shoot your guns as well right?
Well if they’re completely ignoring the hill, why not only get 30 seconds of capture time, then spend the rest of the match slaying them?
That way you’ll still get the win, and maintain a decent KD.
Funny trolls here thats for sure. Theres playing KOTH and then theres KOTH.
The one I dont like playing, that 343 need to fix is, when ALL PLAYERS ON THE OTHER TEAM do not capture the hill at all and just camp around it and kill people going into it. They make no effort to complete the objective. That is what im talking about. 343 need to fix this, otherwise Slayer and SWAT (coming tomorrow) will be the only playlists played…
Simply put: increase the points for winning. Otherwise, people just don’t care about taking the objectives to win, unfortunately. This could also discourage frequent quits in other playlists.
So what do we have:
who didn’t see this coming? without a rank system this will happen. same problem in reach. without a reason to win people will just go for kills
Yes the all powerful 1-50 system will save us from boosters and trolls once and for all!!! How could we be so blind!!!BRING BACK 1-50!!!
Yeah right.
Agree, and if you think KOTH got it bad, go play some ODDBALL.
Just today i played few games where people were just putting ball in a corner as a bait not interested in getting any points for possession and turning whole thing into shootout.
One of them would pick ball up for a split sec so it wouldn’t reset.
Sad, really.
And yes, i know - “just got outgunned, scrub”, “bad kid is bad” and other mature comments are probably incoming just as i click on ‘post’ icon.
That’s not the point. I may suck at Halo, and be crap with pulling the perfect headshots. But when i go play objective game pubs (Oddball, KOTH, CTF) i play with my team to fulfill the objectives and i expect others to do the same.
We had this problem in some Halo 3 and Reach playlists, where Slayer and Objective gametypes were mixed.
Remember how atrocious was it?
Even when you (finally) got to play some objective game - 90% of people weren’t interested.
I thought we won’t have this problem in Halo 4.
Oh, and btw - ever wondered why so many YouTube ‘ExEtrEme pR0 sN1p3 xXx MlG moNtAg3’ from previous games were replays from objective games?
“Let those noobs care for them stupid flags, im just gonna snipe from here” - players with this mentality.
FINAL THOUGHT:
GIVE PLAYERS MORE POINTS (XP) FOR FULFILLING ACTUAL OBJECTIVES.
CHANGE ALL KILL BONUSES TO SINGLE DIGITS IN OBJECTIVE GAMES.
SIMPLE.
I guess for the most part I’ve played objective with friends and we play the objective. Funny thing is in the process of playing the objective we get a high kill count anyways. We all stand in the hill and kill anyone that tries to get near. When it moves we go to the next hill and repeat until we’ve won the game. For CTF we cap as fast as we can, if the other team is playing uber defense the game draws out and kill count will rise. As for oddball depending if we can even get the ball we try to finish that as fast as possible too.
I don’t get why players / teams need to “pad stats” in objective when all they have to do is play the objective and they will see it’s easy to rack up the kills because oh yeah … the entire enemy team is coming after you lol
Now of course I’ve played with randoms and already seen several parties hold the objective (aka hold the flag in ctf) and purposely not cap it so they pad stats. I quit those games and find another one. I will not be a part of a match where my team is holding the objective or the other team is holding it on me. I don’t need that crap to play well and it’s boring.
> Yes the all powerful 1-50 system will save us from boosters and trolls once and for all!!! How could we be so blind!!!BRING BACK 1-50!!!
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> Yeah right.
who said anything said anything about the 50 system? if there was a penalty for losesing do you think people wold just camp to get kills and not go for the objective? no. and the proof is H3. any rank system would fix this problem
He’s right your complaining about getting wrecked then loosing the games instead of rushing a hill kill the other team and then get hill time and win use the weapon you have and destroy there team gain the hill an win simple. KD Should count for this playlist and it only makes you more conservative on how you play , I used to play this to get better at. Mlg and you don see people complaining about dieing in that playlist it’s full on you just can’t sit in the hill and expect to die once it’s hard . My point of view I go into oddball and koth to get good stats and win if I see a team of bad kids I’ll kill them then get objective time makes the game funner for me and lots of other smart players .
I still feel K/D plays a role in Objective matches. I look at it like this, I will go for an objective, but only if I have chance for survival or if it is necessary.
Deaths hurt your team and killing is still important in Objective matches. It shouldn’t be your only concern, but at the same time, you need to kill to push a base.
k/d tracking should not be removed. While some people DO k/d boost, killing is still an objective because you are protecting a person/area/a person with an object. people who kill 2 people and die 25 times trying to protect an entity deserve to have it added to their record.