So…maps that SHOULD have been released with the game are finally being released after only THREE WEEKS and they want $10 for them? No way. They haven’t even addressed the huge flaws in the game to any significant degree.
It’s insulting beyond belief to charge for 3 maps this soon after release. They released a half-baked game with inferior maps, inferior mechanics and now they do this. This almost falls in to the bait and switch category. They sell you on a lower priced product and then force you to pay more. Because, like Reach, you won’t be able to play most of the playlists unless you have “the required DLC”.
Ugh, I’m sick of all the whiners about this game. It is a good game, and I feel bad that you are too blind to realize that. Well, you’ll be missing out, go and play -Yoink- CoD and have fun, if you consider it that.
> Don’t worry OP, you’re not alone.
>
> These people haven’t realized what 343 did to them and the Halo franchise.
“these people” are enjoying halo 4 as is. Not our fault that you can’t. seems like your the one taking it hard. Thats cool you got your opinion. But trying to claim that the people that enjoy this game are ignorant is a lie. How far has your head gone up your -Yoink-?
Your main argument in any thread is population. Thats it. And you know what? Population does not equal quality. Is that a new concept to you? I bet it is. Look at call of duty. same rehashed re polished game its always been with sub par maps and basic watered down gameplay. But its popular because its EASY.
halo’s population has been dropping each game. Arena shooters arn’t popular anymore. You want facts?
-the gaming industry has changed
-arena styles are not popular anymore
The “large population” that you keep brining up thats been lost of halo fans has been gone since halo reach.
the population will change drastically over the next few months because of gaming season/holidays.
-If anything the “small” amount of people that keep this constant population are the true halo fans. If it was some COD kid they have already dropped the game.
but enough of facts. Halo 4 is still very much alive. And just because its different doesn’t mean 343 has failed. people like you that spread hyperbull hop on the hate wagon to be “in the moment” you don’t understand any of what you speak of. Which is clear because your only argument is population.
> > Don’t worry OP, you’re not alone.
> >
> > These people haven’t realized what 343 did to them and the Halo franchise.
>
> “these people” are enjoying halo 4 as is. Not our fault that you can’t. seems like your the one taking it hard. Thats cool you got your opinion. But trying to claim that the people that enjoy this game are ignorant is a lie. How far has your head gone up your -Yoink!-?
>
> Your main argument in any thread is population. Thats it. And you know what? Population does not equal quality. Is that a new concept to you? I bet it is. Look at call of duty. same rehashed re polished game its always been with sub par maps and basic watered down gameplay. But its popular because its EASY.
>
> halo’s population has been dropping each game. Arena shooters arn’t popular anymore. You want facts?
>
> -the gaming industry has changed
>
> -arena styles are not popular anymore
>
> - The “large population” that you keep brining up thats been lost of halo fans has been gone since halo reach.
>
> - the population will change drastically over the next few months because of gaming season/holidays.
>
> -If anything the “small” amount of people that keep this constant population are the true halo fans. If it was some COD kid they have already dropped the game.
>
> but enough of facts. Halo 4 is still very much alive. And just because its different doesn’t mean 343 has failed. people like you that spread hyperbull hop on the hate wagon to be “in the moment” you don’t understand any of what you speak of. Which is clear because your only argument is population.
>
> TLDR your wrong. leave.
I hope you understand none of those where facts right?
I’ll just go ahead and lay down some facts and speculations:
Halo 4 has lost +80% of it’s population.
Halo 4 has less features than Reach and Halo 3.
Halo 4 has less playlists than Halo 3 and Reach.
Halo 4 has a shorter campaign than Halo 3 and Reach.
Halo 4 has peaked at 100k population online.
Halo 3 never went below 250k 2-3 years after release.
Halo Reach never went below 150k 2 years after release.
The majority of the Halo community has dropped Halo 4.
Halo 4 has removed almost everything that has anything to do with being competitive.
Halo 4 only has Social playlists.
The majority of the community has agreed halo 4 does not feel like a Halo game.
Most MLG players despise Halo 4.
MLG was seriously considering removing Halo 4 from it’s roster.
I do hope you understand that if 4 million people bought the game and 3 million people dropped it, it means a lot of people were disappointed with it right?
You along with the other 100k people still playing this game have been robbed by 343. I’m not here to argue with you, I’m here to get 343’s attention so they can make changes to the communities major issues.
I’m not paying a dime for the maps either. After all, they are included in the map pass I got with my limited edition. But on a more serious note, these maps are released now and not with the game because they weren’t at a finished state when the game went gold.
It’s important to remember that when a game gets released, any content additions have been stopped months ago, even before the bug fixing began. Now, the maps cannot be put into the game unfinished, so they end up releasing the maps, surprise, surprise, when they are actually ready to be released. In this case, those maps are something they have been working on for months, but didn’t quite get into the game. There was no chance for that. And anyone who isn’t getting them because they think the maps should have already been in the game should probably think again.
> > > Don’t worry OP, you’re not alone.
> > >
> > > These people haven’t realized what 343 did to them and the Halo franchise.
> >
> > “these people” are enjoying halo 4 as is. Not our fault that you can’t. seems like your the one taking it hard. Thats cool you got your opinion. But trying to claim that the people that enjoy this game are ignorant is a lie. How far has your head gone up your -Yoink!-?
> >
> > Your main argument in any thread is population. Thats it. And you know what? Population does not equal quality. Is that a new concept to you? I bet it is. Look at call of duty. same rehashed re polished game its always been with sub par maps and basic watered down gameplay. But its popular because its EASY.
> >
> > halo’s population has been dropping each game. Arena shooters arn’t popular anymore. You want facts?
> >
> > -the gaming industry has changed
> >
> > -arena styles are not popular anymore
> >
> > - The “large population” that you keep brining up thats been lost of halo fans has been gone since halo reach.
> >
> > - the population will change drastically over the next few months because of gaming season/holidays.
> >
> > -If anything the “small” amount of people that keep this constant population are the true halo fans. If it was some COD kid they have already dropped the game.
> >
> > but enough of facts. Halo 4 is still very much alive. And just because its different doesn’t mean 343 has failed. people like you that spread hyperbull hop on the hate wagon to be “in the moment” you don’t understand any of what you speak of. Which is clear because your only argument is population.
> >
> > TLDR your wrong. leave.
>
> I hope you understand none of those where facts right?
>
> I’ll just go ahead and lay down some facts and speculations:
>
> - Halo 4 has lost +80% of it’s population.
> - Halo 4 has less features than Reach and Halo 3.
> - Halo 4 has less playlists than Halo 3 and Reach.
> - Halo 4 has a shorter campaign than Halo 3 and Reach.
> - Halo 4 has peaked at 100k population online.
> - Halo 3 never went below 250k 2-3 years after release.
> - Halo Reach never went below 150k 2 years after release.
> - The majority of the Halo community has dropped Halo 4.
> - Halo 4 has removed almost everything that has anything to do with being competitive.
> - Halo 4 only has Social playlists.
> - The majority of the community has agreed halo 4 does not feel like a Halo game.
> - Most MLG players despise Halo 4.
> - MLG was seriously considering removing Halo 4 from it’s roster.
>
> Want to learn more about people leaving Halo 4?
>
> https://forums.halowaypoint.com/yaf_postsm1885580_THE-TRUTH-ABOUT-THE--POPULATION-THREADS.aspx#post1885580
LOL way to copy and paste your argument from another thread. Some guy already picked through your list and broke your lists of facts. Go read that. Again your only argument is population. Thats been picked apart. And anyone with a brain knows that a games population doesn’t equal quality. Bulletstorm is a good example of this. good game low population. your still wrong.
Yeah, charging additional $10 for 3 maps, 30 days after release, is … Enough to look elsewhere.
Add the ridiculous juggling of match types (why do they have to come and go?), ranking system and no maps or playlists for team doubles.
No, I am NOT a COD lover, but I did play the hell out of Halo 3 and BF3. Neither of them are without issues either, but they also didn’t push for more money this fast and this many issues for me. I may have to let the “true fans” fund the fixing for a while. True fans, please buy ASAP!
> > > > Don’t worry OP, you’re not alone.
> > > >
> > > > These people haven’t realized what 343 did to them and the Halo franchise.
> > >
> > > “these people” are enjoying halo 4 as is. Not our fault that you can’t. seems like your the one taking it hard. Thats cool you got your opinion. But trying to claim that the people that enjoy this game are ignorant is a lie. How far has your head gone up your -Yoink!-?
> > >
> > > Your main argument in any thread is population. Thats it. And you know what? Population does not equal quality. Is that a new concept to you? I bet it is. Look at call of duty. same rehashed re polished game its always been with sub par maps and basic watered down gameplay. But its popular because its EASY.
> > >
> > > halo’s population has been dropping each game. Arena shooters arn’t popular anymore. You want facts?
> > >
> > > -the gaming industry has changed
> > >
> > > -arena styles are not popular anymore
> > >
> > > - The “large population” that you keep brining up thats been lost of halo fans has been gone since halo reach.
> > >
> > > - the population will change drastically over the next few months because of gaming season/holidays.
> > >
> > > -If anything the “small” amount of people that keep this constant population are the true halo fans. If it was some COD kid they have already dropped the game.
> > >
> > > but enough of facts. Halo 4 is still very much alive. And just because its different doesn’t mean 343 has failed. people like you that spread hyperbull hop on the hate wagon to be “in the moment” you don’t understand any of what you speak of. Which is clear because your only argument is population.
> > >
> > > TLDR your wrong. leave.
> >
> > I hope you understand none of those where facts right?
> >
> > I’ll just go ahead and lay down some facts and speculations:
> >
> > - Halo 4 has lost +80% of it’s population.
> > - Halo 4 has less features than Reach and Halo 3.
> > - Halo 4 has less playlists than Halo 3 and Reach.
> > - Halo 4 has a shorter campaign than Halo 3 and Reach.
> > - Halo 4 has peaked at 100k population online.
> > - Halo 3 never went below 250k 2-3 years after release.
> > - Halo Reach never went below 150k 2 years after release.
> > - The majority of the Halo community has dropped Halo 4.
> > - Halo 4 has removed almost everything that has anything to do with being competitive.
> > - Halo 4 only has Social playlists.
> > - The majority of the community has agreed halo 4 does not feel like a Halo game.
> > - Most MLG players despise Halo 4.
> > - MLG was seriously considering removing Halo 4 from it’s roster.
> >
> > Want to learn more about people leaving Halo 4?
> >
> > https://forums.halowaypoint.com/yaf_postsm1885580_THE-TRUTH-ABOUT-THE--POPULATION-THREADS.aspx#post1885580
>
> LOL way to copy and paste your argument from another thread. Some guy already picked through your list and broke your lists of facts. Go read that. Again your only argument is population. Thats been picked apart. And anyone with a brain knows that a games population doesn’t equal quality. Bulletstorm is a good example of this. good game low population. your still wrong.
Haha all he did was reply with his opinion about it.
It’s unbelievable how blind you are.
I know it’s hard for you to admit the truth, not only to us but to yourself.
343 only uses stats and numbers for their information, what do you thik that tells them?
> Yeah, charging additional $10 for 3 maps, 30 days after release, is … Enough to look elsewhere.
>
> Add the ridiculous juggling of match types (why do they have to come and go?), ranking system and no maps or playlists for team doubles.
>
> No, I am NOT a COD lover, but I did play the hell out of Halo 3 and BF3. Neither of them are without issues either, but they also didn’t push for more money this fast and this many issues for me. I may have to let the “true fans” fund the fixing for a while. True fans, please buy ASAP!
not really. there is a deadline for content additions. and maps in this case wern’t done when this deadline hit.
The idea of bringing in playlists every week is nice. Keeps the things fresh. Keeps the playlists that hold populations in and low populations out.
> I’m not paying a dime for the maps either. After all, they are included in the map pass I got with my limited edition. But on a more serious note, these maps are released now and not with the game because they weren’t at a finished state when the game went gold.
> > > > > Don’t worry OP, you’re not alone.
> > > > >
> > > > > These people haven’t realized what 343 did to them and the Halo franchise.
> > > >
> > > > “these people” are enjoying halo 4 as is. Not our fault that you can’t. seems like your the one taking it hard. Thats cool you got your opinion. But trying to claim that the people that enjoy this game are ignorant is a lie. How far has your head gone up your -Yoink!-?
> > > >
> > > > Your main argument in any thread is population. Thats it. And you know what? Population does not equal quality. Is that a new concept to you? I bet it is. Look at call of duty. same rehashed re polished game its always been with sub par maps and basic watered down gameplay. But its popular because its EASY.
> > > >
> > > > halo’s population has been dropping each game. Arena shooters arn’t popular anymore. You want facts?
> > > >
> > > > -the gaming industry has changed
> > > >
> > > > -arena styles are not popular anymore
> > > >
> > > > - The “large population” that you keep brining up thats been lost of halo fans has been gone since halo reach.
> > > >
> > > > - the population will change drastically over the next few months because of gaming season/holidays.
> > > >
> > > > -If anything the “small” amount of people that keep this constant population are the true halo fans. If it was some COD kid they have already dropped the game.
> > > >
> > > > but enough of facts. Halo 4 is still very much alive. And just because its different doesn’t mean 343 has failed. people like you that spread hyperbull hop on the hate wagon to be “in the moment” you don’t understand any of what you speak of. Which is clear because your only argument is population.
> > > >
> > > > TLDR your wrong. leave.
> > >
> > > I hope you understand none of those where facts right?
> > >
> > > I’ll just go ahead and lay down some facts and speculations:
> > >
> > > - Halo 4 has lost +80% of it’s population.
> > > - Halo 4 has less features than Reach and Halo 3.
> > > - Halo 4 has less playlists than Halo 3 and Reach.
> > > - Halo 4 has a shorter campaign than Halo 3 and Reach.
> > > - Halo 4 has peaked at 100k population online.
> > > - Halo 3 never went below 250k 2-3 years after release.
> > > - Halo Reach never went below 150k 2 years after release.
> > > - The majority of the Halo community has dropped Halo 4.
> > > - Halo 4 has removed almost everything that has anything to do with being competitive.
> > > - Halo 4 only has Social playlists.
> > > - The majority of the community has agreed halo 4 does not feel like a Halo game.
> > > - Most MLG players despise Halo 4.
> > > - MLG was seriously considering removing Halo 4 from it’s roster.
> > >
> > > Want to learn more about people leaving Halo 4?
> > >
> > > https://forums.halowaypoint.com/yaf_postsm1885580_THE-TRUTH-ABOUT-THE--POPULATION-THREADS.aspx#post1885580
> >
> > LOL way to copy and paste your argument from another thread. Some guy already picked through your list and broke your lists of facts. Go read that. Again your only argument is population. Thats been picked apart. And anyone with a brain knows that a games population doesn’t equal quality. Bulletstorm is a good example of this. good game low population. your still wrong.
>
> Haha all he did was reply with his opinion about it.
>
> It’s unbelievable how blind you are.
>
> I know it’s hard for you to admit the truth, not only to us but to yourself.
>
> 343 only uses stats and numbers for their information, what do you thik that tells them?
Actually some of his points were based off of information you gave him. Your still wrong. exactly how am i blind?
I know halo 4 is different. I know it has its issues. But the difference (the HUGE difference) between you and i as im not spreading hyperbull. I’m not stuck in the past. And im not taking the small issues halo 4 has and blowing them WAY out of preportion.
I don’t see how im not admitting the truth? im having fun and your not. thats as black and white as it gets. Ill state it one last time because you must have troubles reading. population is not quality because if that was true call of duty would never be the behemoth it is today and arena shooters would still be king.
take gears of war for example. MAJOR arena shooter. gears of war 3 barley held a population. Now if you go look at gears of war judgment its sacrificed some of its arena elements to keep up. If that isn’t enough proof to you that the industry has changed and arena shooters arn’t the popular ones anyone then your more blind then your claiming me to be.
> > Don’t worry OP, you’re not alone.
> >
> > These people haven’t realized what 343 did to them and the Halo franchise.
>
> Arena shooters arn’t popular anymore. You want facts?
>
> -arena styles are not popular anymore
