No, you’re missing the point. Until 343 allows us to purchase items a-la-carte, without time restrictions, these bundles are not a good deal. They are only a strategy to get players to spend more than they normally would under the guise of a sale.
No one is saying the price of a helmet should be at an equal proportion of the total bundle price as the emblem in the same bundle. We’re saying fix the terrible store system that can only sell 6 things at a time. Why can’t I pick up that shoulder piece that was released 3 months ago that I missed? Does 343 not want my money? Why do I need to check the store everyday in the hopes it comes up in a new/repeated bundle just to be grouped with a bunch of other crap I don’t want and have to fork out extra for because “what a deal!”?
At the event last weekend, I laughed out loud when two of the commentators were poking fun at the cosmetics in between the matches. “Oh you know you wanna go buy these new HCS skins! They have been proven to make you play better too!” lol good times
So you fight for everything to be sold all at once? Anything new should just, plop into the catalog, tallying up the seasons, before you know it we got a blop of a mess of a store.
Soon, items have to go out. Of course you make some sense, but my problem is there are no exclusive items that should be temporarily in the store. Everything sold there is just a rotational normal piece without it being connected to a season. If everything is in the store, then there is no reason to ever come back to the game, without fear of losing anything. This is how games are, especially multiplayer.
i think the the shop and catalog can both be used, its just stuff in the catalog would cost slightly more than in the shop but at least people might feel like they’re not wasting money on cosmetics they didn’t ask for.
now that i think about maybe they can do some sorta combo deal, we can buy our very own custom sets of armor at price similar to the shop, we just have to select a piece for almost every category.
from the sounds of it, a lot of players want this. it reduces FOMO and its how halo use to be.
ok I have like 3 points ----
You’re saying here that items need to be rotated out because you basically want exclusivity, yet say you dont like it because current items are disconnected from the season. I can give you a simple answer to that with that there isn’t a lot of cosmetic content to pick from, let along probably being currently created, inturn they have to rotate Tenrai armor after the season. if you’re putting in the fomo logic that Fort has, it still makes no sense because a skin could be gone for a year then suddenly appear randomly on a day, unless its extremely old. by this logic, you might as well just bar players from getting Mrk 5 armor pieces since those armor pieces are 10 yrs old…yet players today still are fon of those pieces (including me).
a “Mess of a store” wouldn’t really be much of a mess. your telling me you cant just make it like this: you go into the catalog, if offers “Canon” and “Non Canon” items, which breaks down to each cosmetic type with a UI similar to the store (like instead of how it is when customizing w/ everything on one line). lets say you go to Canon → Shoulders. here it would be an entire screen of squares the size of the squares when you’re customization your spartan (sry if the visualization is hard lol). you click one, you get a preview of it ON YOUR SPARTAN (basically not a default spartan) w/ a small price reflecting the type of cosmetic + rarity (lets say…20 credits. before you argue, no one has made a good break down). what if you want just Mrk 7? filters on the top offer what armor core, rarity, maybe even season.
There, a “mess of a store” that you could easily section off from the main store. “but what about new stuff???”. keep them in bundles normally in the normal store until the end of the season. “but that will make players have no reason to come back”. reason why players dont come back is there’s no content. I said previously in this point that they rotate things because they dont have much. I’ve seen leaks of all the cosmetics “seasonal items” are pretty low.
lets look at Season 2 in regards to armor, as season 1 was basically “guys, remember reach? wasn’t that a great game for cosmetics” and in turn you can just dump decade old armor into the store (coatings excluded cause its just colors and you can just bundle the color blue with anything, same w/ visors and effects since they’re universal). S2 dropped Rakshasa armor core (basically glorified Marine armor, fight me lol), which has 11 helms, 18 attachments (note there’s some that are exclusive to certain helms, so tbh we can cut this in half for now). 12 shoulders (left and right), 4 gloves, 9 knees, 13 chests, 4 wrists, and 6 hips. in my head canon, armor “sets” are signified on the helmet, in turn lets assume there are 11 armor sets in this season, with a few bits and bobs as fodder content (EX wrists, hips, and helm attachments), + take out the 4 sets from events and BP, leaving you with 7 to be used in the store…you want Exclusivity, but you technically got it cause there isnt much to use for a 9 month season. “what about the Eaglestrike event??” you say? that’s only 6 armor sets, or really 4 sets since 2 are free from the event, in turn they didn’t even have a set per week when that fracture event happened (they were 6 weeks btw).
If you want more items per season, you need more stuff to buy, yet there isnt…much…to buy anyways. catalog Fixes this because it puts everything in one spot. and are you Really gonna buy everything there? fun fact, prior to launch, if you wanted to buy everything you needed 1000 bucks? and that was before season 2’s items
you’re asking to keep it rotational because if they go through putting everything in the store, it will kill the already low player base because it would make players not have fomo? This makes 0 sense cause from the sounds of it, you WANT them to be predatory with their player base, as in you want them to keep us on our toes to check the store everyday to see if that pair of gloves for my tenrai set comes back and I’ll have to pay 20 bucks for said gloves cause its bundled with 15 other cosmetics, 8 being emblems and stickers…a catalog would fix this cause players can just buy what they want. its how 360 Reach worked…cept we actually played the game to earn credits so we can buy our armor pieces…which gave a bit more weight into said pieces since it showed that you took time to earn them. but i mean as you said, this is 2023, gaming nowadays is just buy all your cosmetics to show that you earn more money than the other guy : /
I could honestly go on longer but at this point with how long of a response i made, I’ve lost you in explaining myself.
off topic, I actually had one idea bac in Nov 2021 called Armis Crates, and basically on the weekend we get a set of challenges that reward us with a crate. This crate would have a random “size” on how many things you could put into it, which then get “Locked in” once we pick what we want. this is when we would buy this bundle based on the individual prices that are on said catalog, with a flat discount possibly. BUT instead of just buying the crate and getting them right away, the game gives you something similar to a event battle pass, which you would do challenges and earn said items. they get money, and we both get what we want + get a feeling of earning our items again
i was thinking something similar, they could just gives us credits to earn by completing ultimate challenges every week. honestly the challenges already feel like work to complete they should literally start paying us to do them. i guess the only problem that would make is some players might feel scamed that they payed 12 or 20$ for a bundle when they could’ve just earn them if 343 had earnable credits from the start.
God i just really hate this whole thing, should never have been this way with all this f2p, fomo, mtx crap. just buy the game and play the game, no extra bs, how hard is that? maybe xbox should just start making their exclusives, i guess originals at this point, have free online mp that would be really great!
B-B-but we need to squeeze every cent out of our player base!!! Earning cosmetics? No no no no this isn’t 2012. this is 2023, we gotta put them into bundles with a bunch of garbage so we can inflate the price Over arching progression? Ewwwww, no no no just make battle passes with half the content challenge rerolls and xp boosts. fortnite and warzone does it, so we can do it right? its not like halo is literally the grandfather of console gaming, being the first game to implement the modern fps layout, create an engaging story thats still looked back on with love, characters with literal story arcs where we watch them change over the course of games, and factions with actual goals and not just “me gud guy, me bad guy. we fight”… right?
Sure if 343 can’t build a UI. There’s been online stores that sell thousands of different items for over a decade. You have a featured section with bundles and then a searchable catalogue.
Heck the game already has a UI to show every item currently available…its on the customization menu. Just let us buy from there.
No they don’t. Digital goods don’t have ‘stock’ to worry about.
First of all this is false. Adding something new to the store that someone wants would bring them back to the game. Same as now. Except they wouldn’t be in fear of having to snapshot it or missing it for months/years.
Secondly, you shouldn’t need cosmetic stuff to be added to a store to come back to the game. The appeal of the game should be the game. If you only came back for a cosmetic, odds are you aren’t really enjoying the game anyway.
Limited time events? Double XP weekends? Rotating playlist? Weekly resets? New seasons passes?
Why does it have to be the “fear” route, for the store of all things, to get players to come back? (rhetorical, don’t answer, I know why)
If they made the game more consumer friendly, consumers would support it more. Heck, if I could cherry pick each item I wanted, I wouldn’t care if it cost more than a $12 bundle, I’d spend $25 (although I am vain) on cosmetics if it meant I had everything I wanted.
Bundles are only a good deal if you want multiple items in the bundle. If there are 8 items, and I only want 1, everything else isn’t a “steal” it’s raking up the price of my 1 item, even worse when all the items I want are in separate bundles.
Micro-transactions, when implemented with good intentions, aren’t a bad thing, but something changed between the development of Halo Infinite and the final release of the game.
343 kept hyping the wonderful world of customization this game was going to have, and then Halo released, and shock, there was none of what was being hyped. I honestly think 343 saw the initial positive reviews of the game, a light went off in their greedy little heads, and they decided to monetize pretty much everything; there was easy money to be had.
They had completely disregarded everything they had talked about and made a play for the addicted, easily manipulated shopper, who cares about content when you have addicts spending money on virtual trinkets.
There is no argument anyone can put forward that can contradict anything I have said. This game has very little content and has major technical problems that have, to date, not been fixed; promised content has been cancelled, but still the store items are hyped, overpriced, and yet, people still clamber to buy them; that’s the intended fan 343 saw and went for.
Sure, why not? Maybe the shop features new stuff for a bit before coming off “Sale” and entering a general catalog. I would even advocate for items that were part of free events to enter a catalog and be sold. I’ve got plenty of additional thoughts on that, but won’t get into it unless someone wants to.
You’re absolutely right. The way the store is currently set up, it would be a total mess.
But why? I can’t think of a single benefit to consumers.
The event items going in is a good move as well. there’s a lot I can say, but its why they’ll need a rehaul. its why i suggested it in the last post
You have no idea how confused I was reading this response. never in my life have I read a sentence on the line of “if they are able to buy everything, then they wont play. so we NEED FOMO to keep games alive”
I know I bring this game in a lot, but that’s how Sea of Theives works. that game is basically Based on cosmetics. however with each updates, a lot of players go back to see what new to the game and not just cosmetics
Good point.
I mean, $100 is, like, a month (or two, if the sales are right) of food! And $20 is four used games at GameStop (with their 4 for $20 sale on games $10 or less)!
Over arching progression? Ewwwww, no no no just make battle passes with half the content challenge rerolls and xp boosts. fortnite and warzone does it, so we can do it right? 
