NOT ENOUGH VARIETY!

343 please add more variety to the swat and team arena playlists. I love CTF but I find it is always the same three or four maps in Halo 5 and for MCC it is rarely voted for on the off chance it shows up. As for SWAT, initially it was great but the map selection has been VASTLY REDUCED in Halo 5 since the H1 pistol and H2 BR were added. Playing the same gametypes on the same maps repeatedly in team arena is not enjoyable.

Dude there’s like 5 gamemodes for SWAT. I think you’re just getting unlucky for CTF. If you want a ton of variety, play team Skirmish. Team skirmish is social so they don’t care how certain game types play on certain maps.

I’d be super happy if they got rid of H1 swat and put in ctf and maybe strongholds. King of the hill in H4 was great, ctf was great, no idea why they took it out.

the problem is not, lack of variety. the problem is, you are joining completely different lobbies every game, so you are bound to land on the same map and mode a few times a day.

I really wish the maps and gamemodes were chosen through a RNG, probably the only thing I would want RNG in any game.

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> I really wish the maps and gamemodes were chosen through a RNG, probably the only thing I would want RNG in any game.

They are picked base off RNG, they just need to balance it out more, my bet is certain modes/map combinations are set to where they get picked 70% of the time while the rest are slowly set at smaller %s to be picked.

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> > I really wish the maps and gamemodes were chosen through a RNG, probably the only thing I would want RNG in any game.
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> They are picked base off RNG, they just need to balance it out more, my bet is certain modes/map combinations are set to where they get picked 70% of the time while the rest are slowly set at smaller %s to be picked.

I hope they remove the 70% chance of playing at some point, if that is what’s going on.

I have to somewhat agree, even though I find this ‘problem’ more in Super Fiesta.

The map Mercy doesn’t seem to show up as much as others. Now, that could of course just be because I’m expecting and hoping to see it, and thus remember the times when it doesn’t show up, more often than when it does. Randomness isn’t intuitively what we think it ought to be. A truly random set will not appear ‘random’ in the manner that some people assume it will.

Or, perhaps, some maps are more weighted than others.

But I think, and this applies also to what we expect from REQ packs, that what is actually random, doesn’t seem random to us. Truly random sets will contain pairs, and maps appearing more frequently than others.

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> Dude there’s like 5 gamemodes for SWAT. I think you’re just getting unlucky for CTF. If you want a ton of variety, play team Skirmish. Team skirmish is social so they don’t care how certain game types play on certain maps.

I know. For swat there are enough types, but the map selection is very small. When I first started playing there were about 5 or more maps in the playlist that have been removed. Molten, Overgrowth, Torque, and Stasis were common. Now almost every match is on the Rig, Haven or Truth. For team arena its pretty much the same thing. I have yet to play CTF on any other map than Collesiem or Truth and strongholds on Rig or Plaza.

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> the problem is not, lack of variety. the problem is, you are joining completely different lobbies every game, so you are bound to land on the same map and mode a few times a day.

No,I play a couple hours or more a day and it is ALWAYS the exact same. I feel like they only want the maps that premote super fast pacing in there or something.

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> 343 please add more variety to the swat and team arena playlists. I love CTF but I find it is always the same three or four maps in Halo 5 and for MCC it is rarely voted for on the off chance it shows up. As for SWAT, initially it was great but the map selection has been VASTLY REDUCED in Halo 5 since the H1 pistol and H2 BR were added. Playing the same gametypes on the same maps repeatedly in team arena is not enjoyable.

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> > Dude there’s like 5 gamemodes for SWAT. I think you’re just getting unlucky for CTF. If you want a ton of variety, play team Skirmish. Team skirmish is social so they don’t care how certain game types play on certain maps.
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> I know. For swat there are enough types, but the map selection is very small. When I first started playing there were about 5 or more maps in the playlist that have been removed. Molten, Overgrowth, Torque, and Stasis were common. Now almost every match is on the Rig, Haven or Truth. For team arena its pretty much the same thing. I have yet to play CTF on any other map than Collesiem or Truth and strongholds on Rig or Plaza.

Well, I don’t know about SWAT, sounds like your just getting bad luck, but there is a simple reason why in Team Arena your only getting those maps, that’s because not all the maps are in the Team Arena playlist. Team Arena uses the HCS formate so whatever maps/game types have been approved for it are in.

Pretty sure this is the most updated list www.halowaypoint.com/en-us/news/ then search for Team Arena Winter update.

As you can clearly see, maps like molten, riptide etc are not in it at all. I honestly like the set up in Halo 5. I hate the voting system from Reach, Halo 4 etc and never want it back. I would be ok with a veto system like Halo 3 had. I liked the whole “gamble” for a your favorite map and such.

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> > 343 please add more variety to the swat and team arena playlists. I love CTF but I find it is always the same three or four maps in Halo 5 and for MCC it is rarely voted for on the off chance it shows up. As for SWAT, initially it was great but the map selection has been VASTLY REDUCED in Halo 5 since the H1 pistol and H2 BR were added. Playing the same gametypes on the same maps repeatedly in team arena is not enjoyable.
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> > > Dude there’s like 5 gamemodes for SWAT. I think you’re just getting unlucky for CTF. If you want a ton of variety, play team Skirmish. Team skirmish is social so they don’t care how certain game types play on certain maps.
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> > I know. For swat there are enough types, but the map selection is very small. When I first started playing there were about 5 or more maps in the playlist that have been removed. Molten, Overgrowth, Torque, and Stasis were common. Now almost every match is on the Rig, Haven or Truth. For team arena its pretty much the same thing. I have yet to play CTF on any other map than Collesiem or Truth and strongholds on Rig or Plaza.
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> Well, I don’t know about SWAT, sounds like your just getting bad luck, but there is a simple reason why in Team Arena your only getting those maps, that’s because not all the maps are in the Team Arena playlist. Team Arena uses the HCS formate so whatever maps/game types have been approved for it are in.
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> Pretty sure this is the most updated list www.halowaypoint.com/en-us/news/ then search for Team Arena Winter update.
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> As you can clearly see, maps like molten, riptide etc are not in it at all. I honestly like the set up in Halo 5. I hate the voting system from Reach, Halo 4 etc and never want it back. I would be ok with a veto system like Halo 3 had. I liked the whole “gamble” for a your favorite map and such.

I get it man and thats the problem, why not put molten, overgrowth, or riptide in there in like 1 out ten matches. And theres clearly a demand for ctf it was the second most playlist in Halo 4. I prefer it without the voting as well, just need to mix it up. I want to play ctf on more than two maps, same goes for stronghold. Its not ‘luck’, like I said, I play everyday. I really hope they switch it up in March.

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> the problem is not, lack of variety. the problem is, you are joining completely different lobbies every game, so you are bound to land on the same map and mode a few times a day.

No, there are only about 6 or 7 gametypes/maps IN TOTAL in the entire playlists, including different gametypes on the same maps. I theres about 30 plus maps including remixes that would play perfectly fine with slayer and a good amount with ctf. Maybe I need to play team skirm more often but it seems to have been the same maps with exclusion of orion 2.

I’ve played team arena a lot and 1/3 of maps are common. Some maps I’ve never had and some maps I’ve only had 3-5 times.

If some one could tell me every map in team arena I could give quite precise estimates. (I have a pretty good long term memory but funnily a bad short term memory)

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> Dude there’s like 5 gamemodes for SWAT. I think you’re just getting unlucky for CTF. If you want a ton of variety, play team Skirmish. Team skirmish is social so they don’t care how certain game types play on certain maps.

True, but I played a bunch a few nights ago and it was like H1 SWAT over and over. Also Pegasus II is not as good of a map as Pegasus.