Not enough content on launch could cost 343

BEFORE YOU FLAME ME -

Just to clarify - I love Halo 5, and I believe it has the potential, with a few updates, to be nearly as good as Halo 3. If Forge works well and BTB is good, then it should be an awesome experience.

However, I don’t believe that Arena and Warzone were enough at launch to keep a lot of people playing.

Warzone just isn’t that fun, and Arena has no social playlists so casuals are automatically frightened away.

There’s no forge, few people playing custom games, no co-op or offline customs, no btb.

I can personally wait, but I think 343 kind of messed it up with having not enough content available at launch.

In my opinion - They should have worked to make either Forge or BTB available at launch. Without these two things, you can understand why a lot of casuals got bored easily.

What you said is basically true and I kind of mostly agree.

I’ve always played mostly Team Slayer in any Halo game, but having the others is a nice pallet cleanser…and nice breath of fresh air. It allowed me to experience a slightly different game style on different maps, and then after a few matches I’d go back to Team Slayer again.

It helped keep things feeling new and fresh for a longer period of time.

  • I’m finally now just starting to feel a bit burnt out on whatever content is available now. I still play mostly Team Slayer as I don’t enjoy Arena that much and Warzone just isn’t that fun to me.

  • BTB was always a nice change of pace and still involved tactics and strategy while being a bit more open + vehicles.

  • I love creating things so Forge is extremely appealing to me. I finally now just realize how far away Forge really is from being ours to use. I have so many ideas right now but I’ll probably forget most of them by the time Forge is released.

I’m just hoping the wait is worth it…I mean I’m pretty sure it will be, but it would also help if we got a few new maps in Team Slayer before then.

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> What you said is basically true and I kind of mostly agree.
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> I’ve always played mostly Team Slayer in any Halo game, but having the others is a nice pallet cleanser…and nice breath of fresh air. It allowed me to experience a slightly different game style on different maps, and then after a few matches I’d go back to Team Slayer again.
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> It helped keep things feeling new and fresh for a longer period of time.
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> * I’m finally now just starting to feel a bit burnt out on whatever content is available now. I still play mostly Team Slayer as I don’t enjoy Arena that much and Warzone just isn’t that fun to me.
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> * BTB was always a nice change of pace and still involved tactics and strategy while being a bit more open + vehicles.
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> * I love creating things so Forge is extremely appealing to me. I finally now just realize how far away Forge really is from being ours to use. I have so many ideas right now but I’ll probably forget most of them by the time Forge is released.
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> I’m just hoping the wait is worth it…I mean I’m pretty sure it will be, but it would also help if we got a few new maps in Team Slayer before then.

Agreed. It should be awesome eventually, but I think… 3 years and they couldn’t plan it better?

I’m pretty sure there’s going to be a surge of people starting to play in December. Just because a lot of people will be getting an Xbox for Christmas and hopefully the December Forge Update will be before Christmas to ensure those people stay playing. I’m kind of thinking a lot of changes will be made here in the next month and hopefully we’ll have some good Forge World maps added to the Arena playlists (pointing at Reach’s Forge maps). And we’ll likely see Grifball and possibly Ricochet gametypes added alongside the Forge Update.

Warzone has kept me quite busy especially trying to get all of my Loadout, Power Weapon, Vehicle, and Enemy Masteries because specific emblems are unlocked through these. But I am in a bit of an agreement with you OP. Things will continue to get better and improve and I’m happy that BTB is being added into the Arena!

You don’t deserve to be flamed! It’s sad that modern games release un-finished products now, but such is the world. But here is how I think of it, you can always add fun/casual things to do to a game with a great competitive foundation (example: Halo 3 and firefight added in ODST). You can’t add a competitive foundation to a game built around being fun/casual (example: Reach, Halo 4). Right now 343 is trying to perfect their competitive foundation, but once it’s tweaked to perfection I expect focus to switch to fun/casual stuff and/or PVE stuff and then I expect this foundation to be used for Halo 6 which should result in more things being available at launch for Halo 6 much like how Reach had everything (except good competitive gameplay of course).

Totally aggree. I have 2 days playtine in the first week because i really enjoy halo5. But i didn’t play for over a week now (almost) because i am bored if war zone and arena.

NOT ENOUGH PLAYLISTS!!!

I see it as a way to bring other players back to Halo. There’s a bunch of games releasing in a very small window. Not saying that’s a good thing to do or that it’s right, but it’s how I see it.

Needs firefight too! Or pve warzone

Oh my god you all need to be flamed. All the halo’s up to 4 came bare bones. Firefight came in ODST just to introduce it. They did the same thing Bungie did. Gave the basics and added on later. Go play some thing else if you don’t like it.

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> Oh my god you all need to be flamed. All the halo’s up to 4 came bare bones. Firefight came in ODST just to introduce it. They did the same thing Bungie did. Gave the basics and added on later. Go play some thing else if you don’t like it.

Seriously?

Did any of the games that had Forge release without it at launch?

Did any of them release without BTB at launch?

Has there ever been a halo game without split-screen? Or lan capabilities?

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> Oh my god you all need to be flamed. All the halo’s up to 4 came bare bones. Firefight came in ODST just to introduce it. They did the same thing Bungie did. Gave the basics and added on later. Go play some thing else if you don’t like it.

No they didn’t. Even before map packs…the games still had more content which is ridicilious.