Nonexistent viewers on twitch

So you’re just saying there are viewers on Twitch, which I haven’t denied, I’m just saying the numbers go down every day and they fluctuate through any given day. But you’re pretending that the stream ran strong with 150k viewers all weekend or for the entire event and that is plain false lol you’re being delusional trying to keep this argument alive.

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No I didn’t. Once again. you’re lying. I said clear as day, SUNDAY. Re-read the thread.

how is this hard to understand? THAT SUNDAY did not have 150k viewers the entire time… it reached 150 and then fell to a smaller number by the end… I WATCHED IT lol you’re crazy dude.

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Infinite is in a bad shape because 343 mishandled it from start to finish.

I don’t know where you’ve been but it did not fail because of a population issues.

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Yes it did. It did not live up to the standards of 2022. That is the problem with Halo overall.

I know the game is broken and has it’s problems and that also affected the games playerbase.

But the year is 2022. The bar has been raised. Everything is reliant on the Esports ecosystem now.

Halo failed to retain that by catering that important piece to a dead platform type.

No, dude

When Halo 5 first released, 343 started work on Halo 6 without realizing how terrible 5 was. Halfway in 6’s development, they scrapped the project in favor of Halo Infinite due to the backlash from 5. So instead of 6 years, they got 3 to work on the next title.

That entire situation was on 343. You know nothing of what actually happened and I don’t want to hear any BS about “I lied and such and such.” This came from an inside look on Infinite’s development history. The result would’ve still been the same regardless of who the game’s main audience was.

343 jumped the gun and paid for it. Simple as that.

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I’m guessing you’re an esports fan?

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Yes and a weird one at that.

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That link I dropped proves he’s incorrect, he must have his events mixed up or something… I’m sure a new argument will come of this.

I was just trying to say, the Events start off with high viewers(100k) then as the day goes on and prizes are claimed and people get bored, the viewers drop to a lower number(49K in the case of HCS Kansas). Only when the final championship match comes at the end of the Event does the viewers start going back up. I mean this is good, but this doesn’t tell us anything important about Halo Infinite… it only tells us about eSports and Twitch viewers.

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The Halo stream was sitting at 12k+. 4k early in the stream and 9.7k about mid way. 12k+ at 3/4 way through the stream. Nobody really watches the HCS channel. Everyone was on the Halo channel

I was watching both channels, as at one point my per cent thingy wasn’t going up for my twitch drops so I was tinkering with both.

Refreshing the page helped!

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Fortnite appeals to the casual audience and both those games are much further in their seasons. Meaning more content complete and a better content flow

Halo’s too niche to appeal to a broader audience.

But hey, at least Halo fans are happy.

how do 343 advertise?

Why would I want to watch people run around the same boring maps that I’ve already played a thousand times? There’s nothing interesting they could possibly do on any of these maps that hasn’t been done a million times already. The sandbox physics don’t allow much room for creative plays. I don’t feel like watching a bunch of random people shoot each other with BRs for two hours. I could watch literally anybody else do that by actually playing the game.

People don’t want to accept this, but it is the truth.

Arena-style games are extremely boring to watch for the modern audience. They’re not like we were back in the old days of CE, Halo 2, Quake, DOOM, Halo 3 etc. where we got enjoyment and fun out of the sheer competition present. And the fun of Arena-style shooters mostly came from being the one playing, not watching.

Modern audiences want to be entertained by action, spontaneous and unexpected things or crazy antics. They want that extremely high tension of the final circles or something like you find in the last minute of a Siege match. Something Arena shooters don’t deliver.

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i refuse to support anything on twitch or any streamer on any platform. but if i did, i certainly wouldn’t support anybody having anything to do with infinite. infinite deserves no recognition in any form at this point. every aspect of this game is somehow terrible.

It seems 343 only do a small part of advertisements for HCS, on Twitter, Waypoint etc. The eSports league, Twitch and a lot of players in the event do most of the advertising on all sorts of media sites. Usually, telling people free exclusive Drops are available while watching said stream will be enough to bring some players back, especially if they feel Infinite is lacking in content.

OH! You’re almost there. Does this count for all platforms or just twitch?

The biggest reason it’s failing is that is it behind on the times. No matter what you say we can see how the industry works today.

If you don’t have big names playing the games on the most important platform, with that platform being the focus on it’s mainstage, the game is going to fail. Halo with it’s issues would still be thriving today if there was an incentive for the PC community to be playing it, but there isn’t because it’s impossible for them to compete at the upper echelon of the game

If the game was more like Apex where both console and PC players can co-exist and compete with one another, we wouldn’t be in this slump.