No VIP, No Race, No Assault, No Jug. Why?

Games Other Halo
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I’m not even that frustrated that these gametypes are gone anymore. I have fully accepted that 343 doesn’t care about custom gamers. It was pretty easy to do considering Bungie didn’t either.

What I want to know is why.

Why were Race, Assault, and Juggernaut removed? For what purpose? Juggernaut has been with Halo since Halo 1, and Assault since Halo 2. Race was hugely popular in Halo 3 and Halo Reach. VIP was lesser-known, but it was hugely influential and useful in Halo 3 and we were sad to see it go in Reach.

I just want to know why. Why, 343? Why did you remove these gametypes? What purpose did it serve giving us less options and variety? Why would you gut an entire community (Race)?

It’s truly baffling that a developer could be so blind towards a section of its community.

So at the very damn least… Tell us why, 343.

Tell. Us. Why.

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they said they will try to bring them into the game asap i beleive someone posted this earlyier

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> they said they will try to bring them into the game asap i beleive someone posted this earlyier

That article said nothing specific and was most likely not referring to gametypes.

Until I hear it straight from the horses mouth: “We are bringing back old gametypes”, then my point stands.

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They are probably still working on implementing it into the game. 4 is pretty different compare to the rest of the Halos

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There are way too many confusing game types in reach. This is better. And race will live on I promise. The community will think of something.

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> They are probably still working on implementing it into the game. 4 is pretty different compare to the rest of the Halos

Then that can be their reason.

They could just come out and say “Sorry guys, we didn’t have time. We’ll get it to you ASAP!”.

Which is exactly what I’m asking for: Why? A reason. An explanation. A solution.

Anything. Anything but silence.

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> > they said they will try to bring them into the game asap i beleive someone posted this earlyier
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> That article said nothing specific and was most likely not referring to gametypes.
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> Until I hear it straight from the horses mouth: “We are bringing back old gametypes”, then my point stands.

Paitence there is no sense in discussing this at this time, if 343 does plan on releasing more gametypes then I’m sure they won’t talk about it right away.

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> > > they said they will try to bring them into the game asap i beleive someone posted this earlyier
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> > That article said nothing specific and was most likely not referring to gametypes.
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> > Until I hear it straight from the horses mouth: “We are bringing back old gametypes”, then my point stands.
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> Paitence there is no sense in discussing this at this time, if 343 does plan on releasing more gametypes then I’m sure they won’t talk about it right away.

Ace has the right idea.

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> > > they said they will try to bring them into the game asap i beleive someone posted this earlyier
> >
> > That article said nothing specific and was most likely not referring to gametypes.
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> > Until I hear it straight from the horses mouth: “We are bringing back old gametypes”, then my point stands.
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> Paitence there is no sense in discussing this at this time, if 343 does plan on releasing more gametypes then I’m sure they won’t talk about it right away.

Why not? Why leave a whole entire community just hanging on a thread? Competitives got their answer on a ranking system. Forgers got their info on Forge. Casual players basically got catered to throughout the entire hype machine. Even machinimakers got information on weapon lowering.

So why the silence on custom gamers?

My guess is that they have nothing good to say so they’re staying quiet about it.

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> There are way too many confusing game types in reach. This is better. And race will live on I promise. The community will think of something.

Confusing how?

I’m bummed assault is gone. But it’s not like they can’t bring it back. Launch gametypes always get changed up and tweaked.

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> I’m not even that frustrated that these gametypes are gone anymore. I have fully accepted that 343 doesn’t care about custom gamers. It was pretty easy to do considering Bungie didn’t either.
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> What I want to know is why.
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> Why were Race, Assault, and Juggernaut removed? For what purpose? Juggernaut has been with Halo since Halo 1, and Assault since Halo 2. Race was hugely popular in Halo 3 and Halo Reach. VIP was lesser-known, but it was hugely influential and useful in Halo 3 and we were sad to see it go in Reach.
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> I just want to know why. Why, 343? Why did you remove these gametypes? What purpose did it serve giving us less options and variety? Why would you gut an entire community (Race)?
>
> It’s truly baffling that a developer could be so blind towards a section of its community.
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> So at the very damn least… Tell us why, 343.
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> Tell. Us. <mark>Why.</mark>

Why? Cause people complain too much.

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> so we’re going to have lots of returning favorites come back post launch.

Is that clear enough for you?

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> > so we’re going to have lots of returning favorites come back post launch.
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> http://www.forbes.com/sites/johngaudiosi/2012/10/31/343-industries-kevin-franklin-explains-how-halo-4-was-designed-for-esports/
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> Is that clear enough for you?

That doesn’t mean -Yoink-!

How do you interpret that to say “We’re bringing gametypes back”. All that’s saying is that they’re bringing back “something”. Returning favorites could mean armors, maps, playlists, and yes gametypes BUT NOTHING SPECIFIC.

It’s not clear. It’s not definite. It’s not a satisfactory answer.

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> > > so we’re going to have lots of returning favorites come back post launch.
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> > http://www.forbes.com/sites/johngaudiosi/2012/10/31/343-industries-kevin-franklin-explains-how-halo-4-was-designed-for-esports/
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> > Is that clear enough for you?
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> That doesn’t mean Yoink!!
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> How do you interpret that to say “We’re bringing gametypes back”. All that’s saying is that they’re bringing back “something”. Returning favorites could mean armors, maps, playlists, and yes gametypes BUT NOTHING SPECIFIC.
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> It’s not clear. It’s not definite. It’s not a satisfactory answer.

We already know bringing in new weapons, armour and that kind of stuff isn’t possible with Halo due to the whole .map situation.

With a gametype script engine, it is entirely possible.

That quote from Kevin Franklin is better than nothing.

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> That quote from Kevin Franklin is better than nothing.

But it’s not proof. It’s not a definite and clear answer.

It’s certainly not a guarantee that we’ll see VIP, Assault, Juggernaut, and Race return in Halo 4.

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We’re probably never going to get one.

Just like why Bungie removed Dual Wielding and never told us.

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> We’re probably never going to get one.
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> Just like why Bungie removed Dual Wielding and never told us.

I’m hoping 343 are better people than Bungie. They may not care enough to give us what we want, but they might be decent enough to give us a reason.

Bungie were truly a bunch of cold-hearted -Yoinks!-. That much was evident with Reach and their handling of the game post-launch. 343 seems like they’re a little more human.

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> >
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> We’re probably never going to get one.
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> Just like why Bungie removed Dual Wielding and never told us.

Oh no, they made a BIG deal about it. It’s even in one of the Vidocs

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They could have you download game types. Insane wasn’t a starting game type.

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Yeah well that “Returning favourites” cannot mean anything else but gametypes. It may also refer to playlists but that isn’t something too exciting so they are not gonna do that. I am sure Race will be back, as there are thousands of possibilites with the new forge and race gametype. And if they wont, which is very unlikely, we could do something similar using King of The hill. I have very much faith in 343 and I believe they won’t dissapoint us. <don’t blame my english as I am not from an english speaking contry>