> > > > > > > > > > Being cast in the role of super soldiers sprint is a necessity.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Promethean Vision & Jetpack = Lock them away until the end of time.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I hate this -Yoinking!- argument. Realism should not dictate gameplay. If that were the case though you would still be wrong. Spartans would be able to run fast with their guns up all the time, which is the original style of movement.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > It helps create lots of good custom maps and helps in campaign. This you cant deny. Also it can work with maps like monolith and haven which shows that both modern and old map design work with sprint. Old maps however wont work with it as well since they arent designed with it in mind. It works and besides if they have a classic/modern split it would really affect you all that much.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > If sprint is going to return we should be able to keep our guns up while we do so, and also be able to sprint forever. That is the only way It would work.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > That would cause a problem all the people who hate sprint dont want, its been suggested before in the early halo 4 section. It would ruin the game and everyone would sprint since there is no limitation in exchange of the speed.
> > > > >
> > > > > Well, what problems would it cause?
> > > >
> > > > People running around at insane speeds and being able to shoot, and there is no sacrifice in exchange for the speed which is needed.
> > >
> > > Well, let’s see, the maps would be bigger so that speed would be accommodated for. Next, everyone would be able to sprint and shoot, so running away is no longer a problem. The speed doesn’t really need to have a trade off, as long as it doesn’t cause problems it’s not that bad. The combat would be fast paced and flow better. The only two problems with this are, the randomness of it, and the fact that it’s still a gimmick. Having a fast base speed and smaller maps does the same thing, but it’s much more consistent, which is why I only want this to be in single player modes and not multiplayer.
> >
> > Yes but it makes normal movement almost meaningless. i wouldnt mind if sprint was removed. One solution to the runaway problem would be to increase damage taken when running.
>
> In multiplayer this would be just a gimmick. In campaign it’s just based on player choice, which is ultimately the point. The sad truth is that this is the best we could get with sprint IMO. Even then it’s still not needed.
True sprint is both good and bad. They could improve it in anyway possible and it would still not work. Actually they could make it so that you can fire pistols and one handed weapons whilst sprinting with a huge drop in accuracy. That may work. If not then Ill live with it leaving.
> > You guys are so stupid its not even funny.
> >
> > your idea blows. IT WILL NOT WORK.
> >
> > All you keep telling me is to try it different, but what the hell is the point when it didn’t work the first two times (reach and halo 4).
>
> One if you cant prove why other than by using insults I suggest that you leave. One it has NOT and I repeat NOT, NOT, and NEVER been done before in this way. For example say if the solution was to kill a man, and the classic playlist represented me shooting him in the leg, why shouldnt I try a different approach hence shoot him in the head which would work?
>
> Just look at our idea prove how it wouldnt work and see how its different. Can you just do that???
Vacha, You still haven’t proven your point. Just because it didn’t work the first two times doesn’t mean few shouldn’t keep trying. Wanna try again big guy?
Same for you buddy. Your not even giving an idea, your just saying that they need to do it different by caring for both sides equally. Well no -Yoink-. How am i suppose to tell how something isnt going to work when i dont even know what the hell it is your talking about.
My reasons are that in the past, it did not work, so there is no point in trying it agian but only different. BECAUSE THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT YOUR ARE TELLING ME, just to try it different.
> > > > > > > > > > > Being cast in the role of super soldiers sprint is a necessity.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Promethean Vision & Jetpack = Lock them away until the end of time.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I hate this -Yoinking!- argument. Realism should not dictate gameplay. If that were the case though you would still be wrong. Spartans would be able to run fast with their guns up all the time, which is the original style of movement.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > It helps create lots of good custom maps and helps in campaign. This you cant deny. Also it can work with maps like monolith and haven which shows that both modern and old map design work with sprint. Old maps however wont work with it as well since they arent designed with it in mind. It works and besides if they have a classic/modern split it would really affect you all that much.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > If sprint is going to return we should be able to keep our guns up while we do so, and also be able to sprint forever. That is the only way It would work.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > That would cause a problem all the people who hate sprint dont want, its been suggested before in the early halo 4 section. It would ruin the game and everyone would sprint since there is no limitation in exchange of the speed.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Well, what problems would it cause?
> > > > >
> > > > > People running around at insane speeds and being able to shoot, and there is no sacrifice in exchange for the speed which is needed.
> > > >
> > > > Well, let’s see, the maps would be bigger so that speed would be accommodated for. Next, everyone would be able to sprint and shoot, so running away is no longer a problem. The speed doesn’t really need to have a trade off, as long as it doesn’t cause problems it’s not that bad. The combat would be fast paced and flow better. The only two problems with this are, the randomness of it, and the fact that it’s still a gimmick. Having a fast base speed and smaller maps does the same thing, but it’s much more consistent, which is why I only want this to be in single player modes and not multiplayer.
> > >
> > > Yes but it makes normal movement almost meaningless. i wouldnt mind if sprint was removed. One solution to the runaway problem would be to increase damage taken when running.
> >
> > In multiplayer this would be just a gimmick. In campaign it’s just based on player choice, which is ultimately the point. The sad truth is that this is the best we could get with sprint IMO. Even then it’s still not needed.
>
> True sprint is both good and bad. They could improve it in anyway possible and it would still not work. Actually they could make it so that you can fire pistols and one handed weapons whilst sprinting with a huge drop in accuracy. That may work. If not then Ill live with it leaving.
I agree, the best thing is for it to ultimately be scrapped.
> Same for you buddy. Your not even giving an idea, your just saying that they need to do it different by caring for both sides equally. Well no Yoink!. How am i suppose to tell how something isnt going to work when i dont even know what the hell it is your talking about.
>
> My reasons are that in the past, it did not work, so there is no point in trying it agian but only different. BECAUSE THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT YOUR ARE TELLING ME, just to try it different.
Yes beacuse I explained that instead of one playlist its the entire multiplayer split into three different things similar to ranked and social: modern, classic, competitive.
The reason I havnt explained it other than most of my other posts is beacuse you either dont read them due to stubborness of not accepting it, or you dont understand it.
Also if had noticed Ive given my idea numerous times
> Same for you buddy. Your not even giving an idea, your just saying that they need to do it different by caring for both sides equally. Well no Yoink!. How am i suppose to tell how something isnt going to work when i dont even know what the hell it is your talking about.
>
> My reasons are that in the past, it did not work, so there is no point in trying it agian but only different. BECAUSE THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT YOUR ARE TELLING ME, just to try it different.
Actually I did. Take the time to read and you will find out. Your logic so flawed its laughable. So it didn’t work in the past. That doesn’t warrant it not being tried differently now. It is exactly what your saying it is, the past. Focus on how to better the future and we will actually get -Yoink- done.
> > Same for you buddy. Your not even giving an idea, your just saying that they need to do it different by caring for both sides equally. Well no Yoink!. How am i suppose to tell how something isnt going to work when i dont even know what the hell it is your talking about.
> >
> > My reasons are that in the past, it did not work, so there is no point in trying it agian but only different. BECAUSE THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT YOUR ARE TELLING ME, just to try it different.
>
> Yes beacuse I explained that instead of one playlist its the entire multiplayer split into three different things similar to ranked and social: modern, classic, competitive.
>
> The reason I havnt explained it other than most of my other posts is beacuse you either dont read them due to stubborness of not accepting it, or you dont understand it.
>
> Also if had noticed Ive given my idea numerous times
You never said that once…
> > > Same for you buddy. Your not even giving an idea, your just saying that they need to do it different by caring for both sides equally. Well no Yoink!. How am i suppose to tell how something isnt going to work when i dont even know what the hell it is your talking about.
> > >
> > > My reasons are that in the past, it did not work, so there is no point in trying it agian but only different. BECAUSE THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT YOUR ARE TELLING ME, just to try it different.
> >
> > Yes beacuse I explained that instead of one playlist its the entire multiplayer split into three different things similar to ranked and social: modern, classic, competitive.
> >
> > The reason I havnt explained it other than most of my other posts is beacuse you either dont read them due to stubborness of not accepting it, or you dont understand it.
> >
> > Also if had noticed Ive given my idea numerous times
>
> You never said that once…
Hahahahahahahahaha!
> > > Same for you buddy. Your not even giving an idea, your just saying that they need to do it different by caring for both sides equally. Well no Yoink!. How am i suppose to tell how something isnt going to work when i dont even know what the hell it is your talking about.
> > >
> > > My reasons are that in the past, it did not work, so there is no point in trying it agian but only different. BECAUSE THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT YOUR ARE TELLING ME, just to try it different.
> >
> > Yes beacuse I explained that instead of one playlist its the entire multiplayer split into three different things similar to ranked and social: modern, classic, competitive.
> >
> > The reason I havnt explained it other than most of my other posts is beacuse you either dont read them due to stubborness of not accepting it, or you dont understand it.
> >
> > Also if had noticed Ive given my idea numerous times
>
> You never said that once…
I never said it in that way I said that the multiplayer could be split into classic and modern which is basically what I just said. See you’ve got no proof of why it hasnt worked your focusing purely on me not explaining it in that way.
> > > > Same for you buddy. Your not even giving an idea, your just saying that they need to do it different by caring for both sides equally. Well no Yoink!. How am i suppose to tell how something isnt going to work when i dont even know what the hell it is your talking about.
> > > >
> > > > My reasons are that in the past, it did not work, so there is no point in trying it agian but only different. BECAUSE THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT YOUR ARE TELLING ME, just to try it different.
> > >
> > > Yes beacuse I explained that instead of one playlist its the entire multiplayer split into three different things similar to ranked and social: modern, classic, competitive.
> > >
> > > The reason I havnt explained it other than most of my other posts is beacuse you either dont read them due to stubborness of not accepting it, or you dont understand it.
> > >
> > > Also if had noticed Ive given my idea numerous times
> >
> > You never said that once…
>
> I never said it in that way I said that the multiplayer could be split into classic and modern which is basically what I just said. See you’ve got no proof of why it hasnt worked your focusing purely on me not explaining it in that way.
Splitting the multiplayer into modern and classic can mean numerous thing. It can be just like halo reach did it or just like halo 4 did it. It can also be like you suggested with three playlist catering to both sides as well as competitive play. What was I suppose to read your mind? Do not be mad at me because you were not clear with your idea.
It was only annoying to argue with you because you repeated the same thing over and over. That they need to do it different by caring for both sides while I was trying to explain they have tried that already while clearly giving plenty of reason why it would not work using out side sources as examples for you to keep repeating yourself and denying my idea. Through continuously denying my idea even though I gave reason you didn’t even give your own idea or why it would work, and then you tell me I haven’t given any reason to why it would work. Go back and read the comments please.
> > > > > Same for you buddy. Your not even giving an idea, your just saying that they need to do it different by caring for both sides equally. Well no Yoink!. How am i suppose to tell how something isnt going to work when i dont even know what the hell it is your talking about.
> > > > >
> > > > > My reasons are that in the past, it did not work, so there is no point in trying it agian but only different. BECAUSE THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT YOUR ARE TELLING ME, just to try it different.
> > > >
> > > > Yes beacuse I explained that instead of one playlist its the entire multiplayer split into three different things similar to ranked and social: modern, classic, competitive.
> > > >
> > > > The reason I havnt explained it other than most of my other posts is beacuse you either dont read them due to stubborness of not accepting it, or you dont understand it.
> > > >
> > > > Also if had noticed Ive given my idea numerous times
> > >
> > > You never said that once…
> >
> > I never said it in that way I said that the multiplayer could be split into classic and modern which is basically what I just said. See you’ve got no proof of why it hasnt worked your focusing purely on me not explaining it in that way.
>
> Splitting the multiplayer into modern and classic can mean numerous thing. It can be just like halo reach did it or just like halo 4 did it. It can also be like you suggested with three playlist catering to both sides as well as competitive play. What was I suppose to read your mind? Do not be mad at me because you were not clear with your idea.
>
> It was only annoying to argue with you because you repeated the same thing over and over. That they need to do it different by caring for both sides while I was trying to explain they have tried that already while clearly giving plenty of reason why it would not work using out side sources as examples for you to keep repeating yourself and denying my idea. Through continuously denying my idea even though I gave reason you didn’t even give your own idea or why it would work, and then you tell me I haven’t given any reason to why it would work. Go back and read the comments please.
In the end it doesn’t matter. If your logic is flawed then your idea is. Plain and simple.
> > > > > Same for you buddy. Your not even giving an idea, your just saying that they need to do it different by caring for both sides equally. Well no Yoink!. How am i suppose to tell how something isnt going to work when i dont even know what the hell it is your talking about.
> > > > >
> > > > > My reasons are that in the past, it did not work, so there is no point in trying it agian but only different. BECAUSE THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT YOUR ARE TELLING ME, just to try it different.
> > > >
> > > > Yes beacuse I explained that instead of one playlist its the entire multiplayer split into three different things similar to ranked and social: modern, classic, competitive.
> > > >
> > > > The reason I havnt explained it other than most of my other posts is beacuse you either dont read them due to stubborness of not accepting it, or you dont understand it.
> > > >
> > > > Also if had noticed Ive given my idea numerous times
> > >
> > > You never said that once…
> >
> > I never said it in that way I said that the multiplayer could be split into classic and modern which is basically what I just said. See you’ve got no proof of why it hasnt worked your focusing purely on me not explaining it in that way.
>
> Splitting the multiplayer into modern and classic can mean numerous thing. It can be just like halo reach did it or just like halo 4 did it. It can also be like you suggested with three playlist catering to both sides as well as competitive play. What was I suppose to read your mind? Do not be mad at me because you were not clear with your idea.
>
> It was only annoying to argue with you because you repeated the same thing over and over. That they need to do it different by caring for both sides while I was trying to explain they have tried that already while clearly giving plenty of reason why it would not work using out side sources as examples for you to keep repeating yourself and denying my idea. Through continuously denying my idea even though I gave reason you didn’t even give your own idea or why it would work, and then you tell me I haven’t given any reason to why it would work. Go back and read the comments please.
The reason Im repeating is because you havnt argued against the entire multiplayer being split and onky oroving why the single playlist idea doesnt work which we said that we agreed on and said why it didnt work. What youve said against it working to Ive responded to about how it would still work despite what you said.
To make it clear as glass heres what I mean for the fourth time
Classic:
Slayer
BTB
Oddball
KOTH
CTF
Etc.
Modern:
Slayer
BTB
Oddball
KOTH
CTF
Etc.
Competitive:
Slayer
BTB
MLG
Objective
> > > > > > Same for you buddy. Your not even giving an idea, your just saying that they need to do it different by caring for both sides equally. Well no Yoink!. How am i suppose to tell how something isnt going to work when i dont even know what the hell it is your talking about.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > My reasons are that in the past, it did not work, so there is no point in trying it agian but only different. BECAUSE THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT YOUR ARE TELLING ME, just to try it different.
> > > > >
> > > > > Yes beacuse I explained that instead of one playlist its the entire multiplayer split into three different things similar to ranked and social: modern, classic, competitive.
> > > > >
> > > > > The reason I havnt explained it other than most of my other posts is beacuse you either dont read them due to stubborness of not accepting it, or you dont understand it.
> > > > >
> > > > > Also if had noticed Ive given my idea numerous times
> > > >
> > > > You never said that once…
> > >
> > > I never said it in that way I said that the multiplayer could be split into classic and modern which is basically what I just said. See you’ve got no proof of why it hasnt worked your focusing purely on me not explaining it in that way.
> >
> > Splitting the multiplayer into modern and classic can mean numerous thing. It can be just like halo reach did it or just like halo 4 did it. It can also be like you suggested with three playlist catering to both sides as well as competitive play. What was I suppose to read your mind? Do not be mad at me because you were not clear with your idea.
> >
> > It was only annoying to argue with you because you repeated the same thing over and over. That they need to do it different by caring for both sides while I was trying to explain they have tried that already while clearly giving plenty of reason why it would not work using out side sources as examples for you to keep repeating yourself and denying my idea. Through continuously denying my idea even though I gave reason you didn’t even give your own idea or why it would work, and then you tell me I haven’t given any reason to why it would work. Go back and read the comments please.
>
> The reason Im repeating is because you havnt argued against the entire multiplayer being split and onky oroving why the single playlist idea doesnt work which we said that we agreed on and said why it didnt work. What youve said against it working to Ive responded to about how it would still work despite what you said.
>
> To make it clear as glass heres what I mean for the fourth time
>
> Classic:
> Slayer
> BTB
> Oddball
> KOTH
> CTF
> Etc.
>
> Modern:
> Slayer
> BTB
> Oddball
> KOTH
> CTF
> Etc.
>
> Competitive:
> Slayer
> BTB
> MLG
> Objective
You stating a modern/classic split was no different from what they did in halo 4. When I said it didn’t work before and would work again all you told me was that they did it wrong and they need to cater to both sides, not a playlist split between competitive modern and classic. It’s your fault you did not come across clearly with your ideas, not mine. I fully understand your idea of having the different playlists, and would you have said that sooner, I would have agreed with your idea and that it could very well work. Don’t try and change what you previously said, cause not once, did you ever, come close the mentioning of three separate playlists. In fact you denied my reasoning when I said “they would split it into playlists of Competitive modern, Social modern, competitive classic, and social classic and that it would make no sense.” You said they didn’t have to create separate playlists like that, and continued to deny my reasoning without giving any of your own.
Nevertheless. If they do end up with a multiplayer playlist split (modern,classic) They need to be both sprint or no sprint, it would make no sense otherwise. I could care less weather there is sprint or not, personally I would prefer no sprint, but I do not want to switch from one playlist that has sprint to one the does not.
I don’t think Armour abilities matter too much. I think if we do see a playlist split, im sure classic will have no armour abilities and modern will.
> > > > > > > Same for you buddy. Your not even giving an idea, your just saying that they need to do it different by caring for both sides equally. Well no Yoink!. How am i suppose to tell how something isnt going to work when i dont even know what the hell it is your talking about.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > My reasons are that in the past, it did not work, so there is no point in trying it agian but only different. BECAUSE THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT YOUR ARE TELLING ME, just to try it different.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Yes beacuse I explained that instead of one playlist its the entire multiplayer split into three different things similar to ranked and social: modern, classic, competitive.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The reason I havnt explained it other than most of my other posts is beacuse you either dont read them due to stubborness of not accepting it, or you dont understand it.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Also if had noticed Ive given my idea numerous times
> > > > >
> > > > > You never said that once…
> > > >
> > > > I never said it in that way I said that the multiplayer could be split into classic and modern which is basically what I just said. See you’ve got no proof of why it hasnt worked your focusing purely on me not explaining it in that way.
> > >
> > > Splitting the multiplayer into modern and classic can mean numerous thing. It can be just like halo reach did it or just like halo 4 did it. It can also be like you suggested with three playlist catering to both sides as well as competitive play. What was I suppose to read your mind? Do not be mad at me because you were not clear with your idea.
> > >
> > > It was only annoying to argue with you because you repeated the same thing over and over. That they need to do it different by caring for both sides while I was trying to explain they have tried that already while clearly giving plenty of reason why it would not work using out side sources as examples for you to keep repeating yourself and denying my idea. Through continuously denying my idea even though I gave reason you didn’t even give your own idea or why it would work, and then you tell me I haven’t given any reason to why it would work. Go back and read the comments please.
> >
> > The reason Im repeating is because you havnt argued against the entire multiplayer being split and onky oroving why the single playlist idea doesnt work which we said that we agreed on and said why it didnt work. What youve said against it working to Ive responded to about how it would still work despite what you said.
> >
> > To make it clear as glass heres what I mean for the fourth time
> >
> > Classic:
> > Slayer
> > BTB
> > Oddball
> > KOTH
> > CTF
> > Etc.
> >
> > Modern:
> > Slayer
> > BTB
> > Oddball
> > KOTH
> > CTF
> > Etc.
> >
> > Competitive:
> > Slayer
> > BTB
> > MLG
> > Objective
>
> You stating a modern/classic split was no different from what they did in halo 4. When I said it didn’t work before and would work again all you told me was that they did it wrong and they need to cater to both sides, not a playlist split between competitive modern and classic. It’s your fault you did not come across clearly with your ideas, not mine. I fully understand your idea of having the different playlists, and would you have said that sooner, I would have agreed with your idea and that it could very well work. Don’t try and change what you previously said, cause not once, did you ever, come close the mentioning of three separate playlists. In fact you denied my reasoning when I said “they would split it into playlists of Competitive modern, Social modern, competitive classic, and social classic and that it would make no sense.” You said they didn’t have to create separate playlists like that, and continued to deny my reasoning without giving any of your own.
OMG for yoinks sake they havnt done it before. In halo 4 they had it like this
Modern
Modern
Mordern
Classic
Modern
Modern
Etc.
The idea when I initially put it forth has been put forth many times on these forums and understood instantly . It was easy enough to understand that they would split the playlists into modern and classic which means that all the playlists must either be modern or classic. This was extremely clear. i changed it onto three playlists to include the competitive playlists which solved the problem you mentioned with the playlists having to be social or classic.I did listen to you and thus altered the idea so that it would work.
I soad it didnt work in halo 4 because it wasnt the same thing which you failed to realise.
> Nevertheless. If they do end up with a multiplayer playlist split (modern,classic) They need to be both sprint or no sprint, it would make no sense otherwise. I could care less weather there is sprint or not, personally I would prefer no sprint, but I do not want to switch from one playlist that has sprint to one the does not.
>
> I don’t think Armour abilities matter too much. I think if we do see a playlist split, im sure classic will have no armour abilities and modern will.
Why do they have to be both sprint or no sprint. Lighting flag has no sprint yet people dont complain about that. The whole purpose of the divide is so that you can have classic with no sprint and modern with sprint. Thus keeping everyone happy. It wouldnt really be annoying with one having it and the other not since you’d get use to it.
> > > > > > > > Same for you buddy. Your not even giving an idea, your just saying that they need to do it different by caring for both sides equally. Well no Yoink!. How am i suppose to tell how something isnt going to work when i dont even know what the hell it is your talking about.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > My reasons are that in the past, it did not work, so there is no point in trying it agian but only different. BECAUSE THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT YOUR ARE TELLING ME, just to try it different.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Yes beacuse I explained that instead of one playlist its the entire multiplayer split into three different things similar to ranked and social: modern, classic, competitive.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The reason I havnt explained it other than most of my other posts is beacuse you either dont read them due to stubborness of not accepting it, or you dont understand it.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Also if had noticed Ive given my idea numerous times
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You never said that once…
> > > > >
> > > > > I never said it in that way I said that the multiplayer could be split into classic and modern which is basically what I just said. See you’ve got no proof of why it hasnt worked your focusing purely on me not explaining it in that way.
> > > >
> > > > Splitting the multiplayer into modern and classic can mean numerous thing. It can be just like halo reach did it or just like halo 4 did it. It can also be like you suggested with three playlist catering to both sides as well as competitive play. What was I suppose to read your mind? Do not be mad at me because you were not clear with your idea.
> > > >
> > > > It was only annoying to argue with you because you repeated the same thing over and over. That they need to do it different by caring for both sides while I was trying to explain they have tried that already while clearly giving plenty of reason why it would not work using out side sources as examples for you to keep repeating yourself and denying my idea. Through continuously denying my idea even though I gave reason you didn’t even give your own idea or why it would work, and then you tell me I haven’t given any reason to why it would work. Go back and read the comments please.
> > >
> > > The reason Im repeating is because you havnt argued against the entire multiplayer being split and onky oroving why the single playlist idea doesnt work which we said that we agreed on and said why it didnt work. What youve said against it working to Ive responded to about how it would still work despite what you said.
> > >
> > > To make it clear as glass heres what I mean for the fourth time
> > >
> > > Classic:
> > > Slayer
> > > BTB
> > > Oddball
> > > KOTH
> > > CTF
> > > Etc.
> > >
> > > Modern:
> > > Slayer
> > > BTB
> > > Oddball
> > > KOTH
> > > CTF
> > > Etc.
> > >
> > > Competitive:
> > > Slayer
> > > BTB
> > > MLG
> > > Objective
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> > You stating a modern/classic split was no different from what they did in halo 4. When I said it didn’t work before and would work again all you told me was that they did it wrong and they need to cater to both sides, not a playlist split between competitive modern and classic. It’s your fault you did not come across clearly with your ideas, not mine. I fully understand your idea of having the different playlists, and would you have said that sooner, I would have agreed with your idea and that it could very well work. Don’t try and change what you previously said, cause not once, did you ever, come close the mentioning of three separate playlists. In fact you denied my reasoning when I said “they would split it into playlists of Competitive modern, Social modern, competitive classic, and social classic and that it would make no sense.” You said they didn’t have to create separate playlists like that, and continued to deny my reasoning without giving any of your own.
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> OMG for yoinks sake they havnt done it before. In halo 4 they had it like this
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> The idea when I initially put it forth has been put forth many times on these forums and understood instantly . It was easy enough to understand that they would split the playlists into modern and classic which means that all the playlists must either be modern or classic. This was extremely clear. i changed it onto three playlists to include the competitive playlists which solved the problem you mentioned with the playlists having to be social or classic.I did listen to you and thus altered the idea so that it would work.
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> I soad it didnt work in halo 4 because it wasnt the same thing which you failed to realise.
Honestly, I understood exactly what you meant the moment you said three playlist competitive, modern, and classic. I think we are just misunderstanding eachother just a little bit, because the more we argue the more it sounds like we are on the same page. I’m done with this worthless argument, because neither of us are getting anywhere. Now can we move on to what this is really supposed to be about, sprint and armour abilities.
> > Nevertheless. If they do end up with a multiplayer playlist split (modern,classic) They need to be both sprint or no sprint, it would make no sense otherwise. I could care less weather there is sprint or not, personally I would prefer no sprint, but I do not want to switch from one playlist that has sprint to one the does not.
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> > I don’t think Armour abilities matter too much. I think if we do see a playlist split, im sure classic will have no armour abilities and modern will.
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> Why do they have to be both sprint or no sprint. Lighting flag has no sprint yet people dont complain about that. The whole purpose of the divide is so that you can have classic with no sprint and modern with sprint. Thus keeping everyone happy. It wouldnt really be annoying with one having it and the other not since you’d get use to it.
Just cause it wouldn’t make sense to be able to sprint in one playlist and not the other. And all of the halo community is on the fence about sprint so I think what ever they decide to go with really won’t matter, I’d just like to see the same fell of the game through multiplayer, campaign, and custom games.
> > Nevertheless. If they do end up with a multiplayer playlist split (modern,classic) They need to be both sprint or no sprint, it would make no sense otherwise. I could care less weather there is sprint or not, personally I would prefer no sprint, but I do not want to switch from one playlist that has sprint to one the does not.
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> > I don’t think Armour abilities matter too much. I think if we do see a playlist split, im sure classic will have no armour abilities and modern will.
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> Why do they have to be both sprint or no sprint. Lighting flag has no sprint yet people dont complain about that. The whole purpose of the divide is so that you can have classic with no sprint and modern with sprint. Thus keeping everyone happy. It wouldnt really be annoying with one having it and the other not since you’d get use to it.
The more I think about it, it should be set up to what ever the classic community wants and the modern community want, so that way more people will play the game, hence making it more competitive for people like me. I will like the game no matter what, I just want to see more people playing it and enjoying it.
> People running around at insane speeds and being able to shoot, and there is no sacrifice in exchange for the speed which is needed.
Now you see, that is what happened with the classic Arena games. There was the standard, walking speed, and then “Sprint”, a faster movement speed, but you can still do everything that you could do with the slower speed. Everyone just used the “Sprint” speed, because the slower option was worthless. With everyone using the faster speed, Arena games just had that speed, like Halo 1, 2, and 3, they already were fast, and maps were made around “that speed”.