No one wants remixes

Seriously, nobody has asked for any of these remixes and them being popped out constantly just proves 343 doesn’t really listen to the community, I have seen threads talk about how lazy and -Yoink- remakes are, and I’m one of them who agrees.

And before anyone gets on me about their whole time restraints, they had 3 or so years to work on Halo 5 and they spent that on Warzone and a shoddy Campaign that just did nothing but -Yoink- on everything about Halo.

Team Osiris isn’t interested, Vale shouldn’t be a Spartan and the way Buck became a Spartan was horse -Yoink-, on top of that, if you kill off a character like Cortana, don’t -Yoinking!- bring her back as a villain, use the guy you already had, The Didact…oh wait, 343industries has this repution of regretting a decision and snuffing it out in the next game or book, namely Escalations snuffing out Spartan Ops’ whole long -Yoink- thing we had to go through for a cliffhanger, only to find out DeMarco dies, Black Team is killed off screen and the Absolute Record was taken away because “Halsey failed the test…” really? The Librarian built up her as being the one to discover this thing and its taken away?

I seriously am questioning whether 343industries is really good for Halo, I’m sure a lot of you will agree with me on this, hell, name -Yoink- 343industries has done that was just stupid…

I want remixes. I think they’re interesting.

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> I want remixes. I think they’re interesting.

Me too. They generally look and play very differently from the originals. I dont really mind as long as some original maps keep coming as well.

I can say that remixes may not be what people are asking for and it is disappointing a lot of people. Though personally for myself I don’t mind remixes. They show up and it doesn’t bother me. If the map feels different and plays different that is enough for me personally.

However on the other hand I can agree that we should see some more original maps made on their end. While in other cases I see it fine with them including community forge maps, I actually enjoy the fact that we get to see so many community made maps. It could be seen as lazy or whatever your personal view is for them to use community maps, but if they use community maps they are allowing the community to forge how the game is updated. People are making the game they want with these maps showing up, so I can say it’s a good thing.

I did bring up another topic that had nothing to do with the main point so i apologize on that. As for Halo: Escalation I was severely disappointed in how the story went and how everything set up in halo 4 was just blown to the side. Though at the same time I understand why they would have done so, as the community, or the majority of the community detested the Didact, and Spartan Ops. Which I personally enjoyed both Ur, and Spartan Ops, but I am part of the minority in that case.

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> Seriously, nobody has asked for any of these remixes and them being popped out constantly just proves 343 doesn’t really listen to the community, I have seen threads talk about how lazy and -Yoink- remakes are, and I’m one of them who agrees.
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> And before anyone gets on me about their whole time restraints, they had 3 or so years to work on Halo 5 and they spent that on Warzone and a shoddy Campaign that just did nothing but -Yoink- on everything about Halo.
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> Team Osiris isn’t interested, Vale shouldn’t be a Spartan and the way Buck became a Spartan was horse -Yoink-, on top of that, if you kill off a character like Cortana, don’t -Yoinking!- bring her back as a villain, use the guy you already had, The Didact…oh wait, 343industries has this repution of regretting a decision and snuffing it out in the next game or book, namely Escalations snuffing out Spartan Ops’ whole long -Yoink- thing we had to go through for a cliffhanger, only to find out DeMarco dies, Black Team is killed off screen and the Absolute Record was taken away because “Halsey failed the test…” really? The Librarian built up her as being the one to discover this thing and its taken away?
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> I seriously am questioning whether 343industries is really good for Halo, I’m sure a lot of you will agree with me on this, hell, name -Yoink- 343industries has done that was just stupid…

I completely agree with you. I do not like the remixes at all, not even a little bit. I and the rest of us have yet to see one that not only manages to look fresh but also play in a tactically and versatile way.

I get that people feel the maps play differently, but the changes are just so small that its not even funny, look at Stasis for example, same basic layout of Torque save for no moving pylons, and a few areas closed off, remixes aren’t even original and that’s what bugs me, remakes are vastly different because its nostalgic to see an old map remastered, but all Halo 5 has been is nothing but lazy changes to maps…

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> I can say that remixes may not be what people are asking for and it is disappointing a lot of people. Though personally for myself I don’t mind remixes. They show up and it doesn’t bother me. If the map feels different and plays different that is enough for me personally.
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> However on the other hand I can agree that we should see some more original maps made on their end. While in other cases I see it fine with them including community forge maps, I actually enjoy the fact that we get to see so many community made maps. It could be seen as lazy or whatever your personal view is for them to use community maps, but if they use community maps they are allowing the community to forge how the game is updated. People are making the game they want with these maps showing up, so I can say it’s a good thing.
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> I did bring up another topic that had nothing to do with the main point so i apologize on that. As for Halo: Escalation I was severely disappointed in how the story went and how everything set up in halo 4 was just blown to the side. Though at the same time I understand why they would have done so, as the community, or the majority of the community detested the Didact, and Spartan Ops. Which I personally enjoyed both Ur, and Spartan Ops, but I am part of the minority in that case.

Regardless, I thank you for the post, everyone here, I appreciate what you post and respect that you may like remixes, but Halo 4 had the same amount of time worked on like Halo 5 and had a whole bunch of original maps, I’m literally jotting it down to laziness and the fact Warzone made a top priority over the rest of the game, Spartan Ops didn’t even do that

It’s weird with the whole torque/stasis thing. I personally loathed torque, I think it may still be my least favorite arena map. But I actually really enjoy stasis, the gameplay just works out better for me. I think I much prefer the skybox also, there is just too much going on in torque which I find distracting.
However I dislike eden/empire and regret/truth. And do not like having them both equally in rotation. Playing remix’s and originals over and over is really annoying.
I’m not sure as to the purpose of your post though, are you referring to molten? It does appear as a ‘The Rig’ remix but the map is vastly different in layout and by the looks of things play style also.

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> It’s weird with the whole torque/stasis thing. I personally loathed torque, I think it may still be my least favorite arena map. But I actually really enjoy stasis, the gameplay just works out better for me. I think I much prefer the skybox also, there is just too much going on in torque which I find distracting.
> However I dislike eden/empire and regret/truth. And do not like having them both equally in rotation. Playing remix’s and originals over and over is really annoying.
> I’m not sure as to the purpose of your post though, are you referring to molten? It does appear as a ‘The Rig’ remix but the map is vastly different in layout and by the looks of things play style also.

It may very well be, but regardless, 343industries has gone about saying they listen to fans, yet no Sangheili and still more remixes…

I don’t mind remixes I think they are good

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> > It’s weird with the whole torque/stasis thing. I personally loathed torque, I think it may still be my least favorite arena map. But I actually really enjoy stasis, the gameplay just works out better for me. I think I much prefer the skybox also, there is just too much going on in torque which I find distracting.
> > However I dislike eden/empire and regret/truth. And do not like having them both equally in rotation. Playing remix’s and originals over and over is really annoying.
> > I’m not sure as to the purpose of your post though, are you referring to molten? It does appear as a ‘The Rig’ remix but the map is vastly different in layout and by the looks of things play style also.
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> It may very well be, but regardless, 343industries has gone about saying they listen to fans, yet no Sangheili and still more remixes…

If you mean sanghelios they are dropping an enormous map set there tomorrow. If you mean playable elites they won’t fit into the multiplayer lore and have been confirmed to not make an appearance in h5 multiplayer long ago.

I don’t mind remixes as long as they are done well, so that they resemble the map they were patterned after, but still has it’s own uniqueness. I think 343 has done a really good job with Molten (a remix of the Rig). It feels similar to the Rig, but also very different. It plays in its own unique way. I can’t wait to play on it?

Another remix I think 343 did a good job on are probably Overgrowth (overgrown?), the remix of Plaza.

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> > > It’s weird with the whole torque/stasis thing. I personally loathed torque, I think it may still be my least favorite arena map. But I actually really enjoy stasis, the gameplay just works out better for me. I think I much prefer the skybox also, there is just too much going on in torque which I find distracting.
> > > However I dislike eden/empire and regret/truth. And do not like having them both equally in rotation. Playing remix’s and originals over and over is really annoying.
> > > I’m not sure as to the purpose of your post though, are you referring to molten? It does appear as a ‘The Rig’ remix but the map is vastly different in layout and by the looks of things play style also.
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> > It may very well be, but regardless, 343industries has gone about saying they listen to fans, yet no Sangheili and still more remixes…
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> If you mean sanghelios they are dropping an enormous map set there tomorrow. If you mean playable elites they won’t fit into the multiplayer lore and have been confirmed to not make an appearance in h5 multiplayer long ago.

Even though Multiplayer Lore states, and I quote from Halopedia itself: Anvil Station was created for the Spartan-IV program for use in training human and Sangheili forces.[2] The station consists of a large, cylindrical mid-structure featuring a command center on top. The structure is surrounded by two disk-shaped facilities, with the upper one consisting of several decks used for simulation training, and the lower one comprising of living quarters. At the lower end of the station are docking ports for transport modules. The station has a projected operational life of 250 years and in total there are 7365 humans and Sangheili working on-board.[3] How come we can have this and still no Sangheili, and some people will say, “But Halo 5’s Multiplayer is set on the Infinity.” To which I’ll reply, it didn’t need to be, Anvil Station and even Project ANVIL was a perfect staging ground to set back up Sangheili vs Spartan matches like they did in Halo 2-Reach, although for Reach, it was more of an actual event taking place then it was a simulation…although some of Reach’s multiplayer stuff did make me question if it was a simulation for Spartans or not.

I’m really thrilled for a Sangheilios based Warzone level, and that brings up another point, the bases in Warzone are also just as lazy and reused, and again, people will say, “Its so people can be familiar with the layout.” But then that means the company things we’re a bunch of slow minded kids who can’t figure out the layout of a base when we’ve been doing it since Halo CE with Chiron, and that -Yoink- was difficult.

If a map is to be set on Sangheilios, then make the damn bases Sangheili based in looks and design instead of a lazy copy and paste we’ve been seeing this entire game, even the story itself seems like its just cut and pasted in, dialogue blows and some cases, doesn’t even go anywhere, for example, Buck gets made fun of and he doesn’t retort back or anything, just walks silently, what happened to Buck from Halo 3 ODST, and don’t say he’s changed ever since Rookie died, because Buck has watched plenty more people die and he’s still able to have a sense of humor.

Or lets go with Cortana’s out of character -Yoink- she says to Team Osiris, another member on Waypoint even pointed out how out of character the whole game was for many characters…

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> I want remixes. I think they’re interesting.

I like remixes but eventually I miss the original but still want more remixes

I like the remixes that are actually remixes. But the ones that are the exact same map with a different paint pallet are bogus.

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> > It’s weird with the whole torque/stasis thing. I personally loathed torque, I think it may still be my least favorite arena map. But I actually really enjoy stasis, the gameplay just works out better for me. I think I much prefer the skybox also, there is just too much going on in torque which I find distracting.
> > However I dislike eden/empire and regret/truth. And do not like having them both equally in rotation. Playing remix’s and originals over and over is really annoying.
> > I’m not sure as to the purpose of your post though, are you referring to molten? It does appear as a ‘The Rig’ remix but the map is vastly different in layout and by the looks of things play style also.
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> It may very well be, but regardless, 343industries has gone about saying they listen to fans, yet no Sangheili and still more remixes…

They cant listen to everything the fans want. People have a lot of different opinions on things and acting on all of them is impossible. They have shown they are listening in a large number of ways. Sure its not perfect but overall the pattern bodes well for the future.

I want remixes. Quit trying to act like the people’s champion when you’re just another dude on a soap box shouting their opinion.

The only Remix that is good is this new one. Truth plays just like Regret, Eden plays like Empire, Plaza and Overgrowth (probably the worst Halo 5 map) play the same. These yoinking map remixes are awful. If they wanted to remix maps why not remix maps from previous Halo games?? Why did we get Stasis for Memories of Reach? We should of had a Sword Base or Countdown Remix for it instead. #lazy343

Fun Fact: These maps have been in development for a LONG time. While I’m not a fan of remixes, as long as the maps play differently, I really really don’t care.

Remixes can be good, I don’t really mind them. Making an original map can take months so it makes sense to give us the odd remix here and there