The DMR is a ok weapon to have but in BTB it tends to trap players and nerfs the gameplay overall. For example on meltdown there is limited room to move and the DMR pins players down with no were to go. The DMRs range is endless with high accuracy. If someone sees you first your stuck hiding behind a tiny rock. If BTB was BRs only on meltdown you would have more freedom to move around. If someone shoots you from a distance you can still push forward and challange him or you could retreat and try to flank. This would add a strategic option in BTB and make it more enjoyable for everyone.
You die almost instantly any time you go out in the open on BTB, I agree.
i’ve been saying this for weeks.
everytime i play in a party in 8 or something in BTB, eventually the conversations is switching over to something like “-Yoink- THE DMR, get that piece of -Yoink- out of this”
several of my friends even quit playing halo 4 over it.
i myself am not touching halo again until i actually see 343 making an attempt at doing something.
right now the DMR is killing BTB
That, also reduce bullet magnetism, look here…
I’d also suggest removing stickies and plasma pistol from loadouts or find a correct balance between them because the Warthog is a death trap on all maps.
I agree the that DMR’s range is absolutely ridiculous. What happened to the DMR bloom in reach? At least it forced you to either gamble and try many successive shots and hope for the best or wait a second before firing again to ensure the accuracy. I think that the DMR was great in Reach, but Halo 4 it is the only long range load out option.
I went into a custom game to try out a few things and across the map I could score 5 consecutive headshots without the target moving. The LR was the same but not as much killing power unless scoped in, and useless unscoped. The carbine was disgustingly inaccurate at long range and the BR was just as terrible with maybe 4 or 5 bullets from the 4 bursts fired, hitting the target. This is definitely showing some big problems when it comes to load out customization in medium-large maps.
all the large maps would be awsome BR only, then you could actually move around on the map, and you would have to get abit more close quarters to shoot people, which in return brings in more action and fun.
in Ragnarok, if you dominate middle hill, you can shoot people WHEREVER on the entire map.
the opposing team then ends up spawn trapped, as they just get DMR’ed into a new age from middle hill.
if it was BR only, that would not have been possible, and the team that does not hold the hill, now have a real chance to push out of spawn and get control of that hill.
bringing in alot more action across the map
I hate to say it but the DMR is just 2 powerful for the open map style of BTB and i truly believe the BR would work much better ALTHOUGH a few DMR’S on the map wouldn’t be that bad…
> I hate to say it but the DMR is just 2 powerful for the open map style of BTB and i truly believe the BR would work much better ALTHOUGH a few DMR’S on the map wouldn’t be that bad…
the DMR is strong enough to be a ordnance drop on BTB.
if you got this ordnance drop in BTB what would you choose?
needler
sticky launcher
speed bost
plasma grenades
Pulse grenades
railgun
SAW
DMR
it’s like a semi automatic sniper.
if everyone else had BR and was fighting relatively close quarters i would have taken the DMR 100% and picked people fighting off from a distance easily.
The DMR is a perfect weapon. and the only reason you people are complaining about it is because you run out in the open all the damn time. Would you rather people use the light rifle which is the most powerful loadout rifle? BR/DMR takes about 5 headshots to kill. the Lightrifle takes 4. Stop complaining because you suck.
Might as well make it AR only. I don’t have a problem with any of the equipment we are able to start with except the Boltshot. I’m tired of people camo camping or sitting behind a wall using promethean vision and popping out and 1 shotting me on every game mode. I mean it gets to me but I won’t cry for them to remove it as starting equipment. This is a pretty solid game all it needs is a couple of balance changes, they don’t need to take anything out entirely.
> The DMR is a perfect weapon. and the only reason you people are complaining about it is because you run out in the open all the damn time. Would you rather people use the light rifle which is the most powerful loadout rifle? BR/DMR takes about 5 headshots to kill. the Lightrifle takes 4. Stop complaining because you suck.
were complaining because we cant run out in the open ANYWHERE on the map.
you just suck so bad that everytime you see someone complain about your precious bullet magnetism aim assisted god mode noob gun you are affraid they’re gonna nerf it making it so you would not be able to get those kills even a poo flinging monkey could get.
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The BR will make the game more challanging. there are less tham 25,000 people in PvP on H4. Some Thing NEEDS to be done to bring people back. I would LOVE the BR in BTB. It would be so much more fun.
Only 25k? Maybe at this hour. The average is over 100k whenever I’m on and browsing playlists.
If you’re getting killed by DMR too much, it’s because you’re going out into the open like stupid. Move from one cover to another and don’t let more than one person shoot at you at the same time.
> If you’re getting killed by DMR too much, it’s because you’re going out into the open like stupid. Move from one cover to another and don’t let more than one person shoot at you at the same time.
this isn’t about getting shot in the open.
ANYONE can do what you say, ANYONE.
this is about the DMR completely limiting the game to what you are saying now.
> You die almost instantly any time you go out in the open on BTB, I agree.
Well play smart then and dont go out in the open.
The DMR cannot be specifically removed in a loadout used, select maps versus other maps, scenario.
As for nerfing it, its possible with title updates in the future, but currently? The DMR is fine for those are proficient with it…
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They can make BTB a BR start only playlist.
I wonder how they’d go by taking out the option to loadout with a dmr.
Maybe they’d disable loadouts with dmr in them? They could take out dmr as a loadout entirely [but I’d prefer they take out boltshot]. Or they could just disable loadouts altogether and have default loadouts like in slayer pro.
But I’m all up for BR starts in BTB. It takes more skill to use a BR which in turn makes the game more competitive but that’s just my opinion.
Nerf DMR and people get Light Rifle… Problem is magnetic bullets, now a monkey can hit a long headshot.
And magnetic bullets isnt self for a guy have host or 100Mb that a guy with 5-10Mb now is more important have a power internet than skill.
Its important why: bullet magnetism + no regional filter= Quit game.
I not understand the 343i way, game needs evolve says… And get COD way the FPS with more garbage in XBL… Air strikes in H5?? Pfff…
I hope can understand me guys im from Spain and my english is… a lol. Sorry faults. 