No, I don’t. Everyone can like the Bungie Halo games more and that’s totally valid. I’m literally only arguing against the revisionist nonsense that the community was all united in consistent praise each time Bungie released a Halo game. They weren’t.
My argument isn’t that people don’t lump the first 3 Halos together. My argument is that people like you are looking back on the first three Halos with rose tinted nostalgia glasses. You repeat over and over that Halo Infinite “split the community” while ignoring any previous launch that had the community split over a new Halo game.
This is such a vague argument that it can’t really be substantiated with anything objective. What is the “common design philosophy” that literally every gameplay feature stems from?
but on that 6k posts thread about it are some thing’s always the same there keep telling more why there not like it more.
like: that there cant shoot and walk fast the same time.
or there not feel it any more as classic any more for then.
its becoming more like cod.
that halo most become on the top again.
and the list go’s on with more reasons.
i see sprint more as that you need to think more before you going to take action in each match more.
since if its smart to sprint now or not.
and then you have the diffrend between enemy AI’s like elite’s with energy swords that sprint to you.
or grunt’s with there Suicide attack are running to you with sprint.
same with the brute’s that going beserk in halo 3.
but a spartan cant do it at all.
same with the marine’s are all sprinting but the spartan cant do it all.
that are things that look more wierd if you think about it more.
and i am happy with the halo 4 and halo 5 sprint got no problems with it.
well yeah, thats the point of sprint. it makes you faster but you lose bein able to shoot
games gotta evolve, cant always been the same basic gameplay
yeah no
i agree
i love how people constantly put “missed the point” on peoples posts about sprint when they literally dont even have a point lmao. they just say “sprint bad” and thats their whole argument
Dude. Stop. It’s like you just keep missing the point on purpose. I’m not talking about what makes the original trilogy different from the 343 games. Stick to your own argument. You keep saying over and over on this forum that Halo Infinite “split the community.” I’m saying that each time a Halo game came out, even the ones that you hold up as god-tier, the community was still split. My argument is that you’re deliberately ignoring that the community was split when Halo 2 came out.
There were a large number of people that hated Halo 2 when it came out. I’m sure I’m not the only person that remembers the “Halo2Sucks” website, right? You can still find the old archive that has the exact same types of complaints that everyone makes about Halo Infinite.
Still waiting on you to very succinctly tell me the exact “common design philosophy” verbatim that Bungie used for Halo 1 through 3 that influenced every design decision and feature.
And like I mentioned above, when Halo 2 came out the “community was split” and made an entire website about how Halo 2 sucked and Bungie needed to change the whole game to make it like Halo CE.
yeah they have? you can say “ignore 2042” all you want, still doesnt change the fact it happened. regardless cods gameplays always had more goin on than halos gameplay, weapon customization, killstreaks, etc. halo is probably the most basic arena shooter out there in terms of gameplay
cod also had advanced movement
4 aint reach. besides sprint aint even the only reason people act as if 4 was like cod
aint talkin about those threads, talkin about people here. im not gonna go through a 6k thread just cause maybe one guy has a point. aint my fault you dont have any points my dude
COD plays the same as it did years ago, Halo does not. COD did not completely reinvent itself to appeal to other games’s fans. Halo did. Halo is meant to be simple, that was it’s biggest strength.
And the reasons for saying sprint bad are easily summed up by going into those threads, do some research.
Loadouts, Bloom, lack of bleedthrough and sandbox changes for the worse.
False, simple in that starting abilities are simple and the sandbox itself allows complexity and depth through it’s interactions. Every game after Reach has failed in this regard.
That’s fine, I’m not going to write a paragraph for someone to lacks the cognitive depth to do a tad bit of research or think about how the ability to randomly increase movement speed at any time could possibly impact the games design.
Can you prove that? Because the Halo 2 community was so incensed about everything related to that game. Story, gameplay, multiplayer… Literally the whole game split the community really hard.
“b-b-but more guns equals better!!!1”
laughable, clearly a showcase of how little you know about Halo and it’s history that you revere a game with so many redundant weapons you could remove half of them and nothing would change.
The point flying
your head
That’s why you refuse to read the many threads on sprint? refuse to even remotely consider why the community at large dislikes it and why it has been repeatedly been nerfed from game to game.
This isn’t even remotely a good description of the mechanic.
There is nothing “random” about the increase to movement speed. There’s nothing “random” about this feature at all.
You cannot sprint at any time. There are specifically times when you cannot sprint. You cannot sprint while in a vehicle. You cannot sprint while in the air. You cannot sprint while grappling.
Furthermore, who gives a crap if it “impacts the games design”? Each time a new feature or weapon is added to the game, it invariably impacts everything from weapons to map layouts. For some reason though, Sprinting is a feature that you’re hyper-focused on, whereas I can use any of these arguments you’ve laid out so far (which haven’t been many) to malign any feature that’s been introduced after CE.
but they aint like cod loadouts, so it doesnt matter
okay twitter user. then again you talk like a redditor so
still doesnt explain a thing
not really? i like the dmr, needle rifle, assault rifle, magnum, pretty much every weapon in the game besides the focus rifle and plasma repeater
yknow most weapons in reach were in halo 3 too right. they share like 13 or 14 weapons. so to you most halo 3 weapons are redundant too
maybe it aint that i dunno anything about a franchise i grew up with, maybe your argument is stupid
you dont have any points dont kid yourself
i dont feel like goin to other threads over this no. i aint the guy cryin about bein able to run fast. you are. if you wanna have an argument about this, youre the guy who has to come up with your points, not me
but you probably dont have any so whatever
thats wierd.
so far i remember good has cod chance there core formula a lot off time’s.
BO4 has no campaign but replace with BR.
MW3 has remove the attachments from guns that you get then by weapon level and not by doing challange to get then.
and go on more with it the list off chance there have done to its core.
i have play a lot off cod game’s and there core has been chance a lot more then halo core.
since the core off halo is more the campaign mode and its story that is telling 1 long story.
and thats something you not see at cod titels since there tell all diffrend story’s.