No flame throwers or fire weapons in halo 4

Seriously leave them out. This is the 26th century people. Fire should not kill people in armor. Especially not mjolnir.

They may not kill people in armor, but fire does hurt those who are not in armor.

It’s a video game…

I do agree with this though it was quite annoying dieing to a flame thrower and a flame grenade i understand that it was just something to add to the game but being realistic fire cannot ignite metal unless it was a liquid based substance that the flames were creative with, like gasoline.

Well instead of a flamethrower it will be a lavathrower.

I like fire. Let’s have lots of fire, keeps me warm at night.

:smiley:

> It’s a video game…

And as such, fire is a very important part of the graphics.

I don’t think they need to bring in any new weapons, I think there already great. Maybe adjust what we already know, but only slightly.

PeacE
ShadEO9

It’s a freaking game…

> I don’t think they need to bring in any new weapons, I think there already great. Maybe adjust what we already know, but only slightly.
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> PeacE
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Sorry man, but they more than likely are :confused:
They probably won’t change it up too drastically, though. So no need to worry!

But, I loved flame grenades on halo 3…

flame weapons where awesome though, there is no point removing them. I was upset they weren’t in reach, they where just cool in general.

Sigh. Another realism argument.

How do you think the Mjolnir armor is penetrated by an assault rifle?

Game>Canon
Also, that is what Frankie said.

If there is the Flood, we need flamethrowers.

fire weapons may be needed if we are dealing with things such as possibly the flood.
Though they always made multiplayer interesting in Halo 3.

> Sigh. Another realism argument.
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> How do you think the Mjolnir armor is penetrated by an assault rifle?
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> Also, that is what Frankie said.
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> If there is the Flood, we need flamethrowers.

Realism argument? This is an argument without common sense.

After reading the first 2 sentences, I interpreted the op to mean leave them out because there would be better options being used (i.e. plasma weapons, lasers). But he lost me with the 3rd sentence. It seems to suggest leaving them out is the only solution, which is ridiculous because 343 could just adjust their damage and such.

And yeah, how does the AR penetrate the armor? How can an assault rifle fire inaccurately? How come tanks are so slow? Halo isn’t supposed to be realistic. Some realism is nice but too much realism just kills the immersion. There should be a balance.

> how does the AR penetrate the armor?

It’s called armor perishing rounds, they are real, and they are mean suckers.
As for why the AR isn’t a very accurate is the same reason the sniper rifle has a long barrel, and isn’t fully auto. The shorter the barrel the less accurate a weapon gets and it’s effective range shortens. The M9 that military uses is only accurate for the first 50 meters, then you might as well be throwing rocks. Also, fully automatic weapons aren’t as accurate because instead of fighting the recoil for one round, you’re fighting recoil for every round the weapon fires off until it either runs out of ammo, or the trigger is released.

> > how does the AR penetrate the armor?
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> It’s called armor perishing rounds, they are real, and they are mean suckers.
> As for why the AR isn’t a very accurate is the same reason the sniper rifle has a long barrel, and isn’t fully auto. The shorter the barrel the less accurate a weapon gets and it’s effective range shortens. The M9 that military uses is only accurate for the first 50 meters, then you might as well be throwing rocks. Also, fully automatic weapons aren’t as accurate because instead of fighting the recoil for one round, you’re fighting recoil for every round the weapon fires off until it either runs out of ammo, or the trigger is released.

But the armor was originally designed to fight against other humans, chiefly those using assault rifles…the developers would have looked to blocking that first.

Also, we need flamethrowers and flame grenades. It not a matter of personal preference, we need them.

> > > how does the AR penetrate the armor?
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> > It’s called armor perishing rounds, they are real, and they are mean suckers.
> > As for why the AR isn’t a very accurate is the same reason the sniper rifle has a long barrel, and isn’t fully auto. The shorter the barrel the less accurate a weapon gets and it’s effective range shortens. The M9 that military uses is only accurate for the first 50 meters, then you might as well be throwing rocks. Also, fully automatic weapons aren’t as accurate because instead of fighting the recoil for one round, you’re fighting recoil for every round the weapon fires off until it either runs out of ammo, or the trigger is released.
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> But the armor was originally designed to fight against other humans, chiefly those using assault rifles…the developers would have looked to blocking that first.
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> Also, we need flamethrowers and flame grenades. It not a matter of personal preference, we need them.

They would have made it as resistant as possible but if the armour took enough rounds it would still be pierced.

> > > > how does the AR penetrate the armor?
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> > > It’s called armor perishing rounds, they are real, and they are mean suckers.
> > > As for why the AR isn’t a very accurate is the same reason the sniper rifle has a long barrel, and isn’t fully auto. The shorter the barrel the less accurate a weapon gets and it’s effective range shortens. The M9 that military uses is only accurate for the first 50 meters, then you might as well be throwing rocks. Also, fully automatic weapons aren’t as accurate because instead of fighting the recoil for one round, you’re fighting recoil for every round the weapon fires off until it either runs out of ammo, or the trigger is released.
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> > But the armor was originally designed to fight against other humans, chiefly those using assault rifles…the developers would have looked to blocking that first.
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> > Also, we need flamethrowers and flame grenades. It not a matter of personal preference, we need them.
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> They would have made it as resistant as possible but if the armour took enough rounds it would still be pierced.

True, but these are Spartans–they’re gonna fight back. They also have their shields, so I think it safe to say it would incredibly dificult for a human weapon to kill them.

> Seriously leave them out. This is the 26th century people. Fire should not kill people in armor. Especially not mjolnir.

A blue flame would easily cut through alloy steel. I happen to like the rediculously hilarious flamethrower. I definitely want to see it return.