No co-op flight today

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So, Ske7ch left this to show that that they won’t start the flight today:
https://twitter.com/ske7ch/status/1546533711818006528
The excuse is that “We said the week of July 11th, we didn’t say it would be on July 11th.”
I’m sorry, maybe this is my English degree talking, but you all should have phrased your sentence better. Actually this whole situation could have been avoided.

First of all, saying “The week of July 11th” is a vague timeframe, as intended. However, you have given a minimum date to expect the flight. I could have said “Week of the 10th, week of the 12th, week of the 13th” etc and have it all mean the same thing. However when you give any date like that you give an expectation that (at least optimistically) it will release the soonest day it will come out. You could have said “Sometime between July 11th and 18th” or even “Mid July” and end it there. This never happened and you raised expectations where it shouldn’t have been raised.

Second, since the flight is supposed to be this week at an unspecified time, you should have a hard launch date in mind the week before, even if you don’t tell us. In fact, something could have been said yesterday to avoid all of this. And if you have a date ready, you announce it today. But apparently this is a day-by-day situation, which I will get to.

Third, if you are still discovering issues that you’re fixing with the flight, the week the flight is supposed to go out, then what you are telling us is that the flight isn’t even ready for a public build! If your public test build isn’t ready to be public, then why did you tell people it would be ready by now? When you make announcements that means the product is at least close to a public-ready state. Yes, plans change. But you don’t wait until the week-of to pull back! It looks like you’re trying to cover up last minute. Again, you could have said something yesterday to avoid this.

Lastly, if you guys are working on this flight day-by-day, as in it is the most up-to-date build in your hands, then that shows us your team is further behind than any of us thought. You keep your most up-to-date items behind closed doors and give the public a previous build and if anything comes up you apply it to the newer build that isn’t in public hands. That way, even if you’re behind, you give the appearance that you’re ahead. At least in how that tweet is phrased, this is not the case. This sounds like the public version is the same build as the private version.

I know Ske7ch may have written his tweet off-the-cuff to quell expectations, and I guess this is technically transparent. But 343, you all need to check what you say closely, Closer than you have before. Inferred reading is just as important as literal and there is alot to infer here.

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The entire community assumed it meant today very publicly, and instead of clarifying sooner they waited until the day of?

That’s just not good PR.

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Not only is it vague, it honestly just leaves the implication that the flight test will take place from July 11th to July 18th. Idk, I’m reading that out of context so maybe there was more information that they gave to clarify. But in a vacuum, saying the week of July 11th implies a full week. Unless they said “sometime during the week of July 11th.” But yea, i didnt read the original post.

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Here are some of the quotes.

Campaign Network Co-Op for Halo Infinite is on its way and you’ll soon be able to take the fight to the Banished with your friends and family in the upcoming flight, which is targeted to run from the week of July 11.

We will be flighting this Campaign Network Co-Op and Mission Replay experience through the Halo Insider program from the week of July 11.

As a reminder: we are targeting the week of July 11 for this flight and will keep the community appraised of any updates on that in the coming days.

Yeah, the implications show one story, literal shows another.

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That ones easy. For some odd reason, big modern gaming companies love to over-promise and under-deliver. Idk if theyre just masochistic, but it seems like these CEOs literally thrive off of our disappointment. This isnt restricted to 343 either. Everyones doing it! EA, Ubisoft, Activision, Bethesda, you name it. This is why I never get hyped, and this is why I dont even follow video game news anymore. It’s all jut smoke in mirros at this point.

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At this point any “release dates” 343 pulls out of thin air should be taken with a grain of salt. Deadlines just aren’t a realistic expectation for 343 at this point. So bizarre to think this game has had 8 years of development time to end up like this.

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It’s worded the way it is like many other things are so they have the option to change their mind. It’s why you will not see an actual set date for most things now seeing how 343 is literally struggling with the beta.

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I’ve been out of the loop but yeah, this sounds like it all starts July 11th.

If they do give a timeframe it is good to assume the last possible date on that timeframe…even better to assume it will be delayed.

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Except they didn’t give enough information in the first place.

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It could be clips from within 343, and if co-op isnt avail…WTF is with the videos im seeing on my dash???

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So basically if it’s not out by the 16th, add that to the long list of 343’s empty words, promises, delays, and excuses. Come on 343. 16th or bust. Don’t fail us. Don’t make promises you can’t keep. Everyone was expecting it to run from the 11th to the 17th. Don’t last second it

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Sounds lik co-ops having some issues out of the gate (that its already 8 months late to).

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Honestly I doubt the actual Co Op campaign is coming on time. Sad that they couldn’t get this right.

By the time they get this game running with the bare minimum stuff, we are going to be moved on by than

I wonder if the new COD is will have all Standard playlist day 1

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The late gate , I honestly have the lowest expectations for this game at this point. To struggle this much just to get basic features out the door is got me wondering how badly put together this game is.

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343 knows what they are doing when they are being vague and lying. Before the Halo Infinite beta released I like many people upgraded from Xbox gold to game pass ultimate because there was supposed to be campaign co-op and a massive open world and regularly updated content, none of it has happened.

Sure there is sort of an open world, it’s just a dead space, that’s why you need the grapple hook to Spider-Man as quickly as possible, so maybe we won’t clue into the copy and paste boring design.

I would have cancelled game pass, but they kept promising co-op release and campaign content, they lied to make me hang on and keep paying … for what, for nothing, they lied, but it did work, I hung on.

So what has 343 accomplished? I cancelled the game pass and I have been left with a bitter after-taste, the nasty taste even extends to Microsoft, they are allowing this 343 deceitful company to lie, cheat, and steal.

At least you can buy more cosmetics to show off when playing the game, oh wait no, different game, silly me, you can’t tell what armour anyone has in Infinite.

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Wait so the flight wont even last until the full co op is out?

Lmao Im done with this game

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Flights never did that though. Its always been a week and then it ends. They have always been separate installs.

This isn’t even a Halo Infinite issue, its not even an existing issue they’ve done this since the MCC PC release. They said even back then that flights were not public betas, they are test builds. They are basically extending QA testing to Halo Insiders.

Sorry if you were led to believe something different, but this was never going to be a public beta that would last until the “official” release.

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They were probably hoping to push it out the 11th, but like everything else so far in this games development, they missed the deadline. So like everything else in this games development, they had to come up with a disappointing excuse for the fans.

People need to wise up and not expect anything on time. I would be surprised it the coop beta even comes out this month given 343s track record and lack of transparency

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Then they need to stop announcing things and giving public deadlines altogether. I’ll keep giving them expectations (Which at this point my expectations is for them to deliver on the bare minimum) until they either

cut support and abandon Infinite

or a last straw breaks the camel’s back and we bail from Infinite.

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Most likely, but I am sticking around to see how forge plays out. If that is messed up like the rest of the beta. I’m deleting infinite to make space. No sense of having a broken game taking up space.

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