In Halo wars 2, i hated the way that we had to pay two extra campaigns with money uch as operation and awenking the nightmare. if 343 wants to add an extra campaign, make it in the campaign section and free. Also it should be in day one release.
I think campaign dlc is great. It dosnt split the player base like map packs and it dosnt negitivly impact the game in the million ways microtransactions do. I would love to see campaign dlc in infinite as long as the missions are good. There are so many places and settings that could be explored it dosnt have to be tied to the main story, for example the dlc could feature jerome on the ark and wrap up the story from halo wars 2 (since halo wars 3 likely is not happening).
That’s not how campaign expansions work. If they’re deliberately holding content back from the main game to sell as a DLC then yes don’t do that, shouldn’t stoop as low as EA or Activision. But if they’re made post launch I don’t see how you’d want them in at launch. Also you can’t just expect campaign expansions to be free. Developers can give them out for free if they wish to, sure, but they take resources, time, and effort to make, it’s unfair to expect them for free in my opinion.
Paid DLC used to be legitimate bonus content last decade but quickly become a scam to release content in chunks. Any company that does it these days is purely exploiting the playerbase. It’s unfortunate that players simply accept this practice which gives publishers and developers total freedom to do whatever they want. Since the legal workarounds are much easier than that of loot boxes, no one can really stop them from continuing this nonsense either.
The worst is planned DLC because that openly says “games as a service” which almost guarantees tons of major bugs and lack of content at launch which will either take months to fix or not be fixed at all (Halo Wars 2 is still not a polished game). It’s basically saying, “Here’s a car you can buy. Pay us now for the body, engine, transmission, wheels, and driver seat. After a couple months, we’ll contact you so you can buy the remaining seats, sound system, and HVAC system. The body is dented all over and the engine sometimes shuts off for no reason, but don’t you want all this other cool new stuff?” I despise the practice especially since there are still smaller studios who put out finished games with minor bugs on occasion that get patched relatively soon after launch.
There are much better and player-focused ways of making money post-launch (eg., Rocket League and Overwatch) and there is nothing wrong with doing it that way. But, unfortunately, Halo has always done it poorly with tons of map packs that split the playerbase (mainly starting with Halo 3) and the REQ system. Granted, the only paid campaign DLC was Halo Wars 2 (and maybe MCC depending on when you got ODST), but that was one of the worst lies I’ve seen a company carry out and one that players blindly support to this day.
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> In Halo wars 2, i hated the way that we had to pay two extra campaigns with money uch as operation and awenking the nightmare. if 343 wants to add an extra campaign, make it in the campaign section and free. Also it should be in day one release.
You want more campaign content and for it to be free? And be available on day one? Good luck with that, bud dy.
Well somebody’s spoiled.
Campaign DLC is never going to be free. That’s not how game development works. A lot more work is put into campaign DLC than multiplayer. You need to create charcaters, write a story, develop an environment, and program AI and a lot of other stuff. That’s not cheap.
It’s also just more content, which means more time and resources put into it, that the company then has to make back.
And making it day one DLC is a terrible practice. If it’s held back deliberately at launch, then it’s content that should be in the game but was separated to make a quick buck. Releasing DLC down the line helps keep players active in the game for a longer period of time because they have new content to look forward to. That’s why live service games dominate the industry right now. They can retain a playerbase for longer, and thus make more money.
I don’t think there should be another extra campaign except if it’s like Spartan ops, Spartan ops was hated because of the writing.
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> I don’t think there should be another extra campaign except if it’s like Spartan ops, Spartan ops was hated because of the writing.
I recall a lot of Spartan Ops’ criticism coming from its constant recycling of levels and lack of mission variety. Not so much the writing. Either way, I’d be fine with the story continuing after Infinite’s campaign. If Infinite is a live service game in almost expect it.
I think all “money making” outside of the base game should be cosmetic. That way, people like me who don’t care about cosmetics won’t have to pay anything for DLC. 343 is a company. They are going to have to make profit somehow. I would rather pay for cosmetics than map DLCs or story DLCs.
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> I don’t think there should be another extra campaign except if it’s like Spartan ops, Spartan ops was hated because of the writing.
I would disagree. If you just watch the Spartan Ops cutscenes, like I did, the story is pretty decent. The repetitive mission objectives and maps was what people didn’t like about it.
I personally wouldn’t mind paying for campaign dlc as long as at launch the halo infinite story is satisfying.
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> That’s not how campaign expansions work. If they’re deliberately holding content back from the main game to sell as a DLC then yes don’t do that, shouldn’t stoop as low as EA or Activision. But if they’re made post launch I don’t see how you’d want them in at launch. Also you can’t just expect campaign expansions to be free. Developers can give them out for free if they wish to, sure, but they take resources, time, and effort to make, it’s unfair to expect them for free in my opinion.
100% agree here.
Look at games like the Witcher or Skyrim. The first time I bought and played skyrims DLC, I was blown away!! It was like I just bought another new game. It was HUGE!! You can’t expect things like that to be free.
I just want 343I to give a physical release of HW2 GOTY edition 
I hate how it’s digital only!
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> > That’s not how campaign expansions work. If they’re deliberately holding content back from the main game to sell as a DLC then yes don’t do that, shouldn’t stoop as low as EA or Activision. But if they’re made post launch I don’t see how you’d want them in at launch. Also you can’t just expect campaign expansions to be free. Developers can give them out for free if they wish to, sure, but they take resources, time, and effort to make, it’s unfair to expect them for free in my opinion.
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> 100% agree here.
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> Look at games like the Witcher or Skyrim. The first time I bought and played skyrims DLC, I was blown away!! It was like I just bought another new game. It was HUGE!! You can’t expect things like that to be free.
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> I just want 343I to give a physical release of HW2 GOTY edition I hate how it’s digital only!
Yeah it’s one thing if the DLC was held from the original game but if it’s something created post launch the developers have every right to charge for it. You wouldn’t get a contractor to do your kitchen floor and then expect them to come back and do your bathroom floor for free just because you already bought the kitchen floor.
Will pay for campaign content if after one year or so they want to release a true EXPANSION. If it’s gonne be Halo Infinite then I’m demanding nothing less really ;p
There has never been paid campaign DLC in a mainline Halo so I don’t think they are going to start now.
The truth is, the cost of games has not kept up with the cost of developing and producing major title games. AAA games have become larger and more graphically complex to meet the ever growing expectations of the gaming communities, but we are still paying comparable launch prices for games launched in 2004! The standard version of Halo 2 was $50. Now the market that existed that allowed Halo 2 to be sold for $50 and little DLC (again prices staying constant at $19.99) no longer exists. In order to maintain profitability publishers and developers have had to devise ways to create post-launch revenue.
I’m okay with Infinite having a Spartan Ops-style post campaign DLC seasons. The cutscenes and missions were fun. I’d like all base armor pieces to be purchasable with in-game currency. If you want a crazy gun skin or paint scheme for your armor pieces, then sure spend the $5-$20 dollars on the pack. If this means that Halo cost $80 and story DLC is $30, I’d be okay with that.
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> In Halo wars 2, i hated the way that we had to pay two extra campaigns with money uch as operation and awenking the nightmare. if 343 wants to add an extra campaign, make it in the campaign section and free. Also it should be in day one release.
I’d only be upset with 343i if those two campaigns were extremely important or were actually part of the campaign we initially paid for. However, Operation: Spearbreaker and Awakening the Nightmare were not DIRECTLY tied into the campaign; they were just what went on AFTER the campaign. A little catch me up, if you will. Sure, they are part of the story line, but they take place some time after Anders leaves on the Halo ring, so it’s not 100% relevant to the story line we were given. So fair’s fair, I’ll pay for extensions that give us a little bit of a clue of what’s going on since Anders departure.
Both DLC’s were pretty short anyway and we didn’t have to pay too much, so it’s not a big deal. Now if those DLC were actually endings to the original campaign, THEN I’d be angry.
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> > In Halo wars 2, i hated the way that we had to pay two extra campaigns with money uch as operation and awenking the nightmare. if 343 wants to add an extra campaign, make it in the campaign section and free. Also it should be in day one release.
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> I’d only be upset with 343i if those two campaigns were extremely important or were actually part of the campaign we initially paid for. HowevOperation: Spearbreaker and Awakening the Nightmare were not DIRECTLY tied into the campaign; they were just what went on AFTER the campaign. A little catch me up, if you will. Sure, they are part of the story line, but they take place some time after Anders leaves on the Halo ring, so it’s not 100% relevant to the story line we were given. So fair’s fair, I’ll pay for extensions that give us a little bit of a clue of what’s going on since Anders departure.
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> Both DLC’s were pretty short anyway and we didn’t have to pay too much, so it’s not a big deal. Now if those DLC were actually endings to the original campaign, THEN I’d be angry.
Awakening the nightmare was quite important due to flood returning back and I think it’s probably gonna return in Infinite.
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> > > In Halo wars 2, i hated the way that we had to pay two extra campaigns with money uch as operation and awenking the nightmare. if 343 wants to add an extra campaign, make it in the campaign section and free. Also it should be in day one release.
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> > I’d only be upset with 343i if those two campaigns were extremely important or were actually part of the campaign we initially paid for. HowevOperation: Spearbreaker and Awakening the Nightmare were not DIRECTLY tied into the campaign; they were just what went on AFTER the campaign. A little catch me up, if you will. Sure, they are part of the story line, but they take place some time after Anders leaves on the Halo ring, so it’s not 100% relevant to the story line we were given. So fair’s fair, I’ll pay for extensions that give us a little bit of a clue of what’s going on since Anders departure.
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> > Both DLC’s were pretty short anyway and we didn’t have to pay too much, so it’s not a big deal. Now if those DLC were actually endings to the original campaign, THEN I’d be angry.
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> Awakening the nightmare was quite important due to flood returning back and I think it’s probably gonna return in Infinite.
But it wasn’t a part of the original campaign. The original campaign wasn’t about the Flood, it was about fighting back against Atriox and finding a way to get help against him.
If Awakening the Nightmare had instead been about the help Anders had gone to get or about the Guardians, then I’d be inclined to agree. But the Flood was never even mentioned ONCE during the main campaign as far as I am aware of (in fact even the man, the legend himself, the Master Chief was only mentioned once by Isabel when Jerome asked about all the derbis laying about from the Human-Covenant fight on the Ark). Therefore it is external to the main plot.
If they do sell campaign dlc than the main story campaign better be worth it. That’s one of the big problems people had with Activision they sold a really bad campaign for destiny and hid the actual campaign behind 15 dollars.