If I were a betting man, I would say they are saving the flood for a DLC. The base game will be T for Teen, but honestly the MSRB has shown that the rating doesn’t matter at any time other than launch. I could see them being able to cut loose a bit more with the flood in an “M” rated" DLC.
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> I think you’re making a lot of jumps to conclusions.
> The gameplay demo was nowhere near finished when it was shown to us. That includes VFX such as blood.
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> As for T rating meaning no flood. I think that’s completely just speculation you’re making. There can be flood in the game with it still being a T rating or whatever rating the game will receive. Let’s not state things as facts when we don’t have all the details at hand.
Blood and the flood were the main reasons halo recieved m rating in the past. You can dismember the flood, and fighting them were definately some of the more graphic parts of the games. The only way to have the flood in the game would be to remove most of what made them scary and cool, or at least tone them down alot. But that would make them suck. Also, Halo Infinite is already rated T for teen on the microsoft store so its completely reasonable to assume that blood will again be mostly absent from infinite and potentially anything more graphic than blood, including most attributes of the flood like dismemberment and real time infection of dead bodies and living humans and other creatures.
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> I think you’re making a lot of jumps to conclusions.
> The gameplay demo was nowhere near finished when it was shown to us. That includes VFX such as blood.
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> As for T rating meaning no flood. I think that’s completely just speculation you’re making. There can be flood in the game with it still being a T rating or whatever rating the game will receive. Let’s not state things as facts when we don’t have all the details at hand.
And considering they didnt delay the game until AFTER the trailer reveal and AFTER all of the backlash, id say that build was probably pretty close to what we were going to get last year. They were perfectly fine using that trailer to intice people to buy their product, so how is it unreasonable to expect from the game what 343 has revealed so far?
I don’t see why 343 would even try to target young audiences at this point. Give us a mature rating. I’d like to see what they can do with no restrictions tbh.
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> > I think you’re making a lot of jumps to conclusions.
> > The gameplay demo was nowhere near finished when it was shown to us. That includes VFX such as blood.
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> > As for T rating meaning no flood. I think that’s completely just speculation you’re making. There can be flood in the game with it still being a T rating or whatever rating the game will receive. Let’s not state things as facts when we don’t have all the details at hand.
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> Blood and the flood were the main reasons halo recieved m rating in the past. You can dismember the flood, and fighting them were definately some of the more graphic parts of the games. The only way to have the flood in the game would be to remove most of what made them scary and cool, or at least tone them down alot. But that would make them suck. Also, Halo Infinite is already rated T for teen on the microsoft store so its completely reasonable to assume that blood will again be mostly absent from infinite and potentially anything more graphic than blood, including most attributes of the flood like dismemberment and real time infection of dead bodies and living humans and other creatures.
think marine banter was another factor in bumping the ESRB rating. think about it, when was the last time we heard of some very funny marines and heard the things the said?
In the lead up to Halo 2 and Halo 3, Bungie explained that they tried to get an M rating for their games. They would go in to the MSRB and play a section of the game and immediately show the worst aspects.
I believe “Paint the ground with marine blood” was a phrase they used. They felt it better to get the higher rating than to risk getting in trouble for having a T rating and being borderline.
Every Halo game has a combination of (Blood/Gore, Violence, Language). Some have mild in front of them, some are missing the language or the gore (gore is basically an indication of the flood from what I see). If I listed what Halo 5 has vs Halo ODST, you would think that ODST was the one that should be rated T.
I hope it’s Rated M, I don’t know why it needs to target a younger audience when there’s kids that are like 12 playing GTA V
An audio recording I listened to earlier that came from the audio team for halo Infinite has me hopeful that the flood will be in the game. There were noises from a pug that sound a awful lot like the noises from the flood, it could also be grunts eating or sleeping though but sounded more like flood noises minus the scream they let out occasionally. Although those noises could end up as cut content. Maybe tomorrow we will find out more as we are due for the next installment of inside Infinite.
I don’t see why the Flood cant still be in the game or blood and not have a T rating. As people have pointed out, standards have changed since Halo 1-3. If any of the previous Bungie Halos had been made today, they would have gotten T ratings. Halo has never really emphasized gore not even with the flood in which their gore throughout the series is more cartoonish than anything you’d find in say Gears of War. Not too mention a game being rated T does not put a limit on themes or language. Halo games rarely ever had hard swears to begin aside from a few exceptions and being a teen rated game doesnt mean that they couldn’t still explore the themes Halo normally has.
To give an actual example of what I’m talking about: Halo Reach. The game is rated M, but realistically what is in the game that would warrant that rating by today’s standards? Blood? Sure, its their but blood alone doesnt make a game rated M automatically. Swearing? Some exist but its nothing really out there compared to other games of the same rating where you have characters throwing out F bombs. Gore? The closets thing would be the drones exploding when you headshot them but its hardly graphic, there is no guts or alien intestines flying around. So until we see more gameplay or actually get the games, I don’t really have reason to think that the level of violence will be any less than what was shown in previous Bungie Halos.
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> > I think you’re making a lot of jumps to conclusions.
> > The gameplay demo was nowhere near finished when it was shown to us. That includes VFX such as blood.
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> > As for T rating meaning no flood. I think that’s completely just speculation you’re making. There can be flood in the game with it still being a T rating or whatever rating the game will receive. Let’s not state things as facts when we don’t have all the details at hand.
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> And considering they didnt delay the game until AFTER the trailer reveal and AFTER all of the backlash, id say that build was probably pretty close to what we were going to get last year. They were perfectly fine using that trailer to intice people to buy their product, so how is it unreasonable to expect from the game what 343 has revealed so far?
They may have been perfectly fine with releasing with the level of quality that they showed that could very well be true. They may have also believed as they stated later on that they had enough time to be able to get it to the bar that they wanted to at their original release date. As we all now know that was wishful thinking but at least they took the right step and delayed the game to make it better rather than rushing out an inferior product.
In terms of the flood being in the game even with a Teen rating, I believe that it definitely is possible. Someone did bring up that the flood have looked pretty grotesque is the past and that may be a reason why you can’t include them in a Halo game that is rated T. I do agree with that but if my memory serves me correctly Halo 4 had the Flood in the Infected game mode and they did look pretty different from previous Halos. They were much more smooth and didn’t have the more mutilated look to them. Granted Halo 4 was an M rated game but I feel like they could get away with the Halo 4 design in a T rated game. I also feel the exploding Flood guy and the little Flood balls (sorry I forgot their official names lol) would be fine as they aren’t too graphic and when they explode it looks more like a green goo to me than blood. I do hope 343 has the Flood in Infinite as I’ve always viewed them as one of the major antagonists of the entire series. After all they were the reason the Halo rings were created in the first place. If not the main game then hopefully for a campaign dlc/expansion down the road.
Halo 3 ODST got i’ts M rating only because of like 2 swearing lines in the game,that tells you how much Bungie cared of rating system.
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> Not a lot of blood in the gameplay. I guess it’s going for a T ratting what means no flood.
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> Unless we get a flood dlc because dlc doesn’t get ratings
idk that warthog splattered the grunt in the demo and blood went all over the screen also in rating’s if blood is not red they can usually get a T rating.
What if the flood somehow return in a somewhat mechanized sort of form? Like zombie prometheans basically?
Not really ideal… but then it means the flood come back AND 343 would still get their T rating.
If having an M rating means the return of flood, I’m all for it
There is actually blood you just cant see it well because of the campaign demos godawful lighting
Come to think of it, wasn’t Halo CE originally rated T until the ESRB first saw the flood and slapped an M on dat box just before release?
I get where your concern is. I too am hoping for an M rating so we can have flood the way they were in the rest of the games. Also something to note is today some T games are allowed to have heavier blood and gore…
I just don’t want Microsoft restricting the game to a T again. Yes I know it was unfinished, but I was disappointed when blood didn’t stick to anything in the demo. It makes things less immersive when there is quite a fair amount of blood there, but it just disappears.
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> Come to think of it, wasn’t Halo CE originally rated T until the ESRB first saw the flood and slapped an M on dat box just before release?
By todays standards it would probably be T anyways. H3 would be right on the line. The only thing I would lean away from is something like gears of war amount of blood.
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> What if the flood somehow return in a somewhat mechanized sort of form? Like zombie prometheans basically?
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> Not really ideal… but then it means the flood come back AND 343 would still get their T rating.
Idk that’s not really a compromise I would want to make. 343 should make the Halo game and worry about the rating later. I just don’t want this cupcake crap Halo 5 pulled. I know somewhere at 343 there is a much more mature story and aesthetic script for Halo 5…
I don’t mind prometheans, but they need to steer away from feeling like bullet sponges.
I am thinking Halo Infinite will be rated M but like I previously said most of the content from previous games could actually be passable as rated T. If you look at the bottom of the Halo Infinite game overview page it says RP (rating pending) M. That being said it is currently a placeholder for the final rating for when it is released and could change.