no aa? what game are you even making here?

i have played every halo game from the beginning. there is clearly no meaningful aim assist in this game. controller needs aim assist to even function whatsoever competitively. halo has always been a console game, and to see the devs cater to the pc crowd over console players in disheartening to say the least. no one in their right mind is going to play this game on console. you are ostracizing the core audience that built this franchise, and its extremely disappointing. crossplay should not even be enabled if it means your core audience is brushed aside, it would be better to have aim assist for controller and not mix the platforms. this game feels absolutely terrible and will fail on console in its current state.

I think you are in the minority on this one op
From what i’ve played in this flight (just the acadamy training) AA has been boosted since the first flight
Commando, pistol and even the sniper are easier to aim with

AA isn’t over bearing like it was in H4 and H5
to quote Martha Stewart “…Its a good thing…”

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> I think you are in the minority on this one op
> From what i’ve played in this flight (just the acadamy training) AA has been boosted since the first flight
> Commando, pistol and even the sniper are easier to aim with
>
> AA isn’t over bearing like it was in H4 and H5
> to quote Martha Stewart “…Its a good thing…”

quoting martha stewart? uh ok. i am definitely not in the minority with this, you either do not play on controller or live in some fantasy echo chamber that does not fit reality.

Definitely, the aim mechanics need to be looked at, I’m not sure if it’s the aim assist values or just the terrible aim curve? Why not give us the aiming curve of MCC with like a H3 level of AA

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> > I think you are in the minority on this one op
> > From what i’ve played in this flight (just the acadamy training) AA has been boosted since the first flight
> > Commando, pistol and even the sniper are easier to aim with
> >
> > AA isn’t over bearing like it was in H4 and H5
> > to quote Martha Stewart “…Its a good thing…”
>
> quoting martha stewart? uh ok. i am definitely not in the minority with this, you either do not play on controller or live in some fantasy echo chamber that does not fit reality.

Both of those premises are incorrect
I’m on the XSX with an elite v2 controller and I have no such echo chamber

Sorry Op, it honestly feels fine to me
Rewards good aim, punishes spaming and poor aim
I think the AR needs to be toned down, and I’d like to see the motiontracker form the first flight return, but thus far those are my only real gripes

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> > > I think you are in the minority on this one op
> > > From what i’ve played in this flight (just the acadamy training) AA has been boosted since the first flight
> > > Commando, pistol and even the sniper are easier to aim with
> > >
> > > AA isn’t over bearing like it was in H4 and H5
> > > to quote Martha Stewart “…Its a good thing…”
> >
> > quoting martha stewart? uh ok. i am definitely not in the minority with this, you either do not play on controller or live in some fantasy echo chamber that does not fit reality.
>
> Both of those premises are incorrect
> I’m on the XSX with an elite v2 controller and I have no such echo chamber
>
> Sorry Op, it honestly feels fine to me
> Rewards good aim, punishes spaming and poor aim
> I think the AR needs to be toned down, and I’d like to see the motiontracker form the first flight return, but thus far those are my only real gripes

wow, you even like the radar from the first flight, which was completely horrid i might add. no halo veteran is going to take you seriously. the motion tracker tracks motion, thats what it does. not sprint, motion…

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> > > > I think you are in the minority on this one op
> > > > From what i’ve played in this flight (just the acadamy training) AA has been boosted since the first flight
> > > > Commando, pistol and even the sniper are easier to aim with
> > > >
> > > > AA isn’t over bearing like it was in H4 and H5
> > > > to quote Martha Stewart “…Its a good thing…”
> > >
> > > quoting martha stewart? uh ok. i am definitely not in the minority with this, you either do not play on controller or live in some fantasy echo chamber that does not fit reality.
> >
> > Both of those premises are incorrect
> > I’m on the XSX with an elite v2 controller and I have no such echo chamber
> >
> > Sorry Op, it honestly feels fine to me
> > Rewards good aim, punishes spaming and poor aim
> > I think the AR needs to be toned down, and I’d like to see the motiontracker form the first flight return, but thus far those are my only real gripes
>
> wow, you even like the radar from the first flight, which was completely horrid i might add. no halo veteran is going to take you seriously. the motion tracker tracks motion, thats what it does. not sprint, motion…

actually it tended to be the older halo crowd that seemd to hold to the same opinion I had oddly enough.

weird…

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> > > > > I think you are in the minority on this one op
> > > > > From what i’ve played in this flight (just the acadamy training) AA has been boosted since the first flight
> > > > > Commando, pistol and even the sniper are easier to aim with
> > > > >
> > > > > AA isn’t over bearing like it was in H4 and H5
> > > > > to quote Martha Stewart “…Its a good thing…”
> > > >
> > > > quoting martha stewart? uh ok. i am definitely not in the minority with this, you either do not play on controller or live in some fantasy echo chamber that does not fit reality.
> > >
> > > Both of those premises are incorrect
> > > I’m on the XSX with an elite v2 controller and I have no such echo chamber
> > >
> > > Sorry Op, it honestly feels fine to me
> > > Rewards good aim, punishes spaming and poor aim
> > > I think the AR needs to be toned down, and I’d like to see the motiontracker form the first flight return, but thus far those are my only real gripes
> >
> > wow, you even like the radar from the first flight, which was completely horrid i might add. no halo veteran is going to take you seriously. the motion tracker tracks motion, thats what it does. not sprint, motion…
>
> actually it tended to be the older halo crowd that seemd to hold to the same opinion I had oddly enough.
>
> weird…

who are you even trying to fool with that statement? not the og halo crowd i assure you. im them, they are me. you are out of your mind.

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> > > > > > I think you are in the minority on this one op
> > > > > > From what i’ve played in this flight (just the acadamy training) AA has been boosted since the first flight
> > > > > > Commando, pistol and even the sniper are easier to aim with
> > > > > >
> > > > > > AA isn’t over bearing like it was in H4 and H5
> > > > > > to quote Martha Stewart “…Its a good thing…”
> > > > >
> > > > > quoting martha stewart? uh ok. i am definitely not in the minority with this, you either do not play on controller or live in some fantasy echo chamber that does not fit reality.
> > > >
> > > > Both of those premises are incorrect
> > > > I’m on the XSX with an elite v2 controller and I have no such echo chamber
> > > >
> > > > Sorry Op, it honestly feels fine to me
> > > > Rewards good aim, punishes spaming and poor aim
> > > > I think the AR needs to be toned down, and I’d like to see the motiontracker form the first flight return, but thus far those are my only real gripes
> > >
> > > wow, you even like the radar from the first flight, which was completely horrid i might add. no halo veteran is going to take you seriously. the motion tracker tracks motion, thats what it does. not sprint, motion…
> >
> > actually it tended to be the older halo crowd that seemd to hold to the same opinion I had oddly enough.
> >
> > weird…
>
> who are you even trying to fool with that statement? not the og halo crowd i assure you. im them, they are me. you are out of your mind.

Which is why I didn’t say “all of the OG crowd agreed with my opinion” notice how I stated that it tended to be the OG crowd that agreed with my opinion and if you don’t believe me look back through the threads in teh first flight and about the radar and have a look for yourself.

I’m not trying to “fool” anyone

I’m the og halo crowd been around since day one of H2 they are me, and quite a few of them liked the radar from the first tech preview as they saw it to be a good balance to sprint…I agree

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> i have played every halo game from the beginning. there is clearly no meaningful aim assist in this game. controller needs aim assist to even function whatsoever competitively. halo has always been a console game, and to see the devs cater to the pc crowd over console players in disheartening to say the least. no one in their right mind is going to play this game on console. you are ostracizing the core audience that built this franchise, and its extremely disappointing. crossplay should not even be enabled if it means your core audience is brushed aside, it would be better to have aim assist for controller and not mix the platforms. this game feels absolutely terrible and will fail on console in its current state.

There is plenty of aim assist. The issue is you’re using the guns in the wrong scenario. The most blatant is the pistol; if you trying to 5 shot someone across the map the assist won’t kick in. Use the gun in it’s designed range and it will be there. If the reticle is red then you’re good. It is still less so than MCC but the assist in that game is way beyond what any game should ever have. It plays the game for you.

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> > > > > > > I think you are in the minority on this one op
> > > > > > > From what i’ve played in this flight (just the acadamy training) AA has been boosted since the first flight
> > > > > > > Commando, pistol and even the sniper are easier to aim with
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > AA isn’t over bearing like it was in H4 and H5
> > > > > > > to quote Martha Stewart “…Its a good thing…”
> > > > > >
> > > > > > quoting martha stewart? uh ok. i am definitely not in the minority with this, you either do not play on controller or live in some fantasy echo chamber that does not fit reality.
> > > > >
> > > > > Both of those premises are incorrect
> > > > > I’m on the XSX with an elite v2 controller and I have no such echo chamber
> > > > >
> > > > > Sorry Op, it honestly feels fine to me
> > > > > Rewards good aim, punishes spaming and poor aim
> > > > > I think the AR needs to be toned down, and I’d like to see the motiontracker form the first flight return, but thus far those are my only real gripes
> > > >
> > > > wow, you even like the radar from the first flight, which was completely horrid i might add. no halo veteran is going to take you seriously. the motion tracker tracks motion, thats what it does. not sprint, motion…
> > >
> > > actually it tended to be the older halo crowd that seemd to hold to the same opinion I had oddly enough.
> > >
> > > weird…
> >
> > who are you even trying to fool with that statement? not the og halo crowd i assure you. im them, they are me. you are out of your mind.
>
> Which is why I didn’t say “all of the OG crowd agreed with my opinion” notice how I stated that it tended to be the OG crowd that agreed with my opinion and if you don’t believe me look back through the threads in teh first flight and about the radar and have a look for yourself.
>
> I’m not trying to “fool” anyone
>
> I’m the og halo crowd been around since day one of H2 they are me, and quite a few of them liked the radar from the first tech preview as they saw it to be a good balance to sprint…I agree

perhaps the vocal few on this site agreed, and you felt validated. but i assure you that anyone currently playing the mcc on the daily does not agree whatsoever with the nonsense spewing out of your mouth

I personally feel AA is about perfect however people who have less precise aim it will be an issue for. Practice with bots and the range to fine tune the aim and you’ll be fine.

aiming definitely feels off, cant figure out which settings i need to mess with to make it more ‘sturdy’ and not feel floaty and all over the place, this might sound crazy but current aiming reminds me of minecraft when they ported the pc version to xbox and removed the minecraft xbox one edition from the store, it feels as if its mainly a pc title that had controller support patched in

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> > > > > > > > I think you are in the minority on this one op
> > > > > > > > From what i’ve played in this flight (just the acadamy training) AA has been boosted since the first flight
> > > > > > > > Commando, pistol and even the sniper are easier to aim with
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > AA isn’t over bearing like it was in H4 and H5
> > > > > > > > to quote Martha Stewart “…Its a good thing…”
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > quoting martha stewart? uh ok. i am definitely not in the minority with this, you either do not play on controller or live in some fantasy echo chamber that does not fit reality.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Both of those premises are incorrect
> > > > > > I’m on the XSX with an elite v2 controller and I have no such echo chamber
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Sorry Op, it honestly feels fine to me
> > > > > > Rewards good aim, punishes spaming and poor aim
> > > > > > I think the AR needs to be toned down, and I’d like to see the motiontracker form the first flight return, but thus far those are my only real gripes
> > > > >
> > > > > wow, you even like the radar from the first flight, which was completely horrid i might add. no halo veteran is going to take you seriously. the motion tracker tracks motion, thats what it does. not sprint, motion…
> > > >
> > > > actually it tended to be the older halo crowd that seemd to hold to the same opinion I had oddly enough.
> > > >
> > > > weird…
>
> perhaps the vocal few on this site agreed, and you felt validated. but i assure you that anyone currently playing the mcc on the daily does not agree whatsoever with the nonsense spewing out of your mouth

Or…maybe…
Its simply a matter of different view points
Or, maybe you’re wrong…

I currnetly play MCC
This feels fine to me
shrug

Dunno what to tell you chief

It’s definitely harder than other Halo games. 100%.

Not saying it needs changing, will have to wait and see but if kbm on average dominates then it needs to be amended.

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> It’s definitely harder than other Halo games. 100%.
>
> Not saying it needs changing, will have to wait and see but if kbm on average dominates then it needs to be amended.

Well this is the thing yeah?
We don’t know whos on M&K and whos on Controller
On formal release we will be able to see these things as of right now, we don’t know
I can only speak to my experience and I think it feels just about right

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> Well this is the thing yeah?
> We don’t know whos on M&K and whos on Controller
> On formal release we will be able to see these things as of right now, we don’t know
> I can only speak to my experience and I think it feels just about right

Which are you using right now?

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> I think you are in the minority on this one op
> From what i’ve played in this flight (just the acadamy training) AA has been boosted since the first flight
> Commando, pistol and even the sniper are easier to aim with
>
> AA isn’t over bearing like it was in H4 and H5
> to quote Martha Stewart “…Its a good thing…”

I’m hearing very conflicting reports about AA - some folk claim its almost non existent whereas some folk are talking about it like its OP.

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> >
> > Well this is the thing yeah?
> > We don’t know whos on M&K and whos on Controller
> > On formal release we will be able to see these things as of right now, we don’t know
> > I can only speak to my experience and I think it feels just about right
>
> Which are you using right now?

I’m on the XSX using the elite v2 controller

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> i have played every halo game from the beginning. there is clearly no meaningful aim assist in this game. controller needs aim assist to even function whatsoever competitively. halo has always been a console game, and to see the devs cater to the pc crowd over console players in disheartening to say the least. no one in their right mind is going to play this game on console. you are ostracizing the core audience that built this franchise, and its extremely disappointing. crossplay should not even be enabled if it means your core audience is brushed aside, it would be better to have aim assist for controller and not mix the platforms. this game feels absolutely terrible and will fail on console in its current state.

There is definitely no catering the the PC crowd seeing how the game is a complete unoptimized mess for PC right now and it lacks even the most basic needs for a PC FPS game. And not to burst your console bubble but the success of this game will rely on its PC success. As a live service game and FTP to have exclusively would be a poor business decision, and not having the game optimized for what will more than likely be a majority of its player base is already a bad sign.