Hello everyone! This is my first post, and after reading your posts with awe (and sometimes a frown), I decided to make my own post.
In every iteration of the Halo Game, we have seen some sort of generational change within the Halo universe.
- Halo CE, 2, and 3 saw the Spartan I and IIs (I being Avery Johnson, Project ORION) - Halo Reach saw the Spartan IIIs - Halo 4 and 5 saw the Spartan IVsIt got me thinking about the stories involving the Librarian (in Halo 4). The Librarian from what I can recall, mentions this (as referenced from Halo Nation Wikia):
> In 2557, the Librarian appears before John-117 during the First Battle of Requiem. She explains to the Reclaimer her plans to ensure that mankind will inherit the Mantle of Responsibility, mankind’s ancient history with the Forerunners and the motivations of the Didact, and his plans for the Composer. She then tells John that when she indexed humanity for re-population, she had placed seeds that would lead to the creation of the Spartans, their MJOLNIR armor, and even John’s Ancilla Cortana. She claims that he’s “the culmination of a thousand lifetimes of planning.” But before she could elaborate, the Didact appeared, demanding that she relinquish her dialogue with the human.
This got me thinking. The Forerunner’s armor as shown in special movie segments shown a striking similarity to that of the MJLONIR armor. Additionally, the Promethean armor as stated from Halopedia suggests:
> Promethean warriors utilized an assortment of combat skins, ranging from various conventional battle armor designs to much larger models, including midsize fighting suits known as war sphinxes; more akin to vehicles than armor, they possessed enough firepower to destroy cities
Based on the UNSC’s ever-expanding knowledge, and the development of GEN2 armor, do you believe that there will be another evolution to the Spartan program? Will we see the integration of further Promethean technologies within the MJONLIR background? My personal belief is yes. I believe it because we see the addition of Promethean based technologies within the weapons (SMG, DMR, Assault Rifle, Battle Rifle) in the Halo 5 Warzone missions.
Thank you for reading and participating in my first response!
I shall dub the next iteration of Spartans to be called, “Spartan V” or “Spartan Primes”. Primes, being the overall cumulating and integration of both Human-Covenant technologies with that of Promethean Armor skin.
Well, unless the UNSC stops augmenting volunteers for the Spartan-IV program or it fails spectacularly, I doubt that there will be a need for a Spartan-V program.
Really is no need for a new spartan generation. The IV seem to have it covered quite nicely.
Unless its something drastic like they have 2 extra arms or are capable of non-mechanical flight, telepathy etc. etc. then I don’t see them bothering to change the classification, even if newer technologies mean future Spartans get improvements over the current batch of IV’s in terms of basics like strength, speed, endurance etc. I think they will just fold them into the IV’s, much like the III’s have been. Numbering is almost irrelevant now its just Spartan.
PLS no more Spartan generation!! Would be ridiculous.
Anyway I think the “Spartan” real meaning lost after SIV’s, though SIII’s also wasn’t trained from their childhood. They should get a new name, for example we could call them Myrmidons, they’re also greeks, and brave warriors.
> 2533274989165227;6:
> PLS no more Spartan generation!! Would be ridiculous.
> Anyway I think the “Spartan” real meaning lost after SIV’s, though SIII’s also wasn’t trained from their childhood. They should get a new name, for example we could call them Myrmidons, they’re also greeks, and brave warriors.
Spartan-IIIs were indeed trained from childhood, some were even younger than Spartan-II candidates (age 4).
> 2533274851065491;7:
> > 2533274989165227;6:
> > PLS no more Spartan generation!! Would be ridiculous.
> > Anyway I think the “Spartan” real meaning lost after SIV’s, though SIII’s also wasn’t trained from their childhood. They should get a new name, for example we could call them Myrmidons, they’re also greeks, and brave warriors.
>
>
> Spartan-IIIs were indeed trained from childhood, some were even younger than Spartan-II candidates (age 4).
How could I miss this? Thx for refreshing my knowledge.
Is the whole thing with the Librarian still canon? H5 kinda blew that one out the window…
I don’t see augmentation happening since they have all the Spartans they need. I believe though, you’re idea of naming would suffice befitting for a title such as MJOLNIR Prime, Or Mark VII Prime. Something to do with the MJOLNIR armor more so than augmentation. But, nowhere in the lore does it say secondary augmentation on current Spartans isn’t possible. There could be specific modifications that can be done, an example of how the Librarian further modified John 117’s body to make him immune to the Composer and a bunch of other changes we haven’t saw yet.
i think than the next generation of spartans, must be called Spartans-Elites, Spartans with shageili technology, maybe like the amro helioskrill but more advanced, with new abilities like camo, better shields, etc.
spartan classifications come with age, but since it takes soldiers from other brancehs that is kind of eliminated. so until any MAJOR scientific (augmentation, armor or other tech) breaktrough i dont see “SV” 's walking around.
however should they try to reinstate the spartan2 training program there could very well be a spartan v program since the technologies since the s2 program have advanced quite a bit.
so yes its possible there will be sV’s walking around but not anytime soon
Like it was said before, I don’t think the UNSC would move to a new generation of SPARTAN unless they were fundamentally different from the IVs.
Theories:
-
With discoveries of old Forerunner genetic research, I could see the creation of the SPARTAN IV GEN2s, or something named to that extent. IVs inherently superior to their predecessors, but functionally the same. In short, IVs but with enhanced performance due to improved augmentations.
-
Assumedly, after the end of the Created-Humanity/Separatist, and the (probable) highly accessible abundance of Forerunner technology that the Created’s defeat will bring, the inception of MJOLNIR GEN3 would be a definite eventuality. After a decade (give or take a few years) of humanity’s constant experiments and field testings of GEN2, a reliable supply of Forerunner technology represents an opening to apply the data found through these experimental and niche armors into the creation of a new generation of armor.
-
Some new source of Forerunner technology that blends human and AI consciousness in ways that humanity hasn’t been exposed to will represent the fundamental difference needed to birth a new generation of SPARTANs.
I don’t think so. Even if they further perfect the Spartan formula, it would probably fit under the Spartan IV umbrella.
Spartan Is were an essentially failed project.
Spartan IIs, despite being few in number, was the first true Spartan success, and involved fundamental differences from the previous program.
Spartan IIIs were another fundamental difference from the previous program, being run by Colonel Ackerman, and designed to “mass produce” Spartans with a safer, cheaper augmentation program compared to Spartan IIs.
Spartan IVs were fundamentally different from previous Spartans because the Spartan IV program eliminated the need to use children. Spartan IVs could be made from adult soldiers.
A Spartan V program would need to have similar fundamental differences, like being run by a different military branch or changes to who can be augmented and to what degree.
I don’t think they’d make a whole new program/program. Probably just fold whatever changes and upgrades they get into the Spartan branch.
> 2533274817408735;14:
> A Spartan V program would need to have similar fundamental differences, like being run by a different military branch or changes to who can be augmented and to what degree.
Not necessarily. Look at the differences between the IIs and IIIs: the IIIs had approximately equal augmentations, but inferior armor and greater numbers. They operated similarly, had similar training regiments, and were ultimately lead by the same branch of the military.
> 2533274817408735;14:
> I don’t think so. Even if they further perfect the Spartan formula, it would probably fit under the Spartan IV umbrella.
> Spartan Is were an essentially failed project.
> Spartan IIs, despite being few in number, was the first true Spartan success, and involved fundamental differences from the previous program.
> Spartan IIIs were another fundamental difference from the previous program, being run by Colonel Ackerman, and designed to “mass produce” Spartans with a safer, cheaper augmentation program compared to Spartan IIs.
> Spartan IVs were fundamentally different from previous Spartans because the Spartan IV program eliminated the need to use children. Spartan IVs could be made from adult soldiers.
> A Spartan V program would need to have similar fundamental differences, like being run by a different military branch or changes to who can be augmented and to what degree.
I believe they could further augment current and past Generation Spartans, since no lore can confirm it’s not possible. So essentially, it would all stay under the respective branches of Spartan II, III, or IV, but maybe have special prefixes to signify the uniqueness of those Spartans. Should there be a Spartan Prime augmentation (a name befitting for the title) it would have to be highly modified Spartans, with far more abilities, Forerunner advancements to the armors and body? We know the Librarian released the genesong that was inactive in the Chief, essentially augmenting him further, which is my reason for the belief of this.
Also the armors would be more useful for the idea of being MJOLNIR Prime? Or some special variant that is way more advanced than any human technology, like the Forerunner Prefect armor in the game? I believe if any advancement is to come, it’s going to be armor based mostly or some Forerunner advances to the body learned through the Forerunner technology we continue to find in the series.
Please no. The “Spartan” title is basically already meaningless now, we don’t need to throw another type of Spartan into the mix and dilute the brand even more. Besides, I don’t see improved technology as reason enough to create another Spartan iteration. The previous iterations all saw a distinct difference in selection criteria (II’s were genetically “perfect” children trained to be the best, III’s were war orphans designed to be mass produced, IV’s were adult volunteers). Your ideas for Spartan V’s don’t really differ from the current model that much. They could easily incorporate any technological improvements into the current Spartan IV program.
Spartan-IVs are basically the best super-soldiers you can get without contravening any laws. Any further SPARTAN programs will probably use experienced adult volunteers to avoid backlash, especially since there is no longer any grave threat to the whole of humanity, meaning they’ll probably still fit under the Spartan-IV banner.
Spartan II’s- Augmented super soldiers where a partial amount of the augmented survive.
Spartan III’s- Augmented super soldiers from childhood with nearly 100% survival rate on augmentations.
Spartan IV’s- Any human being can be augmented to pretty much any level with no worries about rate of survival.
Unless we’re going to go the route of genetically engineered baby Spartans then there is no reason for another Spartan program. And if there were such a program in place in the Halo universe by ONI or otherwise I would hope that someone kills them immediately.