The stuff that gets into the Pass was not yet in the shop. I am sure if it was any other way they could get the credits refund.
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Farming out a Prime Set can be quite tedious considering some of the rolls have insane odds. Havenāt played WF in a long time, but I remember it took a buddy of mine over 200 games before he got the Rhino Prime chest piece back in the day.
And either way, that Platinum still has to be bought by other players in order for it to go into rotation on the market, and when itās used in the shop, itās gone forever. Sure you can earn it yourself without spending cash, but it still requires someone to dump money into the game. And to get reasonable amounts of Plat from others requires RNG in your favor which could require dozens of hours of grinding in order to get the correct stuff to trade.
So while yes, there are avenues for someone to get things without spending their own cash, someone still has to buy into the system for it to work in the first place.
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Whatever iffinite is. Aināt it. Halo 5 is AT LEAST better. Not ideal. But definitely better
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Yeah because I heard like the swords for example or some samurai stuff will be put into the event, to make up for their āmarketing mistakeā.
And since they said things you buy will never be freeā¦
I get it, this game hasnāt even been out for a year, thereāll be bumps in the road but Iām sure as hell theyāll make up for it over time 
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Uh, Iām not sure about that one. For one thing the campaign was absolute dog water.
Iāll take a BP with guaranteed items and a shop where you can choose what you want over loot boxes ANY day.
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Ofcourse it was. It was still a complete package tho which is the point
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Yeah halo 5 had quick play, but I swear it was like one or two maps, at least this quick play feels like it has more maps
Oh and has objectives 
Not as much as it was for itās offsetting of gameplay.
Cosmetic anger was used to disregard many valid concerns on Warzone and the REQ system being Pay to Win. There were plenty of Pay to Win threads that just broke down to " Oh you just donāt like that the cosmetics are random" and " No itās just Pay to Win" " no itās random, itās not Pay to Win" āYes it is you can pay for as many chances as you wantā.
Sounds similar to now actually.
Sounds pretty chunky.
It was criticized heavily for both, for different reasons obviously, but it would be intellectually dishonest to pretend that Halo 5ās cosmetic system was held in high regard.
Not to mention that most cosmetics look like hot garbage but thatās a matter of taste.
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Ofcourse it was. It was still a complete package tho which is the point
So despite having a monetization system that exploits gambling addiction, a story that was pretty much hated by everyone, and gameplay that folks were pretty divided on, the only important thing is that it checked off arbitrary boxes to be a ācomplete packageā?
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Lmao not to mention it also took 2 months for the game to have Forge and no split-screen coop at all. Not to mention it also lacked classic modes for a very long time.
I mean Infinite is taking longer to add these features than 5, but Iād rather have a game that is good eventually than one that is bad forever, despite being a ācomplete package.ā
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The server issues I would imagine have to be pretty high priority, but probably also require much more effort in terms of debugging and testing. Talking about the cosmetics and the shop are an easy way to try to mitigate bad press in the immediate term. For things like bugs and whatnot, a lot of developers are pretty tight lipped until they have a lot of confidence in a given root cause or solution. I wouldnāt take it as a sign that those issues are being ignored.
Yeah, I wasnāt trying to make it seem like it was to be held in high regard at all, just pointing out that it had a deeper level of divide in the community besides just the cosmetic aspect.
LMAO. first of all. There are people that like the campgain. I donāt even hate it all that much myself. The pacing was just bad.
Second of all itās not gambling if literally everything in that game can be wanted through playing. Many did it. I did it. I had everything in the game within the first few months and the game is 6 years old. So that definitely isnāt an argument.
Actually the gameplay was the one thing people liked about the game the most
But letās run down what Halo 5 had at launch that infinite didnāt.
Classic weapons like the carbine and smg
Custom game options that were only in halo 5 and custom game options for the abilites which ifinite doesnāt have.
Breakout.
Warzone.
The list goes on my guy. Itās more of a comeplete package and there is more to do in the game right now. That is an objective fact that you canāt argue
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Shouldnāt this have been an announcement here?
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Gamers got conditioned so hard that they forgot about the things that actually matter.
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Classic weapons like the carbine and smg
Halo 2 didnāt have the assault rifle so itās an incomplete game and Halo Infinite is obviously better because it has an AR.
See how stupid that sounds?
Custom game options that were only in halo 5 and custom game options for the abilites which ifinite doesnāt have.
Dang this is such a huge deal.
Breakout. Warzone.
And Halo Infinite has things that Halo 5 doesnāt have. Who cares and what does that have to do with anything?
The list goes on my guy. Itās more of a comeplete package and there is more to do in the game right now.
idk sounds like Halo 5 is bad because Halo Infinite has an open world. Maybe Halo 5 is the REAL incomplete package.
Second of all itās not gambling if literally everything in that game can be wanted through playing.
Weāve truly entered the darkest timeline when gamers defend lootboxes only a few years after every game had them.
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Youāve gotten the cause and effect wrong.
This monetization method did not happen because they made it f2p, f2p happened because they wanted to monetize in this fashion.
The most profitable business model in the past few years has been to release a free product to increase accessibility, and charge the players for QoL or cosmetics.
Some games do it well in a good balance (Warframe, Destiny 2 etc.) while others are straight up ripoffs (every single gacha game)
Iām willing to believe 343 is learning and experimenting, but cmon, itās no coincidence that the way they designed the monetization and progression is just predatory. Itās like no one in their marketing team thought to stop them from pushing it out because it will 100% make the playerbase angry.
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The shop, Battle Passes and challenges are very prominent, so it makes sense for people to want to talk about those.
Other problems with the game are also important, but I guess people might be thinking those will obviously get fixed while the cosmetics and rewards might not.