As someone very familiar with f2p games, all this encourages people to do is just log in, do the dailies, and log out. I see this all the time in f2p games. People never actually play, and logging in for the daily tasks becomes a chore instead of being fun. You feel obligated to do it, or you miss out. It’s just abusing FOMO.
All this will encourage people to do is just pop a 2XP booster, afk 6 matches, and log out, because they will get rewarded for doing nothing, and have no reason to bother trying or playing past 6 matches, because their boosters and time won’t be well spent. They could have at least given us “Win any match” as a new 2nd daily for 100 XP, or maybe “Win 3 matches” for 250 XP, so people actually try to play the objectives. “Stay Positive” was a great challenge in MCC, just have a positive KD. That will encourage people to put effort in, and they can’t afk abuse that challenge.
Comment a good bandaid challenge that 343 should add, since they say they want feedback on this update. Choose something you can’t afk abuse.
This is currently quite a big problem, not just in the bot playlist but every playlist
It’s a problem 343i created with this challenge-only progression & it’ll only continue to persist, it really sucks that Infinite has the battle pass as the only form of progression.
We’re talking about 343… What did you assume? They will yoink it up with their ideas until they realize that’s not what People want. Changes will come but expect some years until it’s Good.
Complaints about their “smart” System exists since first flight. There are great solutions but These People know it better…
Making it F2P is actually Good to gain Player but they implemented it in the worst way they could imagine. Forcing crossplay, Progression System That’s for afk Player, customization System for whales, events to force player play modes they don’t want,…
6 games a day for one level if battlepass vs 20… not bad, not bad at all…
I mean if this was an issue wouldent the weekly challanges be much more of an issue since they actively encourage plays to play in specific ways, often against winning.
This way at least some people will “just play” normally now.
I think that’s an unrealistic way of looking at how and why people play games.
So far I’ve played over 250 matches and I’ve seen zero players AFK for more than 10 seconds.
If people want to grind exp they will do it in bot bootcamp because it’s the fastest method, and that has a much less detrimental effect on other players.
Yeah people play against the objective anyway, but when you finish the weekly challenges, you have nothing else to attempt, so now they’re encouraging daily idle XP farming, which creates an unhealthy habit many gamers suffer from
“no lifers” like me already got more XP out of the old change with the 50xp because I play more then 25 Matches.
This change is great for all the “Family and Work”-Gamers who do not have the time to play a lot of matches. As they can still get 1 Level a day + a bit XP if they are lucky with the challenges.
I, currently with no Job and a pseudo-lockdown am already at Level 50. This pass will stay for 6 months. Progression speed in the Pass itself is less of a problem then the lack of a overall Meta Progression (Rank) and the lack of unlocks in the Pass.
I’ve also played as many matches, but I played with teammates that rubberband their controller sticks together, even in ranked, just to not have to play, and to avoid being booted for inactivity. I’ve seen it unfortunately more than I should, people spinning in place or running straight against walls. 343 caused this behavior.
Finally a post with an actual valid concern about the new change! I agree, for the meantime it’s a less than ideal solution.
However I for one am personally much happier with the prospect of logging on once a day and having six games, than logging on once per week .
These XP bonuses are awarded daily, prior to this change once you’d completed all your challenges (which you can easily do in 2 evenings) you were left with basically no reason to play other than enjoyment of the game or for the minute amount of XP you get. Now you have an excuse to play at least six games a day. And that’s a positive.
Well I personally know after myself playing many gacha games, 343 is encouraging even me to speedrun the weeklies and give no effort in the dailies every day. Nobody wants to do the objective, so I’m just unmotivated to give 100% to the match. Every f2p gacha I’ve played is the same, to the point I even have an autoclicker app for some. I really was hoping Halo wouldn’t turn into this, but people are clearly afk walking in circles for XP. I won’t afk, but it’s really discouraging to see people abusing it
I think it’s good to take comfort in the fact that this is clearly a band aid solution whilst they commit to something greater, that hopefully the community will enjoy. And if that doesn’t happen, then it’s very easy to justify putting down the game.
Basically you need to play 6 games for 100 days and you’ll max the battle pass. That’s a lot better than before but still, having it reduce over time will, like you say get people to reach their 6th game and then leave for the day.
In all seriousness it’s a massive improvement over having next to no XP a day without boosts because your challenges are all complete in 2 evenings.
I’m a massive supporter of a reach style XP system, and you’re right it can be changed to that but it will take time. In their post they committed to making a larger improvement and hopefully something similar to reach will be considered.
Edited my post with “Stay Positive” challenge for positive KD from MCC. Comment a good bandaid challenge that 343 should add, since they say they want feedback on this update. Choose something you can’t afk abuse.
