New Social Betrayal Too Harsh

I feel that the betrayal punishments are way to harsh especially for social arena. Like I can maybe see the kick or a vote to kick system because ofc you don’t want to promote that but at the same time its social playlist and betrayals can be accidents of battle in halo which is why they exist. but I will get back to that later I want to put a few examples from myself and what I have seen from others on this.

I personally ran into this while playing shotty snipers with some buddies. About a quarter way into the game there is a huge Snipe battle going across the map where both teams are group up on opposite sides trying to snipe each other. When I take my shot and thrust backwards turns out my shot didn’t hit the enemy but a friendly that walked in front of my crosshairs are the last second as I pulled the trigger and delinked and killed my ally with 1 shot to the head.
Later in the game my friend was saying how the dude at the bottom of our team (which was technically just feeding the enemy team) was starting to betray him for no reason killing him twice in a row. when I saw said player on my team I betrayed him basically to send a message saying “stop betraying teammates”. then continued playing the game as normal . Later I was in a 1v2 and cleaned up some kills by taking out the attackers but the same dude that was betraying people comes up and attempts to shotgun me in the back and then continues to try to betray me with the shotgun at close range he misses a few shots and gets my shields down.
I’m sorry if this offends people but I don’t take fights weather its friend of foe sitting down if someone is shooting me I’m going to shoot back. I suppose the bigger thing would of been to just let the betrayer kill me and let him take the punishment but I turned around a I pumped one shell into his body and killed him. For those 3 betrayals (1 accident, 1 purposeful, and 1 defensive reflex) I got kicked from the game.
I thought okay its just a kick I didn’t like playing with that guy anyway I was still having fun overall. After my friend finished the game he had time for one more game but to our surprise I received a ban from all arena matchmaking for Idk how long.

Another example is people having issues in grifball with betrayal kicks I mean when you give people power weapons that can kill in one hit in social arena accidents happen stupid stuff happens. What if someone just instead of trolling by betraying he basically forced betrayals by walking inform of shots or power weapon users kicking people by making them kill him unintentionally.

My point is the ban is way too harsh in my opinion, maybe if someone is a repeat offender but for someone who dose it once and awhile? I mean I can accept the kick or vote to kick system but a ban for like example for me is first offense. its social arena multiplayer its purpose is to just have fun with people. A 3 betrayal kick&ban no matter the causes whether its an accident or not in my opinion is too harsh. I’m not a person who goes around killing my teammates I’m a teamplayer I support high assists, medium to high kills and low deaths most games (sometimes I die a lot but eh). Ranked arena go ahead I won’t complain on a betrayal ban for ranked because there is no excuse for betrayals like that in arena (even then -yoink- dose happen) .

Feel free too voice your opinions. This is my opinion and I love to hear what all of you think. Do you like this betrayal punishment system? Do you not? What do you like or dislike? Do you have any suggestions for change?

As always, Good luck and don’t forget to have fun!
-Xythazar

In Griffball the system seems excessive ; however social , while a fun and relaxed mode , should also resemble the ranked playlist that it is emulating. The social playlist is , at it’s core , practice for less skilled players to get familiar with the games systems and mechanics. If the systems and mechanics differ , the mode does no good at preparing players for the ranked version of this playlist.

I can see toning it down some however , because as previously mentioned , it should be practice for less skilled players ; and shouldn’t be held to the same strict standards as a ranked playlist.

Ban related traffic goes in the ban thread which is linked in my signature. Killing your teammates is bad, you shouldn’t kill your teammates.