It has a drum barrel and you got to to pump it like bro you kidding me doesn’t even one shot like the old pump shotgun. It shoots fast and has more range though although semiautomatic would’ve been better in my opinion. Also only 7 shots. REALLY?
I think it needs to be balanced a little more, but it’s not too far off.
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> It has a drum barrel and you got to to pump it like bro you kidding me doesn’t even one shot like the old pump shotgun. It shoots fast and has more range though although semiautomatic would’ve been better in my opinion. Also only 7 shots. REALLY?
The Bulldog is not a power weapon, it is not designed to be a one-shot
I’ve said this before…huge opportunity missed by 343. Why try to add a shotgun that nobody asked for. Because nothing is going to beat the original especially the sound chambering a round with that tubing sound as the flood and zombies close in around you. As far as the big missed opportunity that 343 could have had as well as Microsoft. As thrown in an Easter egg and make a double barrel shotgun. As they added lure to the weapons and armor sets they could have been like oh this double barrel shotgun is part of project code named (D)elta (O)scar (O)mega (M)ike. didn’t even have to be an Easter egg but a double barrel shotgun would have been awesome not to mention the sounds that they could have created and the reload animations for it to make it a real iconic weapon.
343 has previously stated that the Bulldog is not a power weapon (tier 3) but rather a middle-tier (tier 2) weapon. Think of it more like Halo 3’s Mauler rather than the classic Shotgun. I’d expect to see the normal Shotgun return in the full game.
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> > It has a drum barrel and you got to to pump it like bro you kidding me doesn’t even one shot like the old pump shotgun. It shoots fast and has more range though although semiautomatic would’ve been better in my opinion. Also only 7 shots. REALLY?
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> The Bulldog is not a power weapon, it is not designed to be a one-shot
This is a -Yoinking!- shotgun ! To kill a ennemie ,we have to shoot 2 time in point blank (or 3 when it’s buggy). ALL the old shotguns you could oneshot but not this one. It’s a piece of -Yoink-
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> 343 has previously stated that the Bulldog is not a power weapon (tier 3) but rather a middle-tier (tier 2) weapon. Think of it more like Halo 3’s Mauler rather than the classic Shotgun. I’d expect to see the normal Shotgun return in the full game.
Even as a mid tier weapon it feels pretty weak to me. I actually stopped picking it up after a while because I found it so ineffective. I think it needs a bit more range to really shine.
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> > > It has a drum barrel and you got to to pump it like bro you kidding me doesn’t even one shot like the old pump shotgun. It shoots fast and has more range though although semiautomatic would’ve been better in my opinion. Also only 7 shots. REALLY?
> >
> > The Bulldog is not a power weapon, it is not designed to be a one-shot
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> This is a -Yoinking!- shotgun ! To kill a ennemie ,we have to shoot 2 time in point blank (or 3 when it’s buggy). ALL the old shotguns you could oneshot but not this one. It’s a piece of -Yoink-
I’ll explain this in a way that should be easy for you to understand.
The Shotguns from the older games were power weapons. very limited range, slow rate of fire but they one-shot everything. It’s on the same level as a Sniper Rifle or Energy Sword.
The Bulldog is not a power weapon, it is a loadout weapon like the Battle Rifle, DMR, Commando, etc. It is not designed to be a one-shot kill. It is designed to be an effective close range weapon that sits right next to the SMG in terms of functionality. This is to have people who enjoy close range combat have an easy to acquire weapon for close range combat. It is not the old shotgun, it is not meant to be the old shotgun, it is an entirely different weapon in function and style.
Because the Bulldog and Old Shotgun are different weapons that work differently, there is room for 343 to add, if they haven’t already, the old shotgun and have it spawn on weapon pads on a map.
The new shotty doesn’t suck, and if you think it does 1v1 me when the game releases and I’ll waffle stomp you so hard you’ll start Yoinking! shotgun shells.
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> > 343 has previously stated that the Bulldog is not a power weapon (tier 3) but rather a middle-tier (tier 2) weapon. Think of it more like Halo 3’s Mauler rather than the classic Shotgun. I’d expect to see the normal Shotgun return in the full game.
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> Even as a mid tier weapon it feels pretty weak to me. I actually stopped picking it up after a while because I found it so ineffective. I think it needs a bit more range to really shine.
I’d agree with improving the range to make it feel more consistent. I was most successful using it with a shoot-to-melee combo, but I’d never carry it without a precision weapon (like the Sidekick) as switching to something else to clean-up the kill felt better if the enemy was running away or backpedaling.
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> > > > It has a drum barrel and you got to to pump it like bro you kidding me doesn’t even one shot like the old pump shotgun. It shoots fast and has more range though although semiautomatic would’ve been better in my opinion. Also only 7 shots. REALLY?
> > >
> > > The Bulldog is not a power weapon, it is not designed to be a one-shot
> >
> > This is a -Yoinking!- shotgun ! To kill a ennemie ,we have to shoot 2 time in point blank (or 3 when it’s buggy). ALL the old shotguns you could oneshot but not this one. It’s a piece of -Yoink-
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> I’ll explain this in a way that should be easy for you to understand.
>
> The Shotguns from the older games were power weapons. very limited range, slow rate of fire but they one-shot everything. It’s on the same level as a Sniper Rifle or Energy Sword.
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> The Bulldog is not a power weapon, it is a loadout weapon like the Battle Rifle, DMR, Commando, etc. It is not designed to be a one-shot kill. It is designed to be an effective close range weapon that sits right next to the SMG in terms of functionality. This is to have people who enjoy close range combat have an easy to acquire weapon for close range combat. It is not the old shotgun, it is not meant to be the old shotgun, it is an entirely different weapon in function and style.
>
> Because the Bulldog and Old Shotgun are different weapons that work differently, there is room for 343 to add, if they haven’t already, the old shotgun and have it spawn on weapon pads on a map.
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> The new shotty doesn’t suck, and if you think it does 1v1 me when the game releases and I’ll waffle stomp you so hard you’ll start Yoinking! shotgun shells.
Before they delayed the game a year they said the classic shotgun was a post launch weapon. I wonder if with the extra year and demand from the fans it ends up being there at launch.
The old shotgun should be there, but the Bulldog is it’s own thing and still effective on its own. If you’re having problems getting kills with it then I don’t know how to help you. 2-3 shots and you’re dead. You can EASILY kill 2 enemies with one drum.
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> > > > > It has a drum barrel and you got to to pump it like bro you kidding me doesn’t even one shot like the old pump shotgun. It shoots fast and has more range though although semiautomatic would’ve been better in my opinion. Also only 7 shots. REALLY?
> > > >
> > > > The Bulldog is not a power weapon, it is not designed to be a one-shot
> > >
> > > This is a -Yoinking!- shotgun ! To kill a ennemie ,we have to shoot 2 time in point blank (or 3 when it’s buggy). ALL the old shotguns you could oneshot but not this one. It’s a piece of -Yoink-
> >
> > I’ll explain this in a way that should be easy for you to understand.
> >
> > The Shotguns from the older games were power weapons. very limited range, slow rate of fire but they one-shot everything. It’s on the same level as a Sniper Rifle or Energy Sword.
> >
> > The Bulldog is not a power weapon, it is a loadout weapon like the Battle Rifle, DMR, Commando, etc. It is not designed to be a one-shot kill. It is designed to be an effective close range weapon that sits right next to the SMG in terms of functionality. This is to have people who enjoy close range combat have an easy to acquire weapon for close range combat. It is not the old shotgun, it is not meant to be the old shotgun, it is an entirely different weapon in function and style.
> >
> > Because the Bulldog and Old Shotgun are different weapons that work differently, there is room for 343 to add, if they haven’t already, the old shotgun and have it spawn on weapon pads on a map.
> >
> > The new shotty doesn’t suck, and if you think it does 1v1 me when the game releases and I’ll waffle stomp you so hard you’ll start Yoinking! shotgun shells.
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> Before they delayed the game a year they said the classic shotgun was a post launch weapon. I wonder if with the extra year and demand from the fans it ends up being there at launch.
It would fit the “Reach” theme for the first Season
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> > > > > > It has a drum barrel and you got to to pump it like bro you kidding me doesn’t even one shot like the old pump shotgun. It shoots fast and has more range though although semiautomatic would’ve been better in my opinion. Also only 7 shots. REALLY?
> > > > >
> > > > > The Bulldog is not a power weapon, it is not designed to be a one-shot
> > > >
> > > > This is a -Yoinking!- shotgun ! To kill a ennemie ,we have to shoot 2 time in point blank (or 3 when it’s buggy). ALL the old shotguns you could oneshot but not this one. It’s a piece of -Yoink-
> > >
> > > I’ll explain this in a way that should be easy for you to understand.
> > >
> > > The Shotguns from the older games were power weapons. very limited range, slow rate of fire but they one-shot everything. It’s on the same level as a Sniper Rifle or Energy Sword.
> > >
> > > The Bulldog is not a power weapon, it is a loadout weapon like the Battle Rifle, DMR, Commando, etc. It is not designed to be a one-shot kill. It is designed to be an effective close range weapon that sits right next to the SMG in terms of functionality. This is to have people who enjoy close range combat have an easy to acquire weapon for close range combat. It is not the old shotgun, it is not meant to be the old shotgun, it is an entirely different weapon in function and style.
> > >
> > > Because the Bulldog and Old Shotgun are different weapons that work differently, there is room for 343 to add, if they haven’t already, the old shotgun and have it spawn on weapon pads on a map.
> > >
> > > The new shotty doesn’t suck, and if you think it does 1v1 me when the game releases and I’ll waffle stomp you so hard you’ll start Yoinking! shotgun shells.
> >
> > Before they delayed the game a year they said the classic shotgun was a post launch weapon. I wonder if with the extra year and demand from the fans it ends up being there at launch.
>
> It would fit the “Reach” theme for the first Season
It would be cool to have it or the dmr added once the season completes.
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> The old shotgun should be there, but the Bulldog is it’s own thing and still effective on its own. If you’re having problems getting kills with it then I don’t know how to help you. 2-3 shots and you’re dead. You can EASILY kill 2 enemies with one drum.
I don’t have so much problem with a gun itself my main problem with it is nobody asked for UNSC shotgun. It’s mind-blowing the wasted opportunity that 343 had to give us a mid-tier brute shotgun. Or some crazy covenant shotgun. Given the game isn’t out yet so we don’t know but it would have been better received if it was like the upgraded version of the molar as the molar had a drum and I bet the design would have been much much better. Then people could understand hey this gun’s like the molar it doesn’t clap but it’s fun to use.
Honestly it’s just a reskined mauler
This topic is already so tired, and it’s beyond evident that people don’t understand 343’s philosophy behind the shotgun redesign. The fact of the matter is the OG shotgun was long overdue a re-work, it OHK yes, but at nothing more than melee range. This shotgun has lower damage with much more generous range and a healthy magazine, granting it greater versatility without making it too strong. It’s far more interesting than the OG shotgun ever was for these reasons.
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> > The old shotgun should be there, but the Bulldog is it’s own thing and still effective on its own. If you’re having problems getting kills with it then I don’t know how to help you. 2-3 shots and you’re dead. You can EASILY kill 2 enemies with one drum.
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> I don’t have so much problem with a gun itself my main problem with it is nobody asked for UNSC shotgun. It’s mind-blowing the wasted opportunity that 343 had to give us a mid-tier brute shotgun. Or some crazy covenant shotgun. Given the game isn’t out yet so we don’t know but it would have been better received if it was like the upgraded version of the molar as the molar had a drum and I bet the design would have been much much better. Then people could understand hey this gun’s like the molar it doesn’t clap but it’s fun to use.
- Its not your game lol. And they have the creative freedom to make a game the way they see fit. Games don’t stay the same for 20 years I’m sorry. I can just play mcc.
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> > > The old shotgun should be there, but the Bulldog is it’s own thing and still effective on its own. If you’re having problems getting kills with it then I don’t know how to help you. 2-3 shots and you’re dead. You can EASILY kill 2 enemies with one drum.
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> > I don’t have so much problem with a gun itself my main problem with it is nobody asked for UNSC shotgun. It’s mind-blowing the wasted opportunity that 343 had to give us a mid-tier brute shotgun. Or some crazy covenant shotgun. Given the game isn’t out yet so we don’t know but it would have been better received if it was like the upgraded version of the molar as the molar had a drum and I bet the design would have been much much better. Then people could understand hey this gun’s like the molar it doesn’t clap but it’s fun to use.
>
> 1. Its not your game lol. And they have the creative freedom to make a game the way they see fit. Games don’t stay the same for 20 years I’m sorry. I can just play mcc.
I’d also like to point out that nobody said that there isn’t going to be a Banished/Covenant version of the shotgun in the game. Maybe it just hasn’t been revealed.
I agree, needs some sort of buff. Any shotgun shouldn’t need two hits to kill.
The gun is fine! You just have to hit your shots kiddos. It only takes 3 shots to kill. lol