True Skill has seemed to have gone A.W.O.L, games are mess due to been matched up with anyone.
I had a game the other day were three Platinum One’s went plus and a Platinum Three went minus by at least 10, looking at his K/D it was good and that is the simple fact he’s been carried by better players. And I will even say I’ve suffered the same fate been place against better players, the way it stands at the moment rank is meaningless.
Same with the Halo 4 ranking up system, you didn’t have to do good and you would still earn about 1000-2000 points per game, maybe how many kills or something like that. Or if your at the top of the leaderboard you get more points then the others (I’m just guessing I haven’t played Halo5 yet)
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> I have had so many games where I go 20 and 10, or something along those lines and still lose skill! This is due to all of my other team members going horribly negative. They need to revamp the system fast because so many players are in the wrong tier. If somone goes 2 and 17 they are not Diamond, and I shouldn’t suffer for their poor play!
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> I have had so many games where I go 20 and 10, or something along those lines and still lose skill! This is due to all of my other team members going horribly negative. They need to revamp the system fast because so many players are in the wrong tier. If somone goes 2 and 17 they are not Diamond, and I shouldn’t suffer for their poor play!
This is accurate! I hate hate doing so well and losing because I am stuck with people who do not have the same (or even similar) skill level as myself. I haven’t been able to move up in Swat at all thanks to it. Nor has my team slayer gone up (to be fair I have super terrible games myself there so that’s partially on me). It’s disappointing to come out of a game so well and see my rank go down (or just sit at the same diamond one and never move). A revamp would be soooo nice, and I think is much needed.
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> The whole ranking system is a mess, they should had used the halo reach ranking system
lol hell no…
Get a team to play with instead?
You almost have the reach rankingsystem ( in the form of CSR )
The more you play the higher number you get.
It was exactly the same in reach…
Everyone has an opinion and preference on this but I feel i sort of understand why it’s this way now
For me Halo 2 set the trend, you when you win you rank up, you loose and so you go down, I could only get as far as 27/30’s Rank etc… that was my level, it was fair, i had my zone and i accepted it. I had friends ranked higher, i sometimes remember how they would bring in higher random ranks and everyone else would do well accept for me, after the match it was my friend that was usually asked to come join them but not me. Again, i understood why and accepted it
Gears of War 2 had a true skill ranking system in it’s first qtr when released, 5 different Ranks, I made it to rank 4, i remember a lot of Gears 1 friends feeling down, frustrated how they struggled to get a rank 3 let alone 4. I also knew skill wise 1v1 they were better than me, I was just better at coordinating with a win and so we’d win tons more matches just on the team work.
A few month afterwards Epic, developer of Gears back then adjusted the true skill, it all became points based, even when you lost players still got point and ranked up, then came the high level ranked players who where actually realy bad at the game, it felt like Gears was just match players with each other if their rank levels where close, not based on skill.
I can also understand why this happened but also after Gears Of War 2 i saw it appearing in lots of other games,
The average Jo playing games aren’t good players, skill wise, they are most of the time dead weight, but dead weight players can put in just as much time as a solid, good player, so it’s harsh for them to play for tons of hours and not be rewarded for it
this is why i think ranking has gone the way it is, players need to be rewarded for their time spent, also, you could make more playlists but then how many would you need for this and for that,
for me the best solution for now, get a team of your own, it’s also another reason why Stacked teams started to show up on games besides it’s just being friends who know each other, Skilled players are feed up of the bad players on their team so they get a Crew, … now we also get pub stomping in games
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> I have had so many games where I go 20 and 10, or something along those lines and still lose skill! This is due to all of my other team members going horribly negative. They need to revamp the system fast because so many players are in the wrong tier. If somone goes 2 and 17 they are not Diamond, and I shouldn’t suffer for their poor play!
how ablut instead of complaining about this type of thing people like you try to help others like me get better at the game.
The system is Fine.
I mean yes u loose some games couse of other players… but not always and not the most time .,… and i think if u cant carry the team out in elo u shouldnt rank up to the next. This system is in much Online games and it works at all. 30% of player or 20% dont cry and carry the -Yoink- out till diamond and higher and than they have no problems and the rest of community just flame cry leave and rage in the forum.
Its the system bla bla bla
i was silver at start and not that good but i getting better all time i play and can carry higher and higher and now i am Platin and Diamond couse i dont cry and just play and get better .
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> The system is Fine.
> I mean yes u loose some games couse of other players… but not always and not the most time .,… and i think if u cant carry the team out in elo u shouldnt rank up to the next. This system is in much Online games and it works at all. 30% of player or 20% dont cry and carry the -Yoink- out till diamond and higher and than they have no problems and the rest of community just flame cry leave and rage in the forum.
> Its the system bla bla bla
> i was silver at start and not that good but i getting better all time i play and can carry higher and higher and now i am Platin and Diamond couse i dont cry and just play and get better .
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> sry for bad english ;D
Yeah…no.
It shouldn’t take for one person to get around 45 kills to go up one level.
That’s just, stupid. Halo 5 is an attempt at more competitive play, but…yeah no.
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> I have had so many games where I go 20 and 10, or something along those lines and still lose skill! This is due to all of my other team members going horribly negative. They need to revamp the system fast because so many players are in the wrong tier. If somone goes 2 and 17 they are not Diamond, and I shouldn’t suffer for their poor play!
I agree. I am ONYX in SWAT and DIAMOND in F4A. But I feel like I shouldn’t be because I’ve lost most matches and I sucked in quite a few. I don’t like the fact that your teams have to win in order for you to rank up. It should be for individual players. If you carry your losing team on your back and get over half the kills with a few deaths, then you should be rewarded for that. I don’t see why they have it this way. Doesn’t make sense.
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> > I have had so many games where I go 20 and 10, or something along those lines and still lose skill! This is due to all of my other team members going horribly negative. They need to revamp the system fast because so many players are in the wrong tier. If somone goes 2 and 17 they are not Diamond, and I shouldn’t suffer for their poor play!
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> I agree. I am ONYX in SWAT and DIAMOND in F4A. But I feel like I shouldn’t be because I’ve lost most matches and I sucked in quite a few. I don’t like the fact that your teams have to win in order for you to rank up. It should be for individual players. If you carry your losing team on your back and get over half the kills with a few deaths, then you should be rewarded for that. I don’t see why they have it this way. Doesn’t make sense.
Playing games like this is seen as an competitive sport some might say, its human nature to be rewarded for winning but not for loosing. It makes the winning all the more worth while, worth fighting for. Just like how there are leagues in sport for teams and players on different levels of skill. Work ur way up the league to go against the big boys, the top guns, but you have to beat those immediately around you first.
Also, there always going to be a guy that does better than the rest of the team but still be on the loosing team, when that happens that player needs to help the rest of the team, not play for himself, if you play for yourself then FFA is the game for you
Better still, build your own team, plenty of players build teams round themselves, because they haven insight, able to read the game but also share that insight with others, do that and players will follow you because they can see that what you know and do actually works
Can 343 just give it a rest with the whole “play with others!” crap, Most players like to be a lone wolf, like myself, we don’t need to be forced with other players. Its worked just fine in previous Halo’s but once again 343 wants to fix something that ISN’T broken. A SINGLE PERSONS rank should not be based on TEAM work, thats the most limited system i’ve ever heard of. A SINGLE PERSONS rank should be based off THAT PERSONS stats in said game. “We got pros in to help us with multiplayer”, it sounds like you got a bunch of random idiots off the street and asked them what you should do.
Cannot wait for backwards compat to get here and for Halo 3 to be added, that was probably one of the best ranking systems used in a FPS game. Heck even The Master Chief Collection has a better ranking system then Halo 5 at the moment.
Its actually interesting because my friend who won all their 10 qualification games (4 of which were perfections) and had a 2.0 kd ended up getting placed in Platinum 1? Don’t know what actually determines this “ranking system” as clearly just winning isnt enough.