The answer is surely somewhere between 1-117 for sure Darwi. I really do enjoy this ranking system it’s just not pleasing and frustrating at times to fully understand.
It’s the CSR scale. 1 to 1800 is just silly.
The system just isn’t that precise.
But people are putting insane value into a handful of points. There is no way you can say someone with 1305 is better than a 1300. And that’s on the same server. It’s even harder to compare numbers across servers… or across the world.
Your rank should unfold over time. Not game to game.
1 to 117 would be perfect.
You could make it 1 to 100 to cover the current 1-1500.
Each rank spot would be equivalent to a current 15 CSR. So it would take 3 to 5 wins (or losses) to change a spot. And winning (or losing) the maximum of 15 would only change your rank by 1 spot.
The “onyx” ranks, 100 to 117 then take you out to what is now Onyx 1755.
You can just cap it there. You don’t need to go higher. It’s just not worth it. Apart from encouraging a toxic grind - it just doesn’t hold any accuracy.
You can award anyone who gets to 117 as “Champion”.
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This. There’s no special hidden “agenda”
Just curious - what is the max obtainable level right now … Onyx 1,500 I guess? What happens if you ever max out? it just stays at that # ?
The system is effectively open ended.
0 to 1800 is the curve. Or at least plus or minus three standard deviations from a mean of 900.
About 0.1% of players would be expected to drift outside that.
Nice. Has anyone surpassed 1800 yet?
Halo Tracker’s leader boards have about 450 sitting over 1800.
The top CSR is about 2397
Lucid sits at 2272
I suspect the vast majority of people over 1600 are actually grinders who have manipulated the squads to ever so slowly push their CSR up.
Damn. Thats wild. And I’m worried about ranking up my Plat 2 
I don’t believe there is an actual “max” CSR level. It just continues to go up.
This reminds me of Halo 5 ranking and I liked that at least the top 200 players were awarded this “champion” emblem to represent as a playlist legend! Halo Infinite must reward it’s players with something along those lines in addition to the overall progression system for the game to sustain for years to come. Or, the “10 year plan” that Halo Infinite is on.
Yep. It’s open ended. But it shouldn’t be (at least for CSR).
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It’s a good concept.
But H5 was such an awful implementation.
What does “top 200” even mean?
The CSR lacks precision. There is no difference between a 1300 and a 1301. Even a 1300 and a 1310.
And if you can’t differentiate players to a few points on the same server - how do you compare players across servers. Or across the world.
In H5 you ended up with people desperately logging on in the first few minutes of the season to get “champion” status before the rest of the population had started playing. So 343 had to change it so you couldn’t be champion until a couple of weeks had passed.
For Infinite - we already have a “toxic” grind of CSR. Can you imagine how much squad manipulation and strategic quitting will happen if players could grind for a “Champion Badge”.
What I would do is award points for winning in your division.
1 point for a win. 0 points for a loss. -1 point for a quit.
At the end of the Season award rewards based on your wins in each division.
eg. Some sort of recognition for getting 50 wins in any division. And something for 100. Or 250, etc.
And then take the top 5% of wins and award them Season Champion awards.
That way people are encouraged to keep coming back to rank and grinding wins as opposed to grinding CSR, or even worse, staying in social.
I mean, how awesome would it be to have leader boards for each division. For age groups. For regions.
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I agree more incentive is a big thing for so many. I feel that’s an easy thing to give too
Look at my day man I literally have to be an absolute monster just to squeeze wins out. It’s becoming insane I’m really noticing a lot of ppl manipulating the background mmr. A major amount actually. There can’t be a hidden rank and visual rank. It needs a rework my win percentage last 3 days is abysmal I’m getting guys I’ve never seen before going negative ten every game and not helping teammates out. I’m playing because I love the game but I wish this was a hotter topic. I’ve gone from 52% win to a 49% in 3 days at almost a thousand games. That follows my 18 game losing streak earlier in January. There was also a game today I was given a p6 d3 and d3 while I was in d4 against 2 onyx 2 d6. Carried lost. Ofcourse lower ranked guys got worked. That’s background rank manipulation at its finest and I’m eating it’s ongoing sandwich. The only thing saving me is -6 for losses and +10 for wins. Ugh
10W and 11L.
If you mean you had to “carry” the side?
I mean. Yeah. You took on a fair bit of the load. With a KD of 1.4
But that’s the onus of a wider spread of ranks. If you are the higher ranked player you have to have a higher KD.
But the game isn’t expecting you to play any better than your skill level.
And that’s an important distinction.
A lower ranked player may be sweating just as much, if not harder, and still go negative. They might be expected to go 5 and 10 for example - but if they go 5 and 8, or 7 and 10, they are actually “carrying” the team by +2 themselves.
Similarly you may be expected to go 20 & 10… but if you go 18 & 10, or 20 & 12 - you are actually letting the team down.
It’s all a relative contribution.
Again. Mindset. Your visual rank is just that. It is your rank.
The MMR is your “form”. It swings. But you don’t need to know it.
42W and 57L in your last five days.
So about a 42% win rate. Not sure how that qualifies as “abysmal”.
That is a tough one.
You do occasionally get match ups like that. Squads who have been waiting too long.
But the good news is that if the result falls as expected then there is little damage done to your MMR.
Manipulators tend to favour team mates much lower than D6.
Which is good. It suggests that your MMR is higher than your CSR - and the system is trying to rank you up.
You just have to be patient and take your chances.
I messaged you before the wins started coming lol it was 28% on the day (major eye roll)
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I’ve been camping for a few days. Somewhat off grid.
Nice! Better then winter here right now. -20 degrees Celsius this morning. No camping for me lol
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Supposedly still summer here.
Rained all day.
At one stage we were sitting around the campfire under umbrellas.