Please check out the photo, this game was a massively long game - reason being the leader powers kept on wiping out my army every single time.
Just to win I had to bait out the leader ability’s destroying a main base slowly!!
I think knock down her leader powers a little would be great
units I used mostly
Locust - Grunts - Elite Ranger - Hunters - Reavers
Depending on what he threw at me I changed my units around.
Insane game
I thought the same thing. I’m playing as Ship Master. I’ve got my army out and attacking his base(s). Meanwhile he keeps an army at his main base and is just using his Leader to walk into my bases that are cloaked and have a shield up. Drops them in seconds and destroys 4/7 buildings in the first 15 seconds. Takes the main base halfway down.
I won this match without much effort (i’m guessing he couldn’t macro his leader at my base and his army at the same time). But just watching how one unit can just walk in and take out your base is crazy.
I did play 1 match against her that I couldn’t do nothing. He rushed my in the first couple minutes. I managed to fend it off but they left me severely crippled at my only base. I had majority of the mini base pads that kept me in the fight. It didn’t however because the Leader’s hero came in and dropped all the shields and halfway health. With an army bunched with the hero’ my base was gone almost as quick as a sentinel rush -.-
I managed to drag this fight out 30 minutes but lost eventually due to unable to keeping a base up.
All you have to do is build air and she can’t do anything. You could have flown back and downed her instantly. Judging by those build numbers it looks like you built a ton of infantry. She destroys infantry along with her leader abilities. Air is king vs her as her abilities can’t hurt it. Heck, even tanks would have worked well.
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> All you have to do is build air and she can’t do anything. You could have flown back and downed her instantly. Judging by those build numbers it looks like you built a ton of infantry. She destroys infantry along with her leader abilities. Air is king vs her as her abilities can’t hurt it. Heck, even tanks would have worked well.
Ye. Flame chick is so weak against air troops. That’s why when I go against someone using her it’s all hornets, nightingales, vultures, condors, blister backs, banshees, engineers, shrouds, and SENTINELS.
Yeah I don’t think they need to nerf her. But I was amazed out how quick she took out bases. At least 3 buildings get destroyed almost instantly. I used displacement and teleport to bring her to my army (have to use both displacement and teleport due to distance). I’ll take her out or at least just slow her down from going back to my bases while the shield gens pop back up. Plus she has to wait for the firestorm leader power or whatever it’s called.
I see her being difficult to beat playing against more advanced players. Both the kisanos I have played were lower levels.
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> Please check out the photo, this game was a massively long game - reason being the leader powers kept on wiping out my army every single time.
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> Just to win I had to bait out the leader ability’s destroying a main base slowly!!
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> I think knock down her leader powers a little would be great
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> units I used mostly
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> Locust - Grunts - Elite Ranger - Hunters - Reavers
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> Depending on what he threw at me I changed my units around.
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> Insane game
So you are talking about basically all of the banished’s offensive leader powers too, because I’d say unless you just stay where you are and don’t move at all they are pretty similar… Heck, irradiation is way more damaging I think =|
Just learn from your mistakes and I almost garuntee you won’t say half as much is OP.
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> All you have to do is build air and she can’t do anything. You could have flown back and downed her instantly. Judging by those build numbers it looks like you built a ton of infantry. She destroys infantry along with her leader abilities. Air is king vs her as her abilities can’t hurt it. Heck, even tanks would have worked well.
was mostly Locust - reavers - wraiths backed up with. Elite rangers.
Next time time I’ll go air
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> > Please check out the photo, this game was a massively long game - reason being the leader powers kept on wiping out my army every single time.
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> > Just to win I had to bait out the leader ability’s destroying a main base slowly!!
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> > I think knock down her leader powers a little would be great
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> > units I used mostly
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> > Locust - Grunts - Elite Ranger - Hunters - Reavers
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> > Depending on what he threw at me I changed my units around.
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> > Insane game
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> So you are talking about basically all of the banished’s offensive leader powers too, because I’d say unless you just stay where you are and don’t move at all they are pretty similar… Heck, irradiation is way more damaging I think =|
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> Just learn from your mistakes and I almost garuntee you won’t say half as much is OP.
Click your units in one direction you can avoid all banished leader abilitys except beam that requires multiple clicks
I’ve yet to see her leader being very effective at taking down bases, especially by itself… I’ve always thought her leader to be rather weak.
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> > Please check out the photo, this game was a massively long game - reason being the leader powers kept on wiping out my army every single time.
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> > Just to win I had to bait out the leader ability’s destroying a main base slowly!!
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> > I think knock down her leader powers a little would be great
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> > units I used mostly
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> > Locust - Grunts - Elite Ranger - Hunters - Reavers
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> > Depending on what he threw at me I changed my units around.
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> > Insane game
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> So you are talking about basically all of the banished’s offensive leader powers too, because I’d say unless you just stay where you are and don’t move at all they are pretty similar… Heck, irradiation is way more damaging I think =|
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> Just learn from your mistakes and I almost garuntee you won’t say half as much is OP.
Inferno beats Eradication by a mile when talking base dmg actually. Cheaper and does more
First off I don’t believe she is op but her weaknesses are not as obvious as just going air. In the hands of a decent player, any air units should be able to dodge most leaders leader powers due to speed anyway. If she scouts you going air before you get a large pop of it, which a good player should, she can use a leader point to get the increased vehicle and air speed upgrade. Her wolverines will then be faster then normal making it easier to chase down or cut off air units. My preferred method though is to get hornets and nightingales that will be faster then banshees or the UNSC equivalent with another leader. Also if used correctly her leader powers can melt tanks.
You need to split your army more, or attack more then one place. And as other have said, she’s poor against air. You can also do hit and run strikes on supply pads to stop her spamming them as much as she tries to rebuild her econmy. As for the leader, she dies fairly easily to anti-infantry/air and is kiteable. Don’t let her get near bases.
I think her inferno ability is insane. I instantly kills everything. I think it is actually better than eradication (eradication might be better against bases but it is so easily dodged).
I have had vehicle armies melted immediately it is so difficult to dodge inferno.
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> > Just learn from your mistakes and I almost garuntee you won’t say half as much is OP.
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> Click your units in one direction you can avoid all banished leader abilitys except beam that requires multiple clicks
Yes? That’s what I’m saying…
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> > Just learn from your mistakes and I almost garuntee you won’t say half as much is OP.
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> Inferno beats Eradication by a mile when talking base dmg actually. Cheaper and does more
So if this were true it would kill the base at basically full health, which it definitely does not. Irradiation takes almost all buildings to low red bar (easily finished by any sort of army comp.) and significantly damages the main base. How is Kinsano’s ability better than that “by a mile”?
the inferno is not high damaging, it just causes the area where it hit to cause damage to enemy units, the reason it wipes out your army is because you didnt move them.
I think she’s just right. Strong but not too strong or OP takes a little skill to play against her.
As a person who plays her. The air strategy is on point. It takes a hard shift to anti air to deal with it… Which takes time and population, which I would rather use to build her signature units (anything with flame). This will take away from the DPS stacking that Kinsano is so good at. Also air units are almost immune to her DPS stacking. It significantly counters her strategy. Also get turrets up early. I can have units at bases in under 3 minutes. Remember she literally melts infantry so she is Queen of early game map control.
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> As a person who plays her. The air strategy is on point. It takes a hard shift to anti air to deal with it… Which takes time and population, which I would rather use to build her signature units (anything with flame). This will take away from the DPS stacking that Kinsano is so good at. Also air units are almost immune to her DPS stacking. It significantly counters her strategy. Also get turrets up early. I can have units at bases in under 3 minutes. Remember she literally melts infantry so she is Queen of early game map control.
Thanks for that 
Rush to Air next time for me
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> > As a person who plays her. The air strategy is on point. It takes a hard shift to anti air to deal with it… Which takes time and population, which I would rather use to build her signature units (anything with flame). This will take away from the DPS stacking that Kinsano is so good at. Also air units are almost immune to her DPS stacking. It significantly counters her strategy. Also get turrets up early. I can have units at bases in under 3 minutes. Remember she literally melts infantry so she is Queen of early game map control.
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> Thanks for that Rush to Air next time for me
Glad to help. The game gets better when we all get better
