I’m scared!
> I’m scared!
There there, you can still kick -Yoink- with your guns!
I don’t actually mind the whole bird-dinosaur relationship in the Jackal. My issue is simply that the new Jackal looks bad, its head is too big compared to its body, and the new look doesn’t match the Jackals gameplay style or character.
I like to think the Covenant are a collection of different and unique alien species that could survive on their own individually. At present the H4 Covenant look like they come from the same planet, and that Jackals are just feral animals. They’ve lost their look of intelligence, and they are meant to be very smart.
I think if they toned the dino stuff down a bit it would look pretty cool. And the neck has too much puppy flab.
I doubt 343 will have an explanation for all the Covenant looking like lizards. If they did they would have to explain other things like MC’s totally different armor set. Which they already “explained” with the lame -Yoink- excuse of… because art.
> I think if they toned the dino stuff down a bit it would look pretty cool. And the neck has too much <mark>puppy flab</mark>.
HAHA
> I doubt 343 will have an explanation for all the Covenant looking like lizards. If they did they would have to explain other things like MC’s totally different armor set. Which they already “explained” with the lame -Yoink!- excuse of… because art.
It’s mostly because art, but there was a big thread discussing that it is nano-tech and mjolnir upgrades and maintains itself while in cryo
Yes, I know they wanted to change the chief up a bit, but it could still have a decent explanation. Also, the nano tech is in the Mk VII and that tech was made after the chief went into cryo, there is only one Spartan 2 with that tech and it’s not the chief.
> Yes, I know they wanted to change the chief up a bit, but it could still have a decent explanation. Also, the nano tech is in the Mk VII and that tech was made after the chief went into cryo, there is only one Spartan 2 with that tech and it’s not the chief.
I assume your talking about Naomi? But you don’t think that they just put nano-tech in her armor? I mean, it had to be a thing when mark VI was made and they really pumped money into those suits, I’m sure his had nano-tech
I’m thinking “Storm” here just picked the short straw. All the athletic, in shape jackals went to other teams of covenant and Storm got stuck with a bunch of defected moray eels. I still think they look pretty BA, though.
Naomi was given MJOLNIR Mk. VII which has the nano tech. Chief has Mk. VI.
> Naomi was given MJOLNIR Mk. VII which has the nano tech. Chief has Mk. VI.
I know, didn’t I just say that…?
They look pretty badass. I love 'em! All the newly redesigned character/enemy models just look fantastic.
> > Yes, I know they wanted to change the chief up a bit, but it could still have a decent explanation. Also, the nano tech is in the Mk VII and that tech was made after the chief went into cryo, there is only one Spartan 2 with that tech and it’s not the chief.
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> I assume your talking about Naomi? But you don’t think that they just put nano-tech in her armor? I mean, it had to be a thing when mark VI was made and they really pumped money into those suits, I’m sure his had nano-tech
It’s too large a leap from what we know though. There has never even been mention of nano-tech in Mjolnir Mk VI or lower, and we have never even had any suspicion of it. The Chiefs badly damaged chest-piece being a great example, nano-tech would have repaired it after all, and the chest scar is STILL present in his H4 incarnation as well. We can all imagine that nano-tech could repair something like Mjolnir, that’s not the issue with this explanation, it’s simply that nano-tech is not part of Mjolnir Mk VI.
The Forward Unto Dawn has been changed under artistic license, the same should be applied for the Mk VI. There is no need for canonical reason, as it just serves to confuse all of the changes in H4.
> > > > > > How does puberty turn you from a vulture into a dinosaur?
> > > > >
> > > > > Molting on birds is a very, very, very common occurrence amongst the avian and akin to the idea at hand of “mutating” from one form to another.
> > > > >
> > > > > Though not as severe, Seagulls and Bald Eagles show signs of juvenile compared to adult-ness. Not meant as a direct analogy of the proposed idea but <mark>food for thought on the idea not being far-fetched</mark>.
> > > > >
> > > > > Personally, the Kig-Yar and Uggoy have proven themselves too ineffectual against the humans. The approaching storm may have genetically altered and/or gathered more aggressive variations of the parent races of fodder… Though I doubt they’ll actually be “meaner” in their bite, their bark and sight sure are.
> > > >
> > > > Still seems pretty far-fetched to me. I’d be cooler with sub-species than molting.
> > > > I hope 343 can come up with a better explanation than anything heard in this forum.
> > >
> > > Molting is only the idea of the changing that occurs. The changes could be caused by artificial genetic mutation or via sub-species cross-overs.
> > > The molting idea is that Earth’s avians go through a form of morphological change as they mature, much more drastic than humans do, not as drastic as flies do, but the idea remains it’s plausible.
> >
> > Yeah but, bird head to dinosaur head. I think catepillar to butterfly would be a more appropriate comparison–not a very good one, but still.
>
> I guess they are using the “dinosaurs have evolved into birds” theory. <mark>Except this time it’s the opposite. They devolved and maybe this is supposed to represent them being rogue jackals</mark>.
Well, let’s hope they come up with something because that would be a pretty lame explantion.
> **ThyReaper:**I don’t get what you mean now.
> Birds are an end branch of dinosaurs and some of their skull structures are extremely similar (just as much as some are extremely dissimilar)
No, I get that. We’ve all seen Jurassic Park. But this is in reverse. Also it didn’t take 100,000 to 1,000,000 years. And the skull structure of the 2 Jackal variants differ completely. From the neck down the new jackals make sense but I’ve never seen anything in the Halo universe that has a head that looks anywhere near what the new Jackal looks like. I’m interested in what the explanation will be.
> > > > > > > How does puberty turn you from a vulture into a dinosaur?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Molting on birds is a very, very, very common occurrence amongst the avian and akin to the idea at hand of “mutating” from one form to another.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Though not as severe, Seagulls and Bald Eagles show signs of juvenile compared to adult-ness. Not meant as a direct analogy of the proposed idea but <mark>food for thought on the idea not being far-fetched</mark>.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Personally, the Kig-Yar and Uggoy have proven themselves too ineffectual against the humans. The approaching storm may have genetically altered and/or gathered more aggressive variations of the parent races of fodder… Though I doubt they’ll actually be “meaner” in their bite, their bark and sight sure are.
> > > > >
> > > > > Still seems pretty far-fetched to me. I’d be cooler with sub-species than molting.
> > > > > I hope 343 can come up with a better explanation than anything heard in this forum.
> > > >
> > > > Molting is only the idea of the changing that occurs. The changes could be caused by artificial genetic mutation or via sub-species cross-overs.
> > > > The molting idea is that Earth’s avians go through a form of morphological change as they mature, much more drastic than humans do, not as drastic as flies do, but the idea remains it’s plausible.
> > >
> > > Yeah but, bird head to dinosaur head. I think catepillar to butterfly would be a more appropriate comparison–not a very good one, but still.
> >
> > I guess they are using the “dinosaurs have evolved into birds” theory. Except this time it’s the opposite. They devolved and maybe this is supposed to represent them being rogue jackals.
>
> Hmm. I believe you may have caught onto the reason why the storm covenant look different from the actual covenant. In the books it was said that certain forerunners can cause a species to devolve as the forerunners did to the humans after the forerunner - human war. Humans were on par with forerunner intellect before the devolution and even found a cure for the flood but alas, all was lost after they were devolved and lost their intelligence. So maybe the covenant were devolved by the forerunners in an attempt to stop them from searching Requiem for artifacts. However the storm may have been more advanced that thought so even after being devolved they still scavenge Requiem for artifcats, quite a persistent bunch.
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> This would explain the Storm Elite’s aggression to the grunt in that halo campaign demo at E3 this year. Dumber creatures are known to either be more peaceful or aggressive, obviously the storm will be more aggressive than previous covenant species. As in halo 1, I believe that the Covenant will unearth or rather unrequiem(bad dum tshh) something that should have been kept a secret or restrained like perhaps the Didact’s Cryptum? Now we may know why 343i said that the Storm will play a big role in halo 4.
In the infamous “Unggoy breaks canon” thread I suggested that the Forunners devolved them and I think I was flamed for it. Anyway, I’m hoping this is the explanation. It fits with the story and isn’t lazy like “subspecies.”
> > > > > > > How does puberty turn you from a vulture into a dinosaur?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Molting on birds is a very, very, very common occurrence amongst the avian and akin to the idea at hand of “mutating” from one form to another.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Though not as severe, Seagulls and Bald Eagles show signs of juvenile compared to adult-ness. Not meant as a direct analogy of the proposed idea but <mark>food for thought on the idea not being far-fetched</mark>.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Personally, the Kig-Yar and Uggoy have proven themselves too ineffectual against the humans. The approaching storm may have genetically altered and/or gathered more aggressive variations of the parent races of fodder… Though I doubt they’ll actually be “meaner” in their bite, their bark and sight sure are.
> > > > >
> > > > > Still seems pretty far-fetched to me. I’d be cooler with sub-species than molting.
> > > > > I hope 343 can come up with a better explanation than anything heard in this forum.
> > > >
> > > > Molting is only the idea of the changing that occurs. The changes could be caused by artificial genetic mutation or via sub-species cross-overs.
> > > > The molting idea is that Earth’s avians go through a form of morphological change as they mature, much more drastic than humans do, not as drastic as flies do, but the idea remains it’s plausible.
> > >
> > > Yeah but, bird head to dinosaur head. I think catepillar to butterfly would be a more appropriate comparison–not a very good one, but still.
> >
> > I guess they are using the “dinosaurs have evolved into birds” theory. <mark>Except this time it’s the opposite. They devolved and maybe this is supposed to represent them being rogue jackals</mark>.
>
> Well, let’s hope they come up with something because that would be a pretty lame explantion.
>
>
>
> > **ThyReaper:**I don’t get what you mean now.
> > Birds are an end branch of dinosaurs and some of their skull structures are extremely similar (just as much as some are extremely dissimilar)
>
> No, I get that. We’ve all seen Jurassic Park. But this is in reverse. Also it didn’t take 100,000 to 1,000,000 years. And the skull structure of the 2 Jackal variants differ completely. From the neck down the new jackals make sense but I’ve never seen anything in the Halo universe that has a head that looks anywhere near what the new Jackal looks like. I’m interested in what the explanation will be.
Best I can come up with. These jackals are probably ancestors. Just primal and have yet to really evolve.
> Hahaha! Nice one!
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> I like 'em but they kinda mess up with the canon.
>
> Someone said they could be wearing helmets.
thats awesome, i said that in another thread, i didnt think anyone would read it lol 
> Best I can come up with. These jackals are probably ancestors. Just primal and have yet to really evolve.
Or just some splice friendly genetic at the Covenant homeworld(s) who though it would be a good idea to mix a brute and a Jackal, the best of two worlds? ^^
Well, I like their look, they look mean and dangerous, might just put up a fight for once unlike the usual Halo enemies 
They can’t look this menacing for no reason right? I mean in a ctuscene the elite/knight got in your face as an intimidation method or maybe even to bite you if you weren’t quick enough to conquer it.
So maybe the grunts will attack you like jockeys in Left 4 Dead 2 and the jackals may bite your arm or seomthing. Who knows.