> > > > > > How does puberty turn you from a vulture into a dinosaur?
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> > > > > Molting on birds is a very, very, very common occurrence amongst the avian and akin to the idea at hand of “mutating” from one form to another.
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> > > > > Though not as severe, Seagulls and Bald Eagles show signs of juvenile compared to adult-ness. Not meant as a direct analogy of the proposed idea but <mark>food for thought on the idea not being far-fetched</mark>.
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> > > > > Personally, the Kig-Yar and Uggoy have proven themselves too ineffectual against the humans. The approaching storm may have genetically altered and/or gathered more aggressive variations of the parent races of fodder… Though I doubt they’ll actually be “meaner” in their bite, their bark and sight sure are.
> > > >
> > > > Still seems pretty far-fetched to me. I’d be cooler with sub-species than molting.
> > > > I hope 343 can come up with a better explanation than anything heard in this forum.
> > >
> > > Molting is only the idea of the changing that occurs. The changes could be caused by artificial genetic mutation or via sub-species cross-overs.
> > > The molting idea is that Earth’s avians go through a form of morphological change as they mature, much more drastic than humans do, not as drastic as flies do, but the idea remains it’s plausible.
> >
> > Yeah but, bird head to dinosaur head. I think catepillar to butterfly would be a more appropriate comparison–not a very good one, but still.
>
> I guess they are using the “dinosaurs have evolved into birds” theory. Except this time it’s the opposite. They devolved and maybe this is supposed to represent them being rogue jackals.
Hmm. I believe you may have caught onto the reason why the storm covenant look different from the actual covenant. In the books it was said that certain forerunners can cause a species to devolve as the forerunners did to the humans after the forerunner - human war. Humans were on par with forerunner intellect before the devolution and even found a cure for the flood but alas, all was lost after they were devolved and lost their intelligence. So maybe the covenant were devolved by the forerunners in an attempt to stop them from searching Requiem for artifacts. However the storm may have been more advanced that thought so even after being devolved they still scavenge Requiem for artifcats, quite a persistent bunch.
This would explain the Storm Elite’s aggression to the grunt in that halo campaign demo at E3 this year. Dumber creatures are known to either be more peaceful or aggressive, obviously the storm will be more aggressive than previous covenant species. As in halo 1, I believe that the Covenant will unearth or rather unrequiem(bad dum tshh) something that should have been kept a secret or restrained like perhaps the Didact’s Cryptum? Now we may know why 343i said that the Storm will play a big role in halo 4.
> Hahaha! Nice one!
>
> I like 'em but they kinda mess up with the canon.
>
> Someone said they could be wearing helmets.
how does jackals not wearing helmets mess up the canon if thats what you are referring to?
and besides we have seen jackals without helmets since halo ce
edit: ignore what i said i didnt read your comment correctly.
> > > Hahaha! Nice one!
> > >
> > > I like 'em but they kinda mess up with the canon.
> > >
> > > Someone said they could be wearing helmets.
> >
> > If you’ve seen the Spartan Ops trailer, there is a Jackal sniper in complete armor. Helmet and everything. so yes, they do.
> >
> > I do like the looks. makes them look more scary, like they’re supposed to be. I understand also that they can be canon because a giant planet from a giant universe, and everyone looks the same? yeah, that can’t be more canon.
>
> By helmets, he meant that the face of the new jackal is a helmet. Like a mask lol. Sounds crazy, but I saw op of the guy suggesting that the jackal’s appearance is actually a helmet. I loled, but he was serious.
So wait, he believes it’s the same Jackal look from Halo 2-Reach, but with a mask over it!? whatever makes him happy about the new look I guess…
> Hmm. I believe you may have caught onto the reason why the storm covenant look different from the actual covenant. In the books it was said that certain forerunners can cause a species to devolve as the forerunners did to the humans after the forerunner - human war. Humans were on par with forerunner intellect before the devolution and even found a cure for the flood but alas, all was lost after they were devolved and lost their intelligence. So maybe the covenant were devolved by the forerunners in an attempt to stop them from searching Requiem for artifacts. However the storm may have been more advanced that thought so even after being devolved they still scavenge Requiem for artifcats, quite a persistent bunch.
>
> This would explain the Storm Elite’s aggression to the grunt in that halo campaign demo at E3 this year. Dumber creatures are known to either be more peaceful or aggressive, obviously the storm will be more aggressive than previous covenant species. As in halo 1, I believe that the Covenant will unearth or rather unrequiem(bad dum tshh) something that should have been kept a secret or restrained like perhaps the Didact’s Cryptum? Now we may know why 343i said that the Storm will play a big role in halo 4.
I like this explanation better that 343i’s “Bungie got it wrong” explanation.
> > Hmm. I believe you may have caught onto the reason why the storm covenant look different from the actual covenant. In the books it was said that certain forerunners can cause a species to devolve as the forerunners did to the humans after the forerunner - human war. Humans were on par with forerunner intellect before the devolution and even found a cure for the flood but alas, all was lost after they were devolved and lost their intelligence. So maybe the covenant were devolved by the forerunners in an attempt to stop them from searching Requiem for artifacts. However the storm may have been more advanced that thought so even after being devolved they still scavenge Requiem for artifcats, quite a persistent bunch.
> >
> > This would explain the Storm Elite’s aggression to the grunt in that halo campaign demo at E3 this year. Dumber creatures are known to either be more peaceful or aggressive, obviously the storm will be more aggressive than previous covenant species. As in halo 1, I believe that the Covenant will unearth or rather unrequiem(bad dum tshh) something that should have been kept a secret or restrained like perhaps the Didact’s Cryptum? Now we may know why 343i said that the Storm will play a big role in halo 4.
>
> I like this explanation better that 343i’s “Bungie got it wrong” explanation.
what did 343 say that bungie got wrong?
Their necks look larger than usual.
> > > > > > > How does puberty turn you from a vulture into a dinosaur?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Molting on birds is a very, very, very common occurrence amongst the avian and akin to the idea at hand of “mutating” from one form to another.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Though not as severe, Seagulls and Bald Eagles show signs of juvenile compared to adult-ness. Not meant as a direct analogy of the proposed idea but <mark>food for thought on the idea not being far-fetched</mark>.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Personally, the Kig-Yar and Uggoy have proven themselves too ineffectual against the humans. The approaching storm may have genetically altered and/or gathered more aggressive variations of the parent races of fodder… Though I doubt they’ll actually be “meaner” in their bite, their bark and sight sure are.
> > > > >
> > > > > Still seems pretty far-fetched to me. I’d be cooler with sub-species than molting.
> > > > > I hope 343 can come up with a better explanation than anything heard in this forum.
> > > >
> > > > Molting is only the idea of the changing that occurs. The changes could be caused by artificial genetic mutation or via sub-species cross-overs.
> > > > The molting idea is that Earth’s avians go through a form of morphological change as they mature, much more drastic than humans do, not as drastic as flies do, but the idea remains it’s plausible.
> > >
> > > Yeah but, bird head to dinosaur head. I think catepillar to butterfly would be a more appropriate comparison–not a very good one, but still.
> >
> > I guess they are using the “dinosaurs have evolved into birds” theory. Except this time it’s the opposite. They devolved and maybe this is supposed to represent them being rogue jackals.
>
> Hmm. I believe you may have caught onto the reason why the storm covenant look different from the actual covenant. In the books it was said that certain forerunners can cause a species to devolve as the forerunners did to the humans after the forerunner - human war. Humans were on par with forerunner intellect before the devolution and even found a cure for the flood but alas, all was lost after they were devolved and lost their intelligence. So maybe the covenant were devolved by the forerunners in an attempt to stop them from searching Requiem for artifacts. However the storm may have been more advanced that thought so even after being devolved they still scavenge Requiem for artifcats, quite a persistent bunch.
>
> This would explain the Storm Elite’s aggression to the grunt in that halo campaign demo at E3 this year. Dumber creatures are known to either be more peaceful or aggressive, obviously the storm will be more aggressive than previous covenant species. As in halo 1, I believe that the Covenant will unearth or rather unrequiem(bad dum tshh) something that should have been kept a secret or restrained like perhaps the Didact’s Cryptum? Now we may know why 343i said that the Storm will play a big role in halo 4.
Yea yes, nice. Everyone kept referencing to dinos. I figured people already caught the clue. These are or may be the earlier jackals. Maybe they didn’t evolve as much because their climate condition … still I think 343 may go towards something like this. It’s a pretty good explanation as to why the sudden drastic change. All the covies look dumber and primal…
> I’m scared!
There there, you can still kick -Yoink- with your guns!
I don’t actually mind the whole bird-dinosaur relationship in the Jackal. My issue is simply that the new Jackal looks bad, its head is too big compared to its body, and the new look doesn’t match the Jackals gameplay style or character.
I like to think the Covenant are a collection of different and unique alien species that could survive on their own individually. At present the H4 Covenant look like they come from the same planet, and that Jackals are just feral animals. They’ve lost their look of intelligence, and they are meant to be very smart.
I think if they toned the dino stuff down a bit it would look pretty cool. And the neck has too much puppy flab.
I doubt 343 will have an explanation for all the Covenant looking like lizards. If they did they would have to explain other things like MC’s totally different armor set. Which they already “explained” with the lame -Yoink- excuse of… because art.
> I think if they toned the dino stuff down a bit it would look pretty cool. And the neck has too much <mark>puppy flab</mark>.
HAHA
> I doubt 343 will have an explanation for all the Covenant looking like lizards. If they did they would have to explain other things like MC’s totally different armor set. Which they already “explained” with the lame -Yoink!- excuse of… because art.
It’s mostly because art, but there was a big thread discussing that it is nano-tech and mjolnir upgrades and maintains itself while in cryo
Yes, I know they wanted to change the chief up a bit, but it could still have a decent explanation. Also, the nano tech is in the Mk VII and that tech was made after the chief went into cryo, there is only one Spartan 2 with that tech and it’s not the chief.
> Yes, I know they wanted to change the chief up a bit, but it could still have a decent explanation. Also, the nano tech is in the Mk VII and that tech was made after the chief went into cryo, there is only one Spartan 2 with that tech and it’s not the chief.
I assume your talking about Naomi? But you don’t think that they just put nano-tech in her armor? I mean, it had to be a thing when mark VI was made and they really pumped money into those suits, I’m sure his had nano-tech
I’m thinking “Storm” here just picked the short straw. All the athletic, in shape jackals went to other teams of covenant and Storm got stuck with a bunch of defected moray eels. I still think they look pretty BA, though.
Naomi was given MJOLNIR Mk. VII which has the nano tech. Chief has Mk. VI.
> Naomi was given MJOLNIR Mk. VII which has the nano tech. Chief has Mk. VI.
I know, didn’t I just say that…?
They look pretty badass. I love 'em! All the newly redesigned character/enemy models just look fantastic.