New God of War and Zelda: BOTW implication on Halo

I see people screaming about Halo going back to root, but what about complete change? Didn’t these two games completely change and bring fresh air?
Can’t Halo do the same? Is it too risky? And didn’t they bring way more sales due to massive change?
What I am saying is… with every other going back to root being success… there are cases of complete overhaul being success.

I’m not super familiar with what you are talking about.
Care to be a little more specific in the titles you mean, rather just mentioning the franchises in general?
And also what is new about them?

Breath of the Wild was Zelda going back to its roots. Just compare BotW to the original TLoZ.

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> I see people screaming about Halo going back to root, but what about complete change? **Didn’t these two games completely change and bring fresh air?**Can’t Halo do the same? Is it too risky? And didn’t they bring way more sales due to massive change?
> What I am saying is… with every other going back to root being success… there are cases of complete overhaul being success.

These two games were action-adventure or simple adventure games respectively,
you can’t compare such games to an arena-based ego-shooter like Halo is.
it’s like comparing pears to apples.
just because those kind of changes worked for pears, doesn’t mean it’ll improve apples as well.

those 2 are completely different genres those are action/adventure games while halo is a FPS or are you suggesting infinite should go open world like those 2 were least BOTW was I don’t know about god of war

Because 4 & 5 were their take on changing things up… & fails in comparison to the original trilogy. So there is good reason to go back to the roots. But as of now we know next to nothing so who knows what well actually get.

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> I see people screaming about Halo going back to root, but what about complete change? Didn’t these two games completely change and bring fresh air?
> Can’t Halo do the same?

I would argue Halo already did do the same. Adding the Req system to unlock things including weapons and vehicles, and Warzone in which to use said weapons and vehicles, was a rather massive overhaul compared to all the mainline Halo games before Halo 5, especially considering how much the rest of Halo 5 revolved around the req system, and how maximizing the likelihood of players purchasing req packs seems like it was their #1 main goal when designing the game.

I would also argue that these big changes didn’t quite make Halo 5 the success that 343 wanted it to be (though I’m sure they made lots of money from req packs). At least, in my opinion, Halo 5 would have been much better without them. Additionally, their attempt to overhaul the Halo multiplayer formula by adding loadouts and ordnance drops to Halo 4 wasn’t met with much success, either. And if you go back even earlier, I don’t think people were too happy about Bungie adding armor abilities to Halo Reach (though I could be wrong, that was a little before my time). So yes, there are cases of complete overhauls being successful for other games, but I think people just want 343 to stop trying, at this point. I’m generally not one of those people saying Halo should “go back to its roots” but I certainly don’t want the req system to come back.

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> I see people screaming about Halo going back to root, but what about complete change? Didn’t these two games completely change and bring fresh air?
> Can’t Halo do the same? Is it too risky? And didn’t they bring way more sales due to massive change?
> What I am saying is… with every other going back to root being success… there are cases of complete overhaul being success.

Well i don’t think so…
On Nintendo plataform, they always only focused on their exclusive classic gold titles anyways. I could really tell is the only platform sells because of their exclusives. And their choices of simply lore and art styles have big versatibility to make their so many kind of games. They call the Xbox franchises oversatured with Halo, Gears and Forza games, so imagine the Nintendo exclusives. They had even Tennis version of Mario. And at launch of the switch, they only had this game option to play: or you buy it or you don’t enjoy their hardware
God Of War… well, I don’t think so. I have see a strange tweet to Phil Spencer telling “we are complaining and dying to play God of War game on Xbox”. They have made a partial joke on their news posr but early excluded on facebook.
Even I have played GOW 1 and 2 on PS2 and a little of 3 in a house of my Friends. And honestly, I don’t miss anyway.
It’s a bit sad they did on their game because they removed their brutal kills, hit combo counters and poorly executed Graphics ( the water it’s like made of play dough, excess of fog on the scenarios, ugly big textures like the giant snake).
I would tell you in my perspective it’s because I see more of sony’s fanboy horde buying than their true love of the game. If you see the patern, every game they launch the fanboys and the media was considered GOTY or something like that.
I don’t enjoy so much SP games because of lack of duration. I had seen these games beated in 1 one day, weekend or a once week. After that, they will sell, lend to someone or throw on the wardobre getting dust. I think Wolfesntein 2 it’s cool but I’m still holding back because the only option to play SP.
People complain about the problems of Halo 5, but I still thinking it’s still better than many MP AAA studios. I was and still so repentant I had spent so much on Black Ops 3 Deluxe Edition with so bad servers and excess of lootboxes. When they launched the remastered zombies maps package separatedly, I was Done and I’ll never buy anything from activision.
On Battlefield 1 is the same thing. This time, I had bought the deluxe edition instead of premium. The lack of stability of servers and lack of player made me sad, and I don’t readed well, and I noticed I don’t had bought with DLC content.
Only on Halo 5 I found the DLCs are for free, and microtransactions are used in PVE. Yeah, I know it’s not a perfect game, but it’s still far away better than other Studios where’s the greed had already poisoned their heads.
Anyways, the curious is Halo CE had entered in the Hall Of Fame in the videogames history.

I just want to see Halo go back to the old art style, remove advanced movement, remove squad mechanics and get rid of loot boxes and microtransactions. Aside from all that I’m open to other stuff, except Battle Royale.

BOTW was simply an open world example of the original Zelda concept. GoW is a drastic change from the over the top hack and slash adventure to a more story focused tale. 343 tried the story focused tale and it didn’t work (H5 is still the only console launched Halo game I haven’t bothered to finish and H4 had it’s moments but the MP was horrid). Going back to its roots seems the last option other than major back to the drawing board kind of changes ; that we may already be getting with Infinite.
Honestly I don’t know which I hope for and which I dread more.

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> I just want to see Halo go back to the old art style, remove advanced movement, remove squad mechanics and get rid of loot boxes and microtransactions. Aside from all that I’m open to other stuff, expect Battle Royale.

You are referring to the squad mechanics of the campaign?

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> You are referring to the squad mechanics of the campaign?

Yeah. It just slowed me down and made the game less fun for me.

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> Yeah. It just slowed me down and made the game less fun for me.

Just making sure , agreed.