New Forge Canvas?

So in June The Warzone Firefight Update will release and It will come with a NEW Forge Canvas!

Tell me what you guys think it may be… Lets just hope its Forge Galaxy! … Lol no :stuck_out_tongue:

hope its forge world

It’s not forge world

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> It’s not forge world

Says who?

Hope its a volcanic map or something like that. Wouldn’t mind a map inspired by forge world

Forget world here we come

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> Hope its a volcanic map or something like that. Wouldn’t mind a map inspired by forge world

Fans-

Can we have a slightly bigger or even an exact copy of Forge World from Reach? Please?

343’s response-

We took Forge World and made it so you can only build maps on the Pinnacle! You can see the rest of Forge World in the back ground and it looks amazing! Not to play on though! Hahaha! Silly player, you can’t have big maps in Forge!

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> > Hope its a volcanic map or something like that. Wouldn’t mind a map inspired by forge world
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> Fans-
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> Can we have a slightly bigger or even an exact copy of Forge World from Reach? Please?
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> 343’s response-
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> We took Forge World and made it so you can only build maps on the Pinnacle! You can see the rest of Forge World in the back ground and it looks amazing! Not to play on though! Hahaha! Silly player, you can’t have big maps in Forge!

Hey the forge team at 343 are wizards they have never disappointed. We actually don’t need an exact copy of forge world to be honest it was good but nothing really that special and worthy to be in every title which is why a map inspired by it would be better at least

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> > > Hope its a volcanic map or something like that. Wouldn’t mind a map inspired by forge world
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> > Fans-
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> > Can we have a slightly bigger or even an exact copy of Forge World from Reach? Please?
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> > 343’s response-
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> > We took Forge World and made it so you can only build maps on the Pinnacle! You can see the rest of Forge World in the back ground and it looks amazing! Not to play on though! Hahaha! Silly player, you can’t have big maps in Forge!
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> Hey the forge team at 343 are wizards they have never disappointed. We actually don’t need an exact copy of forge world to be honest it was good but nothing really that special and worthy to be in every title which is why a map inspired by it would be better at least

The Forge team is good, but they don’t do a good job at map making. See- Halo 4, 2A, and 5G’s Forge “Worlds”. All three of 5’s might be the size of FW. Might. Point is, not only are they all disappointingly small, they also suck to Forge on. Most of them are literally blank canvasses that force you to put down valuable pieces in order to build a half decent map (such as Paralaxx, or the other two that were from Halos 4 and 2A.

When 343 has an “inspiration”… Well, you saw what I said before, as well as Halo 4 and 5’s campaigns (and MP for 4)

In short, saying they have never disappointed is like saying the desert has never had sand.

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> > > > Hope its a volcanic map or something like that. Wouldn’t mind a map inspired by forge world
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> > > Fans-
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> > > Can we have a slightly bigger or even an exact copy of Forge World from Reach? Please?
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> > > 343’s response-
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> > > We took Forge World and made it so you can only build maps on the Pinnacle! You can see the rest of Forge World in the back ground and it looks amazing! Not to play on though! Hahaha! Silly player, you can’t have big maps in Forge!
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> > Hey the forge team at 343 are wizards they have never disappointed. We actually don’t need an exact copy of forge world to be honest it was good but nothing really that special and worthy to be in every title which is why a map inspired by it would be better at least
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> The Forge team is good, but they don’t do a good job at map making. See- Halo 4, 2A, and 5G’s Forge “Worlds”. All three of 5’s might be the size of FW. Might. Point is, not only are they all disappointingly small, they also suck to Forge on. Most of them are literally blank canvasses that force you to put down valuable pieces in order to build a half decent map (such as Paralaxx, or the other two that were from Halos 4 and 2A.
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> When 343 has an “inspiration”… Well, you saw what I said before, as well as Halo 4 and 5’s campaigns (and MP for 4)
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> In short, saying they have never disappointed is like saying the desert has never had sand.

Antarctica is a desert.

Tom French confirmed forge world would be coming eventually so…

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> Antarctica is a desert.

I like throwing that curveball at people.

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> > > > > Hope its a volcanic map or something like that. Wouldn’t mind a map inspired by forge world
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> > > > Fans-
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> > > > Can we have a slightly bigger or even an exact copy of Forge World from Reach? Please?
> > > >
> > > > 343’s response-
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> > > > We took Forge World and made it so you can only build maps on the Pinnacle! You can see the rest of Forge World in the back ground and it looks amazing! Not to play on though! Hahaha! Silly player, you can’t have big maps in Forge!
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> > > Hey the forge team at 343 are wizards they have never disappointed. We actually don’t need an exact copy of forge world to be honest it was good but nothing really that special and worthy to be in every title which is why a map inspired by it would be better at least
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> > The Forge team is good, but they don’t do a good job at map making. See- Halo 4, 2A, and 5G’s Forge “Worlds”. All three of 5’s might be the size of FW. Might. Point is, not only are they all disappointingly small, they also suck to Forge on. Most of them are literally blank canvasses that force you to put down valuable pieces in order to build a half decent map (such as Paralaxx, or the other two that were from Halos 4 and 2A.
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> > When 343 has an “inspiration”… Well, you saw what I said before, as well as Halo 4 and 5’s campaigns (and MP for 4)
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> > In short, saying they have never disappointed is like saying the desert has never had sand.
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> Antarctica is a desert.

Haha nailed it.

https://mobile.twitter.com/pardontomfrench/status/690358277427851268

You guys do know they said they were remaking Forgeworld right?

I just hope that when they do bring forge world back, they make it better by allowing different skybox changes, allowing to forge in water, and another option to change it’s terrain to sand, ice, or color it with the options like primitive blocks have. -:slight_smile: I:e Wooden Grassland Appearance. Lol.

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> > > > Hope its a volcanic map or something like that. Wouldn’t mind a map inspired by forge world
> > >
> > >
> > > Fans-
> > >
> > > Can we have a slightly bigger or even an exact copy of Forge World from Reach? Please?
> > >
> > > 343’s response-
> > >
> > > We took Forge World and made it so you can only build maps on the Pinnacle! You can see the rest of Forge World in the back ground and it looks amazing! Not to play on though! Hahaha! Silly player, you can’t have big maps in Forge!
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> >
> > Hey the forge team at 343 are wizards they have never disappointed. We actually don’t need an exact copy of forge world to be honest it was good but nothing really that special and worthy to be in every title which is why a map inspired by it would be better at least
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> The Forge team is good, but they don’t do a good job at map making. See- Halo 4, 2A, and 5G’s Forge “Worlds”. All three of 5’s might be the size of FW. Might. Point is, not only are they all disappointingly small, they also suck to Forge on. Most of them are literally blank canvasses that force you to put down valuable pieces in order to build a half decent map (such as Paralaxx, or the other two that were from Halos 4 and 2A.
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> When 343 has an “inspiration”… Well, you saw what I said before, as well as Halo 4 and 5’s campaigns (and MP for 4)
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> In short, saying they have never disappointed is like saying the desert has never had sand.

Halo 4 and 2 Anniversary Forge were outsourced and made by Certain Affnity. Halo 5 Guardians Forge was made in-house by the 343 devs.

And ask any Forgers including myself and even the more top Cartographer members, none of them particularly liked Forge World. What’s the point of Forging on a map soo large that you can only use about ~15% of it? Most of it will be empty space that wears and puts stress on things like stability and frame rate. (With H5 already horrid and unstable servers. FW would be a nightmare to work with.) And most of the landscape was hard to build on or uninspiring to work with, that explains why we had a bunch of maps in MM that never took advantage of terrain and built in the sky. Anything built using terrain was literally a few blocks melded into the ground that didn’t resemble anything.

Halo 5 Forge maps that DO have terrain is only added as a peripheral. It’s there only if you want to Forge on it. Otherwise we wouldn’t have all the terrain pieces we have.

I see why it was necessary at the time, creating a huge map was for budget reason. It’s easier than to build more map canvases. During the Reach time, a lot of community Forgers including myself begged for a different, hell; an even smaller canvas just to build a “map” on. A map doesn’t require the bulk of Forge World causing problems to the stability of the game.

Plus Forge World is redundant with the introduction of terrain pieces. Empty skyboxes are favored because of that. To be honest, I’d rather get a slew of new skyboxes for Parallax than Forge World. Though, Forge World would be nice too. I honestly wouldn’t complain. But I bet 9 times out of 10. People will still favor Parallax for its versatility over Forge World. I know I’ll still favor it. Just add volcanic skyboxes, city skylines, anything. AND more terrain pieces. And I’d choose it over FW every time. Halo 5 Forge offer more without the need of actual terrain to work on. So FW isn’t needed. Would it be cool to have? Sure. But a lot of Forgers would be a bit dissapointed. But I don’t speak for the bulk of them. If you Forge yourself you’d know why FW is not a necessity.

Oh and like others have said, Antartica is a desert. A desert is defined by how dry a place is. Not by how much sand it has. I don’t go to the beach and think I’m doomed just because there’s sand all around me. And yes. Antartica is considered dry despite having solid ice and snow all around.

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> You guys do know they said they were remaking Forgeworld right?

Yep, I think someone already posted a link to the tweet. Forge World would be awesome. But it’s just not versatile enough to work with Halo 5s Forge. But I wouldn’t complain if we got it. It would be nice to mess around in it again. :smiley:

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> Yep, I think someone already posted a link to the tweet. Forge World would be awesome. But it’s just not versatile enough to work with Halo 5s Forge. But I wouldn’t complain if we got it. It would be nice to mess around in it again. :smiley:

But if they are trying, than we might get to see a beautiful new map that is versatile. Remember Xbox One is a lot more powerful than the 360. It only Seems limited because they set to run as a instead of windows 10 program.

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> But if they are trying, than we might get to see a beautiful new map that is versatile. Remember Xbox One is a lot more powerful than the 360. It only Seems limited because they set to run as a instead of windows 10 program.

Not versatile in the fact most of the canvas would be next to useless. The limitations come from the fact that the terrain is static and boring to work with. That’s what happened in Reach. I don’t mean nonversatile in a technical standpoint. I’m a map designer myself and I’ve worked within many professional programs. Forge is a great tool, at least for what it is on consoles. I don’t deny it’ll work better on the Xbox One. But the map would put a lot of stress in the engine itself not really the console. And Halo 5 Forge will work great on FW. But FW is ultimately an empty almost useless canvas. A lot of Forgers disliked Forging on it and would rather have the simplist of canvases to work with so they can build their creations from the ground up.

I explained alot of this within my first post. But I get what you’re saying. And I don’t speak for the majority. It’s just my own little opinion, I’d rather get more terrain pieces and skyboxes to create things from scratch, without the limitations of trying to use the actual canvas.