New Firefight Variant FLOOD/Zombies

Hello Everyone,

I have been thinking of this for a long time and thought now would be a good time to bring it up.
Firefight is a loved game type for ODST and Reach. Now that Halo 4 is coming to pc I think it’s time to bring the Flood into firefight.

Similar to Call of Duty Zombies, survive wave after wave of Flood forms that get dramatically stronger as you progress. While the Flood game mode is close to this it doesn’t feel like a hoard of endless Flood trying to kill you.

Now that Halloween is near this could be a new game mode for the “Zombie” hunter in all of us.

Thoughts and comments are appreciated as I am new to insiders.

Unfortinately 343 would have to code and mod this into the game to make happen (a lot more work than just making PvP Gametypes), I agree that would be a really cool addition to the game. Plus I get really tired of PvP updates all the time, would really like to start seeing much more focus from 343 on PvE stuff (not challenges only because that uses existing content already), more new content to play! Its the one thing I think for a long time with the Halo franchise has really lacked on for updates is the PvE side of things, we always get so much PvP stuff that I feel like PvE gets ignored most of the time.

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> Unfortinately 343 would have to code and mod this into the game to make happen (a lot more work than just making PvP Gametypes), I agree that would be a really cool addition to the game. Plus I get really tired of PvP updates all the time, would really like to start seeing much more focus from 343 on PvE stuff (not challenges only because that uses existing content already), more new content to play! Its the one thing I think for a long time with the Halo franchise has really lacked on for updates is the PvE side of things, we always get so much PvP stuff that I feel like PvE gets ignored most of the time.

With the amount of coding they have done it could be possible. Perhaps in infinite then.

Got a nice response from a Halo Executive that I want to share…

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Thanks for reaching out.

I know our MCC and Infinite game design folks are always looking at multiple ideas for Firefight and other modes - and Infection/flood mode as you note, does a little bit of that. I am fairly sure that Horde/Infection/Zombie style modes have a permanent place at the top of the the design docket, right below Shipping Essentials! We’re also always looking at new modes and design ideas that don’t fit neatly into that category. Sorry that’s not much of an answer, but it’s the safe one to give."

So hey maybe something will happen in the future.
What are your thoughts.

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> Hello Everyone,
>
> I have been thinking of this for a long time and thought now would be a good time to bring it up.
> Firefight is a loved game type for ODST and Reach. Now that Halo 4 is coming to pc I think it’s time to bring the Flood into firefight.
>
> Similar to Call of Duty Zombies, survive wave after wave of Flood forms that get dramatically stronger as you progress. While the Flood game mode is close to this it doesn’t feel like a hoard of endless Flood trying to kill you.
>
> Now that Halloween is near this could be a new game mode for the “Zombie” hunter in all of us.
>
> Thoughts and comments are appreciated as I am new to insiders.

This sounds more like a job for the modding community. Back in the 360 days, someone made a mod for ODST firefight that let you fight the flood instead of covenant. Hopefully the author can port it over to the MCC in the near future.

Well depending on how involved 343i wants to be involved with the Modding Community once Halo 4 is out on PC, since it is the Last Mainline Halo Game that needs to be on MCC PC, I could actually see them encouraging Fan Made Mods & Add-Ons to increase the Life-Cycle of the Collection and potentially even bringing some of them over Officially not to dissimilarly to other Video Games with a dedicated Mod Community should they decide to go all in with it.

At the moment many folks who work with Mods for the Collection have noted MCC is not exactly the most friendly Game out there when it comes to implementing Mods but the possibility to make it more friendly once all the Main Games are available on PC does exist so if 343i is willing to give better tools to make Mods, and if the Fans do come up with something INCREDIBLE with those tools given, that could actually help big time overall since there’s a lot of possibilities to be had.

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> Well depending on how involved 343i wants to be involved with the Modding Community once Halo 4 is out on PC, since it is the Last Mainline Halo Game that needs to be on MCC PC, I could actually see them encouraging Fan Made Mods & Add-Ons to increase the Life-Cycle of the Collection and potentially even bringing some of them over Officially not to dissimilarly to other Video Games with a dedicated Mod Community should they decide to go all in with it.
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> At the moment many folks who work with Mods for the Collection have noted MCC is not exactly the most friendly Game out there when it comes to implementing Mods but the possibility to make it more friendly once all the Main Games are available on PC does exist so if 343i is willing to give better tools to make Mods, and if the Fans do come up with something INCREDIBLE with those tools given, that could actually help big time overall since there’s a lot of possibilities to be had.

The problem seems to be that the mod community is primarily supported in the PC versions of the game. Whereas a console would need a hard code update by the developers. Unless of course 343 opens up the code to console gamers like Skyrim did with the Xbox one.

Well the thing is in the instances of “Fan Created Mod Content becoming Officially Supported” for many cases the actual Teams behind the Games take care of it being Added in on the actual Game like it is an Official Update rather than a Mod since it was further modified by the Game Company themselves to work that way.

For Testing out and playing them while they are just Mods yeah then they would need to find out a way to open that up to Console…unless they go about it like “The Mods work on PC & The ones the Players like? Let’s Modify those Specific Mods to work with Console!” but then yeah they could also go about it like Skyrim on Console.

Foregable AI would make this possible

One problem, the flood do practically nothing but charge straight at you… and with the amount of enemies in firefight, you’d get swarmed in the first wave. And then there’s the ones with shotguns and rockets…

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> One problem, the flood do practically nothing but charge straight at you… and with the amount of enemies in firefight, you’d get swarmed in the first wave. And then there’s the ones with shotguns and rockets…

That is true but they could also get the flood units from Halo Wars 2 that act smarter then just a horde of zombies. Basically I think they need a game similar to Gears of War Horde or Call of Duty Zombies. The flood are so under represented.

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> Foregable AI would make this possible

I like that idea but it would be difficult to implement would it?

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> Well the thing is in the instances of “Fan Created Mod Content becoming Officially Supported” for many cases the actual Teams behind the Games take care of it being Added in on the actual Game like it is an Official Update rather than a Mod since it was further modified by the Game Company themselves to work that way.
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> For Testing out and playing them while they are just Mods yeah then they would need to find out a way to open that up to Console…unless they go about it like “The Mods work on PC & The ones the Players like? Let’s Modify those Specific Mods to work with Console!” but then yeah they could also go about it like Skyrim on Console.

Yeah I think if the PC mod community did a popular mod then it could be ported to console.

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> I like that idea but it would be difficult to implement would it?

I’m not sure lol but it would make forge playable forever I just love the idea of it whether its realistic or not would be up to 343

Yeah I don’t think anyone would complain if we would got a Forge Firefight or some kinda way to Forge AIs into some sorta scenario, whether it actually becomes a thing is another story but I don’t think there would be complaints if it did.

Great ideas. I’m all for it.