NEW FATHOM GAMEPLAY (FULL MATCH)

Do you all like how this map was designed?

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> http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IEmcVmFqkAY
> Do you all like how this map was designed?

Are you talking about how it looks like any other human map just with a different skybox or are you talking about the layout?

  • pistol is too weak, make it fire faster and/or make it a 4sk
  • sprint + spartan charge =huge no-go
  • sprint still is annoying
  • plasma caster looks fun!
  • layout look ok
  • design is boring…just like Eden, Empire,… (though I like the idea of an underwater station…the execution is just bad…)

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> > http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IEmcVmFqkAY
> > Do you all like how this map was designed?
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> Are you talking about how it looks like any other human map just with a different skybox or are you talking about the layout?
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> - pistol is too weak, make it fire faster and/or make it a 4sk
> - sprint + spartan charge =huge no-go
> - sprint still is annoying
> - plasma caster looks fun!
> - layout look ok
> - design is boring…just like Eden, Empire,… (though I like the idea of an underwater station…the execution is just bad…)

I don’t think it matter what 343 does to be honest I think there is just no pleasing you when it comes to almost anything done by them.

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> http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IEmcVmFqkAY
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> Do you all like how this map was designed?

Here you go OP working link :slight_smile:

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> > > http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IEmcVmFqkAY
> > > Do you all like how this map was designed?
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> > Are you talking about how it looks like any other human map just with a different skybox or are you talking about the layout?
> > - pistol is too weak, make it fire faster and/or make it a 4sk
> > - sprint + spartan charge =huge no-go
> > - sprint still is annoying
> > - plasma caster looks fun!
> > - layout look ok
> > - design is boring…just like Eden, Empire,… (though I like the idea of an underwater station…the execution is just bad…)
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> I don’t think it matter what 343 does to be honest I think there is just no pleasing you when it comes to almost anything done by them.

Oh cry me a river…in case you didn’t notice, 2 out of those 6 points were positiv but yeah some of us need to have higher standards than others…
if we would all just sit here, sharing no feedback or criticism and would just praise how great almighty 343 is, the game wouldn’t improve.

I don’t expect H5 to be the most fun gaming experiance in my life, I know sprint is not going anywhere and it will still annoy me when the game is released so my expectations aren’t that high, and I know 343 will not magically realize that their design is monotonous and redesign half of their maps but maybe they will notice that some of the community are not okay playing on maps, that look quite similar and maybe they will change that for those DLC maps or their next game.
Buffing the pistol is a small tweak but it will be a huge improvement for the gameplay, why should I not mention it?

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> > > > http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IEmcVmFqkAY
> > > > Do you all like how this map was designed?
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> > >
> > > Are you talking about how it looks like any other human map just with a different skybox or are you talking about the layout?
> > > - pistol is too weak, make it fire faster and/or make it a 4sk
> > > - sprint + spartan charge =huge no-go
> > > - sprint still is annoying
> > > - plasma caster looks fun!
> > > - layout look ok
> > > - design is boring…just like Eden, Empire,… (though I like the idea of an underwater station…the execution is just bad…)
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> >
> > I don’t think it matter what 343 does to be honest I think there is just no pleasing you when it comes to almost anything done by them.
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> Oh cry me a river…in case you didn’t notice, 2 out of those 6 points were positiv but yeah some of us need to have higher standards than others…
> if we would all just sit here, sharing no feedback or criticism and would just praise how great almighty 343 is, the game wouldn’t improve.
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> I don’t expect H5 to be the most fun gaming experiance in my life, I know sprint is not going anywhere and it will still annoy me when the game is released so my expectations aren’t that high, and I know 343 will not magically realize that their design is monotonous and redesign half of their maps but maybe they will notice that some of the community are not okay playing on maps, that look quite similar and maybe they will change that for those DLC maps or their next game.
> Buffing the pistol is a small tweak but it will be a huge improvement for the gameplay, why should I not mention it?

Ooo tetchy, I said almost anything by the way in case you can’t read I never said you hated everything. I’m just saying it doesn’t seem to matter much what 343 does you hate most of it. We obviously have different opinions on the design of the maps, but I think these are some of the best designed maps since Halo 2. The only ones I feel are the samish in terms of design so far are Eden and Empire but isn’t that because one is just forged from the other?

The rest of the maps are IMO unique and have their own feel to them and are easily distinguishable from one another. Also when did I mention anything about the pistol here? Did I say you shouldn’t say anything about it? No didn’t think so. Plus maybe you should play the game in it’s current state first before saying this or that weapon needs a buff or nerf. From what I have seen the pistol seems well balanced as of now I don’t think it needs a buff that would just make the weapon to OP IMO. I will wait until I actually play the game in release form however before I make up my mind and give my final verdict on the balance of the weapons etc.

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> > http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IEmcVmFqkAY
> > Do you all like how this map was designed?
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> Are you talking about how it looks like any other human map just with a different skybox or are you talking about the layout?
>
> - pistol is too weak, make it fire faster and/or make it a 4sk
> - sprint + spartan charge =huge no-go
> - sprint still is annoying
> - plasma caster looks fun!
> - layout look ok
> - design is boring…just like Eden, Empire,… (though I like the idea of an underwater station…the execution is just bad…)

Pistol? I don’t see how it is weak. They made it slower from the beta and added more power/damage for players who care about accuracy. I definitely agree with you on the spartan charge. Whats the point in that? Its a melee that takes more time and can get you killed ez. Yes the layouts ok but I don’t like the placements of the over shield. Idk y.

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> > http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IEmcVmFqkAY
> > Do you all like how this map was designed?
>
>
> Are you talking about how it looks like any other human map just with a different skybox or are you talking about the layout?
>
> - pistol is too weak, make it fire faster and/or make it a 4sk
> - sprint + spartan charge =huge no-go
> - sprint still is annoying
> - plasma caster looks fun!
> - layout look ok
> - design is boring…just like Eden, Empire,… (though I like the idea of an underwater station…the execution is just bad…)

So a pistol that is the strongest since Halo CE is too weak?

Sure…

On-Topic: I really like how the map looks, for example how the light reflects from the water and onto the walls.

I believe the weapons are fairly balanced. I’m not a fan of sprint either, but overall the game looks good to me, so I’m excited for it.

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> > http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IEmcVmFqkAY
> > Do you all like how this map was designed?
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> Are you talking about how it looks like any other human map just with a different skybox or are you talking about the layout?
>
> - pistol is too weak, make it fire faster and/or make it a 4sk
> - sprint + spartan charge =huge no-go
> - sprint still is annoying
> - plasma caster looks fun!
> - layout look ok
> - design is boring…just like Eden, Empire,… (though I like the idea of an underwater station…the execution is just bad…)

I’m 90% sure the pistol is a 4 shot, have to get back you on a source though

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> > http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IEmcVmFqkAY
> > Do you all like how this map was designed?
>
>
> Are you talking about how it looks like any other human map just with a different skybox or are you talking about the layout?
>
> - pistol is too weak, make it fire faster and/or make it a 4sk
> - sprint + spartan charge =huge no-go
> - sprint still is annoying
> - plasma caster looks fun!
> - layout look ok
> - design is boring…just like Eden, Empire,… (though I like the idea of an underwater station…the execution is just bad…)

Looks like you’re not going to enjoy Halo 5 then.

The pistol was too strong in the Beta. Now it’s a good weapon side arm to whatever you’re using as your main weapon. Sprint + Spartan Charge or just Sprint in general is not an issue.

As for the map, I like it. It’s an underwater human facility, looks interesting and it’s nice to see Tim the Space Whale.

I think Fathom is gonna be fun.

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> > > http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IEmcVmFqkAY
> > > Do you all like how this map was designed?
> >
> >
> > Are you talking about how it looks like any other human map just with a different skybox or are you talking about the layout?
> >
> > - pistol is too weak, make it fire faster and/or make it a 4sk
> > - sprint + spartan charge =huge no-go
> > - sprint still is annoying
> > - plasma caster looks fun!
> > - layout look ok
> > - design is boring…just like Eden, Empire,… (though I like the idea of an underwater station…the execution is just bad…)
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> The pistol was too strong in the Beta. Now it’s a good weapon side arm to whatever you’re using as your main weapon.

  1. They gave the pistol a buff since the beta. (more damage, lower RoF)
  2. Currently it looks more like they are going for the pistol as main utility weapon. (replacing BR/DMR)

That’s a very interesting layout for a Halo map. Really eager to get a feel for it, not sure where the heavy combat spaces will be.

Every video of gameplay is just damn beautiful though, love it. And finally got a decent look at the DMR. I still prefer the H4 style, but it’s still the DMR laser beam of death.

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> > > > http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IEmcVmFqkAY
> > > > Do you all like how this map was designed?
> > >
> > >
> > > Are you talking about how it looks like any other human map just with a different skybox or are you talking about the layout?
> > >
> > > - pistol is too weak, make it fire faster and/or make it a 4sk
> > > - sprint + spartan charge =huge no-go
> > > - sprint still is annoying
> > > - plasma caster looks fun!
> > > - layout look ok
> > > - design is boring…just like Eden, Empire,… (though I like the idea of an underwater station…the execution is just bad…)
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> > The pistol was too strong in the Beta. Now it’s a good weapon side arm to whatever you’re using as your main weapon.
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> 1. They gave the pistol a buff since the beta. (more damage, lower RoF)
> 2. Currently it looks more like they are going for the pistol as main utility weapon. (replacing BR/DMR)

Either of your points debunk Darth Cedious’ point 1 that the pistol is too weak. So we’re all good.

Is this map a remix of eden?

God, the more i see of h5 the more I hate sprint.

The rest of the SAs are cool but the maps are so gigantic and stretched out because of sprint that it nullifies a lot of thier coolness.

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> > > > > http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IEmcVmFqkAY
> > > > > Do you all like how this map was designed?
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> > > >
> > > > Are you talking about how it looks like any other human map just with a different skybox or are you talking about the layout?
> > > >
> > > > - pistol is too weak, make it fire faster and/or make it a 4sk
> > > > - sprint + spartan charge =huge no-go
> > > > - sprint still is annoying
> > > > - plasma caster looks fun!
> > > > - layout look ok
> > > > - design is boring…just like Eden, Empire,… (though I like the idea of an underwater station…the execution is just bad…)
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> > >
> > > The pistol was too strong in the Beta. Now it’s a good weapon side arm to whatever you’re using as your main weapon.
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> > 1. They gave the pistol a buff since the beta. (more damage, lower RoF)
> > 2. Currently it looks more like they are going for the pistol as main utility weapon. (replacing BR/DMR)
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> Either of your points debunk Darth Cedious’ point 1 that the pistol is too weak. So we’re all good.

Well I would need to play the game first to be able to judge that.

They changed a lot from the beta. First thing that came to my mind while watching “The Simms” gameplay was that the auto aim seems to be really low now while the base player speed is also faster.

He choked a lot of shots even if he is a good player and the enemies mostly lesser skilled YouTubers.

But yeah, we will see more this friday.

I can’t wait to shoot out the plate glass window and let the shark monster in.

But seriously, that player’s aim was all over the place and some of his melee attempts were just… sad. Not to mention the cringeworthy Ground Pounds towards the end. All in all I do like the map and it looks fun times will be had there.

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> > > > http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IEmcVmFqkAY
> > > > Do you all like how this map was designed?
> > >
> > >
> > > Are you talking about how it looks like any other human map just with a different skybox or are you talking about the layout?
> > > - pistol is too weak, make it fire faster and/or make it a 4sk
> > > - sprint + spartan charge =huge no-go
> > > - sprint still is annoying
> > > - plasma caster looks fun!
> > > - layout look ok
> > > - design is boring…just like Eden, Empire,… (though I like the idea of an underwater station…the execution is just bad…)
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> > The pistol was too strong in the Beta. Now it’s a good weapon side arm to whatever you’re using as your main weapon.
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> 1. They gave the pistol a buff since the beta. (more damage, lower RoF)
> 2. Currently it looks more like they are going for the pistol as main utility weapon. (replacing BR/DMR)

If they really buffed the damage, it wasn’t a significant buff though…
It was a 5sk in the beta, it was a 5sk in the e3 built (confirmed by the “perfect kill” after 5 shots) and Simms (the one who was on stage at GC and provided beyond with this vid) answerd that the BR was 4sk after he was asked which weapons were a 4sk in this built, so it’s safe to say that it still is a 5sk…
So reduced ROF + damage buff that does not make any differance = buffed pistol? I don’t think so…
If 343 wants to make the pistol the new main utility weapon, which I like(it’s not a “sidearm”…) they should either keep it a 5sk but buff the ROF and add a few rounds or make it a 4sk!

How did his post “debunk” my 1. point?!