Minus the phantoms and the guns. It’s actually looking pretty good.
I think we as a community have over-hyped ourselves yet again and now have to deal with reality. As an older fan I don’t like the game looking so, as someone else expertly put it, so ‘megablox’. I do think that regardless I will still find a way to have fun with it.
I’m a huge fan of how chief, the covies, hog and brohammer are looking, I’m a huge fan of this open world direction. So what if chief grapples now.
I’ll look past these things and see that the real halo has been inside our hearts all along
okay no I can’t do it. Sorry 343 & forum. I was just expecting more
its more of the same. If you liked 4/5 you will love this. If you dont like 4/5 you will not like. The thing is, 343 mislead us into thinking they were going to please the classic fans. They could care less about the classic fans only to trick them into giving them money. Pathetic
Exactly what I was afraid of. Overhyping. Except I think because Halo 4 and 5 divided the fandom, there’s no common agreement on Infinite because everyone’s got their own ideas what Halo should be like. Personally I’m sticking to my guns. I won’t be buying Infinite until I know what the score is. With Cortana and the Created at least.
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> its more of the same. If you liked 4/5 you will love this. If you dont like 4/5 you will not like. The thing is, 343 mislead us into thinking they were going to please the classic fans. They could care less about the classic fans only to trick them into giving them money. Pathetic
what’s pathetic is people wanting games to be like they were in 2004-2007. Halo will need new blood to survive and it needs to get a new generation excited. I’m 38, been playing Halo since 2001 and I loved H5 multiplayer and am beyond hyped for Infinite. expectations of a Halo 3.5 were the most unrealistic.
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> Minus the phantoms and the guns. It’s actually looking pretty good.
>
> I think we as a community have over-hyped ourselves yet again and now have to deal with reality. As an older fan I don’t like the game looking so, as someone else expertly put it, so ‘megablox’. I do think that regardless I will still find a way to have fun with it.
>
> I’m a huge fan of how chief, the covies, hog and brohammer are looking, I’m a huge fan of this open world direction. So what if chief grapples now.
>
> I’ll look past these things and see that the real halo has been inside our hearts all along
>
> okay no I can’t do it. Sorry 343 & forum. I was just expecting more
I tried to be supportive, I really had hope… But this looks like Halo 5… Again. It has everything that people hated in 5, thrust, spring and clamber.
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> > its more of the same. If you liked 4/5 you will love this. If you dont like 4/5 you will not like. The thing is, 343 mislead us into thinking they were going to please the classic fans. They could care less about the classic fans only to trick them into giving them money. Pathetic
>
> what’s pathetic is people wanting games to be like they were in 2004-2007. Halo will need new blood to survive and it needs to get a new generation excited. I’m 38, been playing Halo since 2001 and I loved H5 multiplayer and am beyond hyped for Infinite. expectations of a Halo 3.5 were the most unrealistic.
I get what you mean here. I am nearly 30 years old, have been playing since CE and Xbox release. I’ll never forget how excited I was when my parents got me an Xbox at launch – at that point in time most of my friends were all wondering why I got an Xbox instead of a Playstation. I still vividly remember waiting outside EB Games around midnight to pick up my H3 collector’s edition at launch (still have the helmet in my home office).
That being said, I try not to be the ignorant hardcore fan that only comes here to call for a major reversion back to H3 style gameplay. I understand the need for things like sprint in today’s games (enhanced mobility, FPS shooters trending more towards quicker gameplay over the last 5 years). I am not adverse to that. I want the franchise to succeed and stay relevant in today’s age of competitive shooters and fully understand that requires some adaption and ability to change with the times. However, developers should be very careful on how they change their games over time and try to keep in mind what makes a particular franchise “unique” and players to keep coming back for more. Finding the right balance between these interests is easier said than done, but I don’t think 343 has been doing a stellar job in that department.
I don’t want to prematurely jump to the conclusion that Infinite will be another “bait and switch”. H5’s campaign was heavily marketed as this grand hunt for Chief expecting some epic showdown between Spartans (if you can Osiris that). I understand Infinite hasn’t been heavily marketed as a “soft reboot” or “return to classic gameplay” – these have been more subtle references up to this point. If that continues though and we end up getting an H5-type game with some weird level designs that vaguely remind me of older Halo games, I’ll be disappointed. Already talked plenty about being against an open-world campaign in other threads today. I am a big fan of certain open-world games, but it’s not for Halo.
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> > its more of the same. If you liked 4/5 you will love this. If you dont like 4/5 you will not like. The thing is, 343 mislead us into thinking they were going to please the classic fans. They could care less about the classic fans only to trick them into giving them money. Pathetic
>
> what’s pathetic is people wanting games to be like they were in 2004-2007. Halo will need new blood to survive and it needs to get a new generation excited. I’m 38, been playing Halo since 2001 and I loved H5 multiplayer and am beyond hyped for Infinite. expectations of a Halo 3.5 were the most unrealistic.
It’s like Sonic fans expecting Sonic Team and Sega to make a Sonic Adventure 3, despite it being many years after the second one. People need to stop having unrealistic expectations.
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> Minus the phantoms and the guns. It’s actually looking pretty good.
>
> I think we as a community have over-hyped ourselves yet again and now have to deal with reality. As an older fan I don’t like the game looking so, as someone else expertly put it, so ‘megablox’. I do think that regardless I will still find a way to have fun with it.
>
> I’m a huge fan of how chief, the covies, hog and brohammer are looking, I’m a huge fan of this open world direction. So what if chief grapples now.
>
> I’ll look past these things and see that the real halo has been inside our hearts all along
>
> okay no I can’t do it. Sorry 343 & forum. I was just expecting more
I’d disagree with the overhyping ourselves - I’ve been away from these forums pretty much since I finished H5 campaign, until about a week ago…and I do feel that people by & large have a point in what they’re saying.
A lot is OTT typical “ERMAHGERD THIS GAME IS DOA!!1!” fanboy rage …but people ARE raising valid points here, based off of what 343 have said. Granted they never gave absolutes saying “We will do X”, but there’s not much ambiguity to what they stated before. They’ve again tried to strike a balance and, a lot of people feel they’ve missed the mark again. But it IS early days.
One thing I am very glad to see though is what we expected - open world, which is what Halo CE would have been, had it not been for the hardware restraints of the time.
As long as the story is FAR better than H5, I’ll be happy…but for the love of God, please get rid of bloom
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> its more of the same. If you liked 4/5 you will love this. If you dont like 4/5 you will not like. The thing is, 343 mislead us into thinking they were going to please the classic fans. They could care less about the classic fans only to trick them into giving them money. Pathetic
How did they mislead anyone lol? I don’t recall seeing anyone saying they were trying to please classic fans. That’s pretty much what the MCC is for.
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> > its more of the same. If you liked 4/5 you will love this. If you dont like 4/5 you will not like. The thing is, 343 mislead us into thinking they were going to please the classic fans. They could care less about the classic fans only to trick them into giving them money. Pathetic
>
> How did they mislead anyone lol? I don’t recall seeing anyone saying they were trying to please classic fans. That’s pretty much what the MCC is for.
They changed the chiefs armor design to classic. They showed classic art style with the e3 trailer. Youtube insiders constantly saying the game is going back to Halo roots.
Then they show actual gameplay. Looks exactly like Halo 5. Yeah no im cool on that.
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> > > its more of the same. If you liked 4/5 you will love this. If you dont like 4/5 you will not like. The thing is, 343 mislead us into thinking they were going to please the classic fans. They could care less about the classic fans only to trick them into giving them money. Pathetic
> >
> > what’s pathetic is people wanting games to be like they were in 2004-2007. Halo will need new blood to survive and it needs to get a new generation excited. I’m 38, been playing Halo since 2001 and I loved H5 multiplayer and am beyond hyped for Infinite. expectations of a Halo 3.5 were the most unrealistic.
>
> It’s like Sonic fans expecting Sonic Team and Sega to make a Sonic Adventure 3, despite it being many years after the second one. People need to stop having unrealistic expectations.
Yeah imagine old school Halo fans wanting an old school Halo game. INSANE. UNREAL EXPECTATIONS
To the new fans, enjoy your franchise. The franchise THAT WE BUILT!!!.
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> > > > its more of the same. If you liked 4/5 you will love this. If you dont like 4/5 you will not like. The thing is, 343 mislead us into thinking they were going to please the classic fans. They could care less about the classic fans only to trick them into giving them money. Pathetic
> > >
> > > what’s pathetic is people wanting games to be like they were in 2004-2007. Halo will need new blood to survive and it needs to get a new generation excited. I’m 38, been playing Halo since 2001 and I loved H5 multiplayer and am beyond hyped for Infinite. expectations of a Halo 3.5 were the most unrealistic.
> >
> > It’s like Sonic fans expecting Sonic Team and Sega to make a Sonic Adventure 3, despite it being many years after the second one. People need to stop having unrealistic expectations.
>
> Yeah imagine old school Halo fans wanting an old school Halo game. INSANE. UNREAL EXPECTATIONS
>
> To the new fans, enjoy your franchise. The franchise THAT WE BUILT!!!.
>
> YOURE WELCOME
Yeah, it’s unrealistic. Don’t expect 343 to make a game with a completely classic art-style. They’re the ones after all who changed it in Halo 4 and 5. I will be super surprised if 343 makes a new Halo game with an artstyle that looks just like Bungie’s games. I would honestly be fine with it, but I don’t see what’s wrong with the new artstyle. I think it looks pretty unique (in terms of Halo games at least.) I’ve already excepted the fact that new Halo is not the exact same as old Halo, but I’m fine with it, because again, I care about Halo’s story and gameplay. The artstyle just compliments everything else.
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> Minus the phantoms and the guns. It’s actually looking pretty good.
>
> I think we as a community have over-hyped ourselves yet again and now have to deal with reality. As an older fan I don’t like the game looking so, as someone else expertly put it, so ‘megablox’. I do think that regardless I will still find a way to have fun with it.
>
> I’m a huge fan of how chief, the covies, hog and brohammer are looking, I’m a huge fan of this open world direction. So what if chief grapples now.
>
> I’ll look past these things and see that the real halo has been inside our hearts all along
>
> okay no I can’t do it. Sorry 343 & forum. I was just expecting more
I Didn’t hyped it. I saw it all the time cirital. But now I’m reaölly dissapointed…
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> > > its more of the same. If you liked 4/5 you will love this. If you dont like 4/5 you will not like. The thing is, 343 mislead us into thinking they were going to please the classic fans. They could care less about the classic fans only to trick them into giving them money. Pathetic
> >
> > How did they mislead anyone lol? I don’t recall seeing anyone saying they were trying to please classic fans. That’s pretty much what the MCC is for.
>
> They changed the chiefs armor design to classic. They showed classic art style with the e3 trailer. Youtube insiders constantly saying the game is going back to Halo roots.
>
> Then they show actual gameplay. Looks exactly like Halo 5. Yeah no im cool on that.
The armor isn’t really classic? It looks the most like the Halo 4: Forward Unto Dawn chief. Classic Chief = MK V in my mind. I would argue they didn’t really show any art style, because they didn’t show any gameplay. “Youtube Insiders” is exactly that - phony clickbait videos.
I don’t think the developers did anything to mislead anyone. Don’t blame your expectations for it on what you surmised it was going to be from sources other than the developers.
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> > > > its more of the same. If you liked 4/5 you will love this. If you dont like 4/5 you will not like. The thing is, 343 mislead us into thinking they were going to please the classic fans. They could care less about the classic fans only to trick them into giving them money. Pathetic
> > >
> > > How did they mislead anyone lol? I don’t recall seeing anyone saying they were trying to please classic fans. That’s pretty much what the MCC is for.
> >
> > They changed the chiefs armor design to classic. They showed classic art style with the e3 trailer. Youtube insiders constantly saying the game is going back to Halo roots.
> >
> > Then they show actual gameplay. Looks exactly like Halo 5. Yeah no im cool on that.
>
> The armor isn’t really classic? It looks the most like the Halo 4: Forward Unto Dawn chief. Classic Chief = MK V in my mind. I would argue they didn’t really show any art style, because they didn’t show any gameplay. “Youtube Insiders” is exactly that - phony clickbait videos.
>
> I don’t think the developers did anything to mislead anyone. Don’t blame your expectations for it on what you surmised it was going to be from sources other than the developers.
I mean, gameplay was shown at the Xbox showcase. It showed just a tiny amount of what Halo Infinite looks like, and since it’s not gonna be finished in months, many details will likely be modified. That’s what happened with many Halo games including Halo 2, Halo Combat Evolved Anniversary, and Halo 4. In Halo Anniversary, they were originally going to give the Assault Rifle the design from Halo Reach, as it shows that design in early gameplay.
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> > 2535423661615819;2:
> > its more of the same. If you liked 4/5 you will love this. If you dont like 4/5 you will not like. The thing is, 343 mislead us into thinking they were going to please the classic fans. They could care less about the classic fans only to trick them into giving them money. Pathetic
>
> what’s pathetic is people wanting games to be like they were in 2004-2007. Halo will need new blood to survive and it needs to get a new generation excited. I’m 38, been playing Halo since 2001 and I loved H5 multiplayer and am beyond hyped for Infinite. expectations of a Halo 3.5 were the most unrealistic.
Then there are those who don’t really understand that games can innovate, add, improve and change outside of the player box, meaning of course, a game’s incremental number isn’t tied to player mechanics only.
But please humour me, what’s the difference between Halo 2 and Halo 3 which warrant a hole numerical increase in “sequelness”?
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> > > > > its more of the same. If you liked 4/5 you will love this. If you dont like 4/5 you will not like. The thing is, 343 mislead us into thinking they were going to please the classic fans. They could care less about the classic fans only to trick them into giving them money. Pathetic
> > > >
> > > > How did they mislead anyone lol? I don’t recall seeing anyone saying they were trying to please classic fans. That’s pretty much what the MCC is for.
> > >
> > > They changed the chiefs armor design to classic. They showed classic art style with the e3 trailer. Youtube insiders constantly saying the game is going back to Halo roots.
> > >
> > > Then they show actual gameplay. Looks exactly like Halo 5. Yeah no im cool on that.
> >
> > The armor isn’t really classic? It looks the most like the Halo 4: Forward Unto Dawn chief. Classic Chief = MK V in my mind. I would argue they didn’t really show any art style, because they didn’t show any gameplay. “Youtube Insiders” is exactly that - phony clickbait videos.
> >
> > I don’t think the developers did anything to mislead anyone. Don’t blame your expectations for it on what you surmised it was going to be from sources other than the developers.
>
> I mean, gameplay was shown at the Xbox showcase. It showed just a tiny amount of what Halo Infinite looks like, and since it’s not gonna be finished in months, many details will likely be modified. That’s what happened with many Halo games including Halo 2, Halo Combat Evolved Anniversary, and Halo 4. In Halo Anniversary, they were originally going to give the Assault Rifle the design from Halo Reach, as it shows that design in early gameplay.
I mean, no crap gameplay was just shown haha.
This guy was saying he was hyped up before the gameplay was even released, saying that the game was definitely going back to its Halo roots. There was no official developer indication of this, any of it is just imagined.
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> > > > > > its more of the same. If you liked 4/5 you will love this. If you dont like 4/5 you will not like. The thing is, 343 mislead us into thinking they were going to please the classic fans. They could care less about the classic fans only to trick them into giving them money. Pathetic
> > > > >
> > > > > How did they mislead anyone lol? I don’t recall seeing anyone saying they were trying to please classic fans. That’s pretty much what the MCC is for.
> > > >
> > > > They changed the chiefs armor design to classic. They showed classic art style with the e3 trailer. Youtube insiders constantly saying the game is going back to Halo roots.
> > > >
> > > > Then they show actual gameplay. Looks exactly like Halo 5. Yeah no im cool on that.
> > >
> > > The armor isn’t really classic? It looks the most like the Halo 4: Forward Unto Dawn chief. Classic Chief = MK V in my mind. I would argue they didn’t really show any art style, because they didn’t show any gameplay. “Youtube Insiders” is exactly that - phony clickbait videos.
> > >
> > > I don’t think the developers did anything to mislead anyone. Don’t blame your expectations for it on what you surmised it was going to be from sources other than the developers.
> >
> > I mean, gameplay was shown at the Xbox showcase. It showed just a tiny amount of what Halo Infinite looks like, and since it’s not gonna be finished in months, many details will likely be modified. That’s what happened with many Halo games including Halo 2, Halo Combat Evolved Anniversary, and Halo 4. In Halo Anniversary, they were originally going to give the Assault Rifle the design from Halo Reach, as it shows that design in early gameplay.
>
> I mean, no crap gameplay was just shown haha.
>
> This guy was saying he was hyped up before the gameplay was even released, saying that the game was definitely going back to its Halo roots. There was no official developer indication of this, any of it is just imagined.
