Networking Problems Galore

Now before you start to lecture me on how networking actually works, please don’t. I have many years of all around hands on and off IT, Security, and Development background.

The game has been brutally, no my bad, obscenely and criminally bad at picking out accurate games for players in different parts of the country or in different countries all together.

I refuse to believe that players in other countries have Internet ping and jitter speeds that rival United States’ Internet Service Providers. I would know, I have worked with countries that are still developing their backbone infrastructure (Many Central and South American are still under 50Mbps unless you are wealthy and can afford something that is speedy and reliable). Now this begs the question, how can someone who is clearly running under the 20Mbps Download / 1~3Mbps Upload speed, in a different country, where the distance is over 4000 miles in some cases be paired up with; 1) Someone who clearly has a speed of 1Gbps both up and down? 2) Where they probably play in an Internet cafe (They still exist), OR against someone who is running at 350 or 450Mbps with an upload speed of 20~30Mbps? In the United States no less, be considered fair? In social game types, I don’t really care about these issues, it is only in ranked that these issues matter the most. Milliseconds in a ranked game can cost a player their entire match.

This shouldn’t be occurring. Just because someone pings at a certain time as they look for a match doesn’t mean they have stable Internet the entire time they match up. I have seen ping times sustained for a minute or two before they drop off significantly when traffic increases to transmit packets. Especially when everyone knows that the opponent’s Internet is beyond a doubt slow. These types of players should first of all; 1) Not be included in people’s ranked games because they are NOT able to meet the criteria of fair game play. 2) They should NOT be able to play because even if they can sustain a ping or jitter times, they are clearly favored with the delay in the connection from a foreign country.

The disappearance acts are a complete joke at times. The absolute lack of consistent headshots, as if their killbox is way off their face, or even the supposed 50-50 duels that look like 70-30 in the opponents favor. I see someone for a couple of seconds and they flat out are gone. I have to go back and watch replays of some of these games just to see HOW they evaded a clear no win scenario. Apparently, they pulled a Captain Kirk and the Kobayashi Maru trick of winning no-win scenarios.

Now, I have had to sit down with my ISP to tell me whether or not my Internet is unstable or if my devices are the cause of Internet issues while I play this game. The answer to that is no. I have no problems with Internet stability. I run prosumer grade hardware for my network. I run pretty much as close as you can to top notch hardware without going overboard. No other games outside of Halo do I have as many issues with Networking as this multiplayer matchups.

What is the deal here? This makes the game completely unbearable to play. It’s been happening more and more frequently. I understand drops in population so the pool is smaller, but I know it isn’t THAT small. So what exactly is causing the problems?

I am purposefully bumping this to see if anyone beyond a moderator will answer some of these questions or give more clarity into the halo network.

The populations really are that small, I can’t even find a game in half the playlists, so I’ll take laggy players over infinite queues any day. I agree that it does favour laggy player sometimes which is very annoying, but not allowing them to play is the not right way to solve the problem. And intentionally breaking forum rules probably isn’t going to help you.

Latency over obscene amounts of bandwidth allocation.

ive never had intense problems with matchmaking connection, and I’ve played on networks of 7mbps - 300mbps

perhaps there is an invisible agent that you’re unaware of, because I play with people in other countries on the other side of the globe without matchmaking issues

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> Latency over obscene amounts of bandwidth allocation.
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> ive never had intense problems with matchmaking connection, and I’ve played on networks of 7mbps - 300mbps
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> perhaps there is an invisible agent that you’re unaware of, because I play with people in other countries on the other side of the globe without matchmaking issues

When you connect to a dedicated server, you are not connecting to other people. At least not that I am aware in this game. I haven’t really dug into it. The latency on their connection to the host is the problem.

Are you making sure you search on Focused or Balanced? Searching on Expanded opens you up to players with subpar connections.

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> Are you making sure you search on Focused or Balanced? Searching on Expanded opens you up to players with subpar connections.

Oh, I know what I am doing in that regard. That is definitely not the issue.

So I wonder when a mod or admin is going to answer any of the questions that I just brought up.

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I would prefer an admin to reach out and answer those questions detailed. This is getting ridiculous.

Just curious OP, have you seen this thread before?
It’s really an eye opener:

https://www.halowaypoint.com/en-us/forums/58b8518e005f432381ab99fbcaf931e0/topics/the-cat-is-out-of-the-bag-on-halo-5-servers/a099c966-ba42-46e6-bb59-27aef4ea0df4/posts

You’re really qualified. Go drop off a resume at 343 and see how that works for ya. Sounds like you could really turn things around for them!

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> Just curious OP, have you seen this thread before?
> It’s really an eye opener:
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> https://www.halowaypoint.com/en-us/forums/58b8518e005f432381ab99fbcaf931e0/topics/the-cat-is-out-of-the-bag-on-halo-5-servers/a099c966-ba42-46e6-bb59-27aef4ea0df4/posts

No, but this doesn’t really surprise me that I see these responses or posts. Even the person that posted below you (after you) is sarcastically replying to my initial post. The reality is that it is as bad as it seems. There is no reason to have such lousy gameplay because of network issues. There’s a reason why certain games MMORPG’s, etc., keep gamers in specific regions, this is usually why.

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> > 2535457204111741;9:
> > Just curious OP, have you seen this thread before?
> > It’s really an eye opener:
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> > https://www.halowaypoint.com/en-us/forums/58b8518e005f432381ab99fbcaf931e0/topics/the-cat-is-out-of-the-bag-on-halo-5-servers/a099c966-ba42-46e6-bb59-27aef4ea0df4/posts
>
> Even the person that posted below you (after you) is sarcastically replying to my initial post.

I agree with you bro, this forum can be very toxic at times.
Would love to see an official response from a 343 employee.

If an admin or forum moderator replies, they’re response will be a copy/paste & generic answer.

I doubt you’ll get an answer from 343. H5 only has a sustain team on it which is likely a small team for playlist updates and a person that is qualified to answer probably doesn’t come on these forums.

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> I doubt you’ll get an answer from 343. H5 only has a sustain team on it which is likely a small team for playlist updates and a person that is qualified to answer probably doesn’t come on these forums.

Unfortunately true. Doesn’t mean that I can’t raise hell until someone gives me a comprehensive answer to the problems at hand. How about some transparency where these servers live and what the criteria is set for players across the country? That’s just one question I’d like answered.

Servers have tanked recently. They are the worst of any game I’ve ever played on Xbox one. 343 doesn’t care. Never seen them comment in the forums.

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Suck it up buttercup

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> Suck it up buttercup

Weird, I said that same exact thing to your mom last night. :rofl::rofl::rofl:

The worst part is the post is actively watched by moderators. Yet, no one has bothered to answer the questions/suggestions/or problem in the original post.

I’ll be honest, I’ve had far more issues getting into matches at all than I have had issues playing. I play on Expanded. Risky move, but I literally cannot find any games without doing so. I really wish 343 had kept the activity heatmaps in the menus, or at least a display showing you how many people were playing X playlist /: I managed to get in a few games recently but it was only a handful before I was suddenly not finding any players to match up with. It really does upset me how dead this game is now. I don’t have friends who even own an Xbox, let alone Halo 5.

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> The worst part is the post is actively watched by moderators. Yet, no one has bothered to answer the questions/suggestions/or problem in the original post.

Moderators don’t work for 343 and not all of us have experience with networking. Unless there is information available already that we can direct users do, there’s nothing we can assist with.