A last man standing in Hivemind is far too powerful. The only true way to stop them is by making them waste all their bullets on your fellow Flood jumping them in the lead with no effort. If they have a SAW or an AR there is little reason to attack them besides feeding them kills.
I hate hivemind IMO. It is a terrible version of Flood. Everyone has AR’s, this isn’t right and should not be allowed. I’m just glad not many people vote for it, but when they do, it is one of the only game types I rage quit on.
I agree.
The LMS does way too much damage.
> I hate hivemind IMO. It is a terrible version of Flood. Everyone has AR’s, this isn’t right and should not be allowed. I’m just glad not many people vote for it, but when they do, it is one of the only game types I rage quit on.
I have no issue with Hivemind besides the last man standing being only 1 step from invincible.
Also its not rare for me i get Hivemind more than the normal Flood mode
> I hate hivemind IMO. It is a terrible version of Flood. Everyone has AR’s, this isn’t right and should not be allowed. I’m just glad not many people vote for it, but when they do, it is one of the only game types I rage quit on.
Hivemind: Over-powered Last Man Standing.
Flood: Invisible people and flying zombies.
Yeah, I’ll go with Hivemind.
I hate Flood. It’s terrible.
> > I hate hivemind IMO. It is a terrible version of Flood. Everyone has AR’s, this isn’t right and should not be allowed. I’m just glad not many people vote for it, but when they do, it is one of the only game types I rage quit on.
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> I have no issue with Hivemind besides the last man standing being only 1 step from invincible.
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> Also its not rare for me i get Hivemind more than the normal Flood mode
Other than the OP LMS, Hivemind is great.
I also play Hivemind more often than Flood.
HELL NO. It’s one of my favorite things about Hivemind! In the past, being the Last Man Standing tended to suck; all those zombie ganging up on you at once, it was usually impossible to survive for more than a minute unless the other players were particularly stupid.
The only thing I would accept is nerfing the Last Man’s damage resistance so he can be killed by a single blow; that way it only takes one Flood getting through to take him down.
P.S. Hivemind is awesome, to heck with everyone who says otherwise. It’s the gametype that actually made me want to play the Flood playlist.
> > > I hate hivemind IMO. It is a terrible version of Flood. Everyone has AR’s, this isn’t right and should not be allowed. I’m just glad not many people vote for it, but when they do, it is one of the only game types I rage quit on.
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> > I have no issue with Hivemind besides the last man standing being only 1 step from invincible.
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> > Also its not rare for me i get Hivemind more than the normal Flood mode
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> Other than the OP LMS, Hivemind is great.
> I also play Hivemind more often than Flood.
I say its BS for me to be this guy fighting for every inch whilethis guy gets last man standing for hiding in a corner with his AR and 2 shots every zombie and wins the game.
> HELL NO. It’s one of my favorite things about Hivemind! In the past, being the Last Man Standing tended to suck; all those zombie ganging up on you at once, it was usually impossible to survive for more than a minute unless the other players were particularly stupid.
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> The only thing I would accept is nerfing the Last Man’s damage resistance so he can be killed by a single blow; that way it only takes one Flood getting through to take him down.
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> P.S. Hivemind is awesome, to heck with everyone who says otherwise. It’s the gametype that actually made me want to play the Flood playlist.
Like my comment above says but making LMS one hit would help alot.
> > I hate hivemind IMO. It is a terrible version of Flood. Everyone has AR’s, this isn’t right and should not be allowed. I’m just glad not many people vote for it, but when they do, it is one of the only game types I rage quit on.
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> Hivemind: Over-powered Last Man Standing.
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> Flood: Invisible people and flying zombies.
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> Yeah, I’ll go with Hivemind.
> I hate Flood. It’s terrible.
Yup I have to agree, AA’s ruined flood. Still hate hivemind though…
> > I hate hivemind IMO. It is a terrible version of Flood. Everyone has AR’s, this isn’t right and should not be allowed. I’m just glad not many people vote for it, but when they do, it is one of the only game types I rage quit on.
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> Hivemind: Over-powered Last Man Standing.
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> Flood: Invisible people and flying zombies.
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> Yeah, I’ll go with Hivemind.
> I hate Flood. It’s terrible.
And you’d be wrong for picking it, hivemind is an absolutely terrible gametype and I can say that without any allowance for taste. If you care at all about multiplayer, you should hate it because it’s completely unilateral. If you care at all about shooters, you should hate it because there is nothing to do as any human, never mind the LMS, except gun down the poor zombies who don’t even have the benefit of the one hit kill for when they do finally get within whacking distance of your super weapons. IE. you have just about the same depth and challenge as duck hunt and the only thing you can really do to compensate for tha is to let yourself be infected (especially as LMS) so the match can end sooner.
So under no terms does Hivement work, which is a huge departure from Flood which is probably the sole remaining example of “honest fun” Halo’s multiplayer still has to offer. Zombies are unique and deadly, humans still feel somewhat empowered, the interactions can be hilarious, and pulling a zombie killing spree actually MEANS something besides “I spawned on the right team.” It’s a decent gametype and standing next to the abomination of Hivemind (as well as the garbage Bungie turned infection into, ex. Speed Demons) that probably makes it the most deserving gametype this series has ever seen.
> HELL NO. It’s one of my favorite things about Hivemind! In the past, being the Last Man Standing tended to suck; all those zombie ganging up on you at once, it was usually impossible to survive for more than a minute unless the other players were particularly stupid.
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> The only thing I would accept is nerfing the Last Man’s damage resistance so he can be killed by a single blow; that way it only takes one Flood getting through to take him down.
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> P.S. Hivemind is awesome, to heck with everyone who says otherwise. It’s the gametype that actually made me want to play the Flood playlist.
That’s actually what made Flood and Living Dead fun for so many people. Knowing that you were more or less doomed as the Last Man Standing, or even as one of the last remaining survivors. But Hivemind takes the fun out of that completely. The only way to win is to play dirty and let your teammates die so you can horde kills as the last man, and that’s assuming you get down to a last man in the first place.
I suggest that the last man deals less damage and that survivors die in one hit.
Don’t know if you know about this Forum, but posting here gives the MM Team quick and easy access to all of your concerns:
Flood Feedback
People are definitely posting in there about their concerns about the LMS’s incredible damage boost. Some do say they like it, but I think it’s more of the fact that the LMS gets some kind of boost at all.
I’ve suggested that the LMS should definitely get some kind boost, and a damage boost makes sense, but it needs to be toned down. Right now, it’s at 200%, which makes the SAW and Magnum a 2sk, and the AR a 4sk. I say tone it down to 150%, maybe even 125%. And then possibly give the LMS an Overshield/damage resistance buff (make the shields recharge longer to compensate, obviously). So basically make it where the AR takes 6-8 shots to kill, and the LMS can survive 3-4 hits. This makes it where the LMS can deal with the Flood, and get quite a few kills, but if the Flood are jumping him, yes, he’s going to take down a few (maybe half), but he’s dead no matter what.
The current LMS makes it where hiding is hugely rewarded. Why fight the Flood, get around 4-8 kills, and then become a Flood, when you can just sit then rack up 20 kills like it’s a joke? Yes, the LMS should get a buff, but the current buff is not the way to go.
There’s only two things I have a problem with Hivemind: The LMS’s damage boost, and the Yoink-slap (you know, that Human melee that makes the Flood’s ambushes completely irrelevant). Fix those two things, and Hivemind will be perfect IMO. I, and my friends, freaking LOVE Hivemind. It’s so much fun. But those two things ruin it at times.
I like it the way it is. Usually the last man standing gets an over kill, has to reload and then dies. As long as the flood are not idiots and rush him one at a time the flood will win.
Being the last man standing is really the most fun you can have in the playlist.
> A last man standing in Hivemind is far too powerful. The only true way to stop them is by making them waste all their bullets on your fellow Flood jumping them in the lead with no effort. If they have a SAW or an AR there is little reason to attack them besides feeding them kills.
Normally I pay about as much attention to these threads as I do to a common houseplant, but you might be onto something about this.
I got a Killionaire last week playing Hivemind when I was the Last Man Standing. It’s on my fileshare if anyone wants to see it. Best FFA gametype in Halo 4.
Think the hardest part of Hivemind is actually getting hold of a shotgun or SAW at the start but I’ve seen a lot of guys tear Flood up with just the pistol and AR. That sentry on Drillsite is very useful too. I must admit the LMS damage buff is pretty insane but its fun watching those multi-kills stacking up.
Honestly it would suck if they significantly weaken the the damage in LMS. It would just be all the flood swarming you and you won’t get a chance to kill one. I think LMS in hivemind gives you a fighting chance against the flood.
If the LMS was slightly nerfed, then hivemind would be a great game mode.
Guys, instead of bringing back old threads, let’s use the Flood feedback thread instead:
https://forums.halowaypoint.com/yaf_postst186219_Flood-Feedback.aspx
Thanks!