Grapple shot needs to be nerfed for MP. The way I understand how it works, you can essentially use it to grapple onto someone with the energy sword or gravity hammer and kill them instantly. And if that’s gonna happen, removing the Spartan Charge would’ve been worthless.
What???.. How do you know that? We haven’t even seen anything about the multiplayer let alone the grappler.
343 has said that grapple as well as other equipment will function differently in MP than it will in campaign
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> Grapple shot needs to be nerfed for MP. The way I understand how it works, you can essentially use it to grapple onto someone with the energy sword or gravity hammer and kill them instantly. And if that’s gonna happen, removing the Spartan Charge would’ve been worthless.
Grapple hook in mp is a pick up, meaning it works like an Armor Ability that you have to fight for on the map. Think evade AA in Halo Reach MLG playlist basically - or maybe it has limited uses, in which case it would be more like an equipment from H3.
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> Grapple shot needs to be nerfed for MP. The way I understand how it works, you can essentially use it to grapple onto someone with the energy sword or gravity hammer and kill them instantly. And if that’s gonna happen, removing the Spartan Charge would’ve been worthless.
What basis is there for equipment playing the same? From what I can tell everything will be adjusted accordingly for MP and campaign. And though I agree, I won’t miss spartan charge (though I didn’t hate it), I’ll miss the dash, so very very much. I felt like the dash complimented Halo’s gameplay so well. It gives you a chance to fight back, even if you got ambushed, unlike games such as COD.
How about we just don’t have Grapple shot in the MP at all 
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> How about we just don’t have Grapple shot in the MP at all
I mean, if its a map pickup, what’s the big deal? do you hate the gravity lift just as much? I imagine it will be a single use pickup similar to equipment in Halo 3
We don’t even know how it works in MP yet, it could be completely different from the campaign
Beside from the campaign trailer we can already see it has some downsides likely to be found in MP. Grappled opponents animations are not influenced by it unless they are already in stuned animation (notice that the elite does not have a change in its animation when grabbed) which means it’s higly possible that someone you grab can shoot you in the air. It will not be that easy I think.
It’s a map pick up
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> Grapple shot needs to be nerfed for MP. The way I understand how it works, you can essentially use it to grapple onto someone with the energy sword or gravity hammer and kill them instantly. And if that’s gonna happen, removing the Spartan Charge would’ve been worthless.
Where did you determine that’s how it works? Lets say for the sake of discussion that is how it works, how would that be any different from any other instant kill weapon in Halo? If it’s a map pick up, I really don’t see any game breaking issue here.
Spartan charge an the slide was op gave you a better chance against people set up camping with power weapons I hope they don’t take it out. The grapple hook might end up like Jetpacks an armor lock in Reach gamebreaking for competitive PvP but a welcome addition to social an PvE. They can just exclude the equipment from some of the playlists
Calling for nerfs before you even know how it works is very 2020.
I dont want the Grapple shot for multiplayer, just for campaign