My Slayer Placed rank.pls reconsider.

I Completed my placement matches for slayer last night, here are my stats/what i went.
I won 8 out of the 10 matches
Positive 9 out of the 10 matches
6 matches i got over 20 kills
top of my team every single game
And i got placed silver 4. I feel like im not this rank i think i should be in plat or diamond at least as ive seen alot of vids and threads about someone going 3 wins out of 10 and bottom ever time and they get onyx so i hope you can understand where im coming from and hopefully you can change my rank pls

You haven’t been in the arena for a while so it kind of starts you over again. You should place better next season with a similar record.

thats a bit crap though cause i shouldnt be in silver

If you have played against bronze/silver/gold, the placement is correct. It doesn’t matter too much how many wins or positive you do, it is more important the enemies rank against you are playing/winning/losing.

In addition to winning your placement matches, what determines your rank is the rank of the people you face during your placement matches.
If you were placed in Silver, that suggests you were playing against players in a similar or lower rank.
For you to get ranked in Platinum or Diamond, you’ll need to win against players ranked in Gold or Platinum. Looking back through your recent Slayer matches, most of those matches were against Bronze/Silver tier enemies. This is why you were ranked in Silver.

If you don’t belong in silver then grind out of it, it won’t take that long and then next season you’ll place higher.

Same thing happened to me in arena last night it’s been a while since I’ve played competitively but I’m a former champion in swat and I win 6 of the 10 games and reck the other teams kill wise in all of them and it places me silver 6 :joy:

I recognize that this forum exists in part for members to provide answers to questions and inquiries, and the responses here are attempts at being helpful. That being said, it is all just conjecture. Without referenced sources for the formula that goes into the ranking procedure people are just guessing, based on what they think might have happened in the past. And there are no actual sources to reference since 343 does not share any of their proprietary info on the ranking algorithms. Players have attempted to make detailed, in depth comparisons of similarly skilled players completing their placement matches side by side. All that has been shown is inconsistency. When I see one of the top pro players in the world rank Gold 5 playing solo TA on a smurf (his last placement game recorded 100% accuracy!) I know the system is broke.

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> Same thing happened to me in arena last night it’s been a while since I’ve played competitively but I’m a former champion in swat and I win 6 of the 10 games and reck the other teams kill wise in all of them and it places me silver 6 :joy:

Wanna help me reach diamond? I was able to get Platinum 5 last season, but things are getting stupid with all of this random bad luck and people leaving matches. I can easily reach diamond with at least one good teammate. Heck, I’ll even join your guild or spartan group if required.

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> > Same thing happened to me in arena last night it’s been a while since I’ve played competitively but I’m a former champion in swat and I win 6 of the 10 games and reck the other teams kill wise in all of them and it places me silver 6 :joy:
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> Wanna help me reach diamond? I was able to get Platinum 5 last season, but things are getting stupid with all of this random bad luck and people leaving matches. I can easily reach diamond with at least one good teammate. Heck, I’ll even join your guild or spartan group if required.

In arena?

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> I recognize that this forum exists in part for members to provide answers to questions and inquiries, and the responses here are attempts at being helpful. That being said, it is all just conjecture. Without referenced sources for the formula that goes into the ranking procedure people are just guessing, based on what they think might have happened in the past. And there are no actual sources to reference since 343 does not share any of their proprietary info on the ranking algorithms. Players have attempted to make detailed, in depth comparisons of similarly skilled players completing their placement matches side by side. All that has been shown is inconsistency. When I see one of the top pro players in the world rank Gold 5 playing solo TA on a smurf (his last placement game recorded 100% accuracy!) I know the system is broke.

It seems the system tends to also factor in the previous season’s rankings when determining ranks for the current season after completing the placement matches. So it stands to reason that a smurf account, with no previous history in the rankings, will likely not be ranked very high no matter how well they do. So if a person is truly better than their initial ranking, then they’ll prove it and rank up, and next season they’ll likely start off with a higher ranking after placement matches.

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> > I recognize that this forum exists in part for members to provide answers to questions and inquiries, and the responses here are attempts at being helpful. That being said, it is all just conjecture. Without referenced sources for the formula that goes into the ranking procedure people are just guessing, based on what they think might have happened in the past. And there are no actual sources to reference since 343 does not share any of their proprietary info on the ranking algorithms. Players have attempted to make detailed, in depth comparisons of similarly skilled players completing their placement matches side by side. All that has been shown is inconsistency. When I see one of the top pro players in the world rank Gold 5 playing solo TA on a smurf (his last placement game recorded 100% accuracy!) I know the system is broke.
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> It seems the system tends to also factor in the previous season’s rankings when determining ranks for the current season after completing the placement matches. So it stands to reason that a smurf account, with no previous history in the rankings, will likely not be ranked very high no matter how well they do. So if a person is truly better than their initial ranking, then they’ll prove it and rank up, and next season they’ll likely start off with a higher ranking after placement matches.

I’m pretty sure you are correct on all counts. Without a specific source to reference I’ve heard that the highest rank a brand new acct can get is Plat 6. It’s just more proof the system does not work as advertised. It serves as the proverbial carrot on a stick, not an actual measure of skill. When a player destroys the competition every game recording stats like 100% accuracy along the way and gets Gold 5 it’s actually laughable. Players that let themselves get disappointed or embarrassed by their rank are not getting the joke. It’s designed to make you want to play more to move up, and if your first couple dozen games are against easy pickings you get more positive reinforcement. The guy who should be embarrassed is the one who took money for creating the system and calling it Competitive Skill Rank. Now that players can rank down full tiers for losing there is no danger in initially ranking them too high and having them get stuck there. So now the placement system appears more broken than it was initially… sound familiar?

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> > > I recognize that this forum exists in part for members to provide answers to questions and inquiries, and the responses here are attempts at being helpful. That being said, it is all just conjecture. Without referenced sources for the formula that goes into the ranking procedure people are just guessing, based on what they think might have happened in the past. And there are no actual sources to reference since 343 does not share any of their proprietary info on the ranking algorithms. Players have attempted to make detailed, in depth comparisons of similarly skilled players completing their placement matches side by side. All that has been shown is inconsistency. When I see one of the top pro players in the world rank Gold 5 playing solo TA on a smurf (his last placement game recorded 100% accuracy!) I know the system is broke.
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> > It seems the system tends to also factor in the previous season’s rankings when determining ranks for the current season after completing the placement matches. So it stands to reason that a smurf account, with no previous history in the rankings, will likely not be ranked very high no matter how well they do. So if a person is truly better than their initial ranking, then they’ll prove it and rank up, and next season they’ll likely start off with a higher ranking after placement matches.
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> I’m pretty sure you are correct on all counts. Without a specific source to reference I’ve heard that the highest rank a brand new acct can get is Plat 6. It’s just more proof the system does not work as advertised. It serves as the proverbial carrot on a stick, not an actual measure of skill. When a player destroys the competition every game recording stats like 100% accuracy along the way and gets Gold 5 it’s actually laughable. Players that let themselves get disappointed or embarrassed by their rank are not getting the joke. It’s designed to make you want to play more to move up, and if your first couple dozen games are against easy pickings you get more positive reinforcement. The guy who should be embarrassed is the one who took money for creating the system and calling it Competitive Skill Rank. Now that players can rank down full tiers for losing there is no danger in initially ranking them too high and having them get stuck there. So now the placement system appears more broken than it was initially… sound familiar?

I’ve seen people place diamond 3 on smurf accounts. It highly depends on who you play against and is not consistent but if you keep playing and placing it generally gets the skill rating right. At least from looking at my friend’s placements and where I think their skill is at. Which I know is not a huge pool for analysis but oh well.

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> If you have played against bronze/silver/gold, the placement is correct. It doesn’t matter too much how many wins or positive you do, it is more important the enemies rank against you are playing/winning/losing.

I used to think the same until FFA ranking this season. I matched against multiple Onyx players in at least half my games (also matched plenty of diamond players). My worst finish was 4th. I finished better than the onyx guys most of the time and won 7 from 10. I was placed Plat 6. I’ve had worst placement games against lower ranked opponents and placed Diamond before.

You just cannot take your placement rank in any playlist seriously. You cannot. If you’re going to play this game that is the mindset you need to have. Every experience I’ve had and observed, along with every post about it I read on Waypoint confirms this. And it’s not just a case of lower ranks being unhappy and complaining. Even the players who regularly get Onyx 1700 think it’s a joke. At the risk of repeating myself, your placement is not a measure of your skill. It’s a starting point. The whole system of seasonal resets and low placements is designed to make competitive individuals want to spend more time playing the game. Now get started :wink:

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> > If you have played against bronze/silver/gold, the placement is correct. It doesn’t matter too much how many wins or positive you do, it is more important the enemies rank against you are playing/winning/losing.
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> I used to think the same until FFA ranking this season. I matched against multiple Onyx players in at least half my games (also matched plenty of diamond players). My worst finish was 4th. I finished better than the onyx guys most of the time and won 7 from 10. I was placed Plat 6. I’ve had worst placement games against lower ranked opponents and placed Diamond before.

You’re gutter trash. Your stats are worthless. You have absolutely no idea what you’re talking about.