Here’s my rant just to get my thoughts out…no need to get mad or upset everyone should be allowed to get there opinion out here goes…
Why when bungie produced 3 online halo games that the online multiplayer was almost perfect as far as Playlist and gametypes where only thing that needed fixing was small updates such as fine tuning the gameplay through updates and they actually kept you informed on what was going on through the process
But 343i ships a incomplete product 3 times in a row in H4, MCC, and now H5 all missing major gametypes that’s been a staple of halo since halo 2 then add them in temporary Playlist that last for only a weekend lack of maps for warzone where you end up playing the same map 3 times straight remove being able to see what medals you earned to tell you well now I have to go to waypoint to see them which is dumb so I have to quit the game I’m playing just to see my medals.
My point being is 343i is not taking halo in the right direction the new features are good as far as Spartan abilities but the lack of core features in H5 especially BTB which should have been ready at launch along with forge or the fact that H4 btb was only slayer when it first came out no bomb or flag or the fact that mcc btb and most gametypes didn’t and sometimes still don’t work is amazing to me. I know we’ll people will say we’ll they didn’t want any issues like mcc had but for Yoinks sake they shouldn’t have any problems the game is barebones and they’re too cryptic when making announcements one minute they say something next you don’t hear anything for 3 months lol for a 3 year development time you’d think the full game would have shipped… ok I’m done
To an extent I agree. They’ve revamped the forge system and while it should have been included, they are still adding it. They are adding playlists, and as I’m sure you know the weekend playlists are double XP. Warzone only has like 3 maps which is -Yoink-, there should have been more.
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> To an extent I agree. They’ve revamped the forge system and while it should have been included, they are still adding it. They are adding playlists, and as I’m sure you know the weekend playlists are double XP. Warzone only has like 3 maps which is -Yoink-, there should have been more.
Thank you I mean after 3 years everything should have been ready and for whatever reason 343i likes to release updates at the end of the week when they know that if it doesn’t work then they won’t be able to address it until after the weekend I think it’s time to retire the halo series as much as I love it 343i isn’t that great you don’t see flagship franchises on other consoles playing this much damage control
I don’t disagree about the quantity of the content, but at least for Halo 5, 343 focused on quality. That’s my feelings anyway.
What I’m saying is I don’t buy mario games for 5 levels and then say ok I’m gonna wait for Nintendo to release the rest of the levels point is all these game companies have been releasing incomplete software and making money and I’m tired of it
I knew things were never going to be the same when I heard a new 343i company from Microsoft was taking over Halo.
BTB was not a launch playlist because 343 wanted everyone to play Warzone.
They focused on quality over quantity and I’m glad. I’d rather have 5 solid maps than 12 maps that make me want to pull my hair out.
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> Here’s my rant just to get my thoughts out…no need to get mad or upset everyone should be allowed to get there opinion out here goes…
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> Why when bungie produced 3 online halo games that the online multiplayer was almost perfect as far as Playlist and gametypes where only thing that needed fixing was small updates such as fine tuning the gameplay through updates and they actually kept you informed on what was going on through the process
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> But 343i ships a incomplete product 3 times in a row in H4, MCC, and now H5 all missing major gametypes that’s been a staple of halo since halo 2 then add them in temporary Playlist that last for only a weekend lack of maps for warzone where you end up playing the same map 3 times straight remove being able to see what medals you earned to tell you well now I have to go to waypoint to see them which is dumb so I have to quit the game I’m playing just to see my medals.
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> My point being is 343i is not taking halo in the right direction the new features are good as far as Spartan abilities but the lack of core features in H5 especially BTB which should have been ready at launch along with forge or the fact that H4 btb was only slayer when it first came out no bomb or flag or the fact that mcc btb and most gametypes didn’t and sometimes still don’t work is amazing to me. I know we’ll people will say we’ll they didn’t want any issues like mcc had but for Yoinks sake they shouldn’t have any problems the game is barebones and they’re too cryptic when making announcements one minute they say something next you don’t hear anything for 3 months lol for a 3 year development time you’d think the full game would have shipped… ok I’m done
For Halo 4 the only complaints i remember at launch related to launch was that the file sharing for Forge didn’t work right and the whole Crimson DLC debacle. Other than those H4 launched pretty solidly. they did add stuff as the game went along. But as far as I know those things were not in previous games-griftball being one example.
For MCC, That was a big mistake in the way it was done. Most people don’t realize that a good portion of it was outsourced(almost always a bad idea, Aliens: Colonial Space Marines is proof of that).
Now with Halo 5, 343 obviously took a step back and said, instead of trying to have 20 gametypes that we may have to fix, lets limit the gametypes to the core gametypes, that way we can focus on quality and glitch fixing. This has been proven to be a good idea as the launch and matchmaking have been incredibly smooth very comparable to COD’s matchmaking. 343 is committed to added content to keep players playing, that should be obvious by now. How many gametypes is enough. I play all day on the weekends Saturday and Sunday and never get bored. Sounds like you may have ADHD.
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> I knew things were never going to be the same when I heard a new 343i company from Microsoft was taking over Halo.
Can’t disagree. Given how 343 managed that train wreck called Halo MCC it wasn’t pretty.
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> BTB was not a launch playlist because 343 wanted everyone to play Warzone.
Even if btb was ready at launch people would still tried warzone because that’s what they was pushing it. But to remove all core aspects of the halo series to promote something that’s not for everyone is beyond me. It’s like they didn’t even think warzone through its very repetitive especially with three maps should have had more objectives
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> > Here’s my rant just to get my thoughts out…no need to get mad or upset everyone should be allowed to get there opinion out here goes…
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> > Why when bungie produced 3 online halo games that the online multiplayer was almost perfect as far as Playlist and gametypes where only thing that needed fixing was small updates such as fine tuning the gameplay through updates and they actually kept you informed on what was going on through the process
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> > But 343i ships a incomplete product 3 times in a row in H4, MCC, and now H5 all missing major gametypes that’s been a staple of halo since halo 2 then add them in temporary Playlist that last for only a weekend lack of maps for warzone where you end up playing the same map 3 times straight remove being able to see what medals you earned to tell you well now I have to go to waypoint to see them which is dumb so I have to quit the game I’m playing just to see my medals.
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> > My point being is 343i is not taking halo in the right direction the new features are good as far as Spartan abilities but the lack of core features in H5 especially BTB which should have been ready at launch along with forge or the fact that H4 btb was only slayer when it first came out no bomb or flag or the fact that mcc btb and most gametypes didn’t and sometimes still don’t work is amazing to me. I know we’ll people will say we’ll they didn’t want any issues like mcc had but for Yoinks sake they shouldn’t have any problems the game is barebones and they’re too cryptic when making announcements one minute they say something next you don’t hear anything for 3 months lol for a 3 year development time you’d think the full game would have shipped… ok I’m done
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> I play all day on the weekends Saturday and Sunday and never get bored. Sounds like you may have ADHD.
Or higher standards.
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> > BTB was not a launch playlist because 343 wanted everyone to play Warzone.
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> Even if btb was ready at launch people would still tried warzone because that’s what they was pushing it. But to remove all core aspects of the halo series to promote something that’s not for everyone is beyond me. It’s like they didn’t even think warzone through its very repetitive especially with three maps should have had more objectives
They didn’t think a lot of things through. Who would want to play SWAT where the instant respawn and poor map design does nothing by create spawn killing/camping. It’s like 343 didn’t even play their own game prior to release to flesh these things out.
I agree to an extent. At some point I feel as though there should be more playlists and maps, but on the other hand I feel like the way they have it has brought me back to the original playlists and now I’m not secluded in a one-off playlist like team snipers.
I disagree and I played all the halo games including tons of hours of LAN halo 1 in college. I actually like 343 better than bungie for listening to the fans and also for giving us halo mcc/halo 1 on Xbox live… Something I don’t think bungie would have ever did. However I do agree that bungie was a bit more reliable and simple… I think 343 just got ambitious and overcommitted to the halo mcc launch.
Howevee i think 343 caught up and is ahead of bungie by a good Margin with halo 5. Halo 5 is very polished and balanced, and my favorite halo game thus far. Halo 5 rank system with the new silver/diamond/etc, placement matches, based solely on team win/loss, and seasonal rank resets Is the best yet by far. Arena gaming is finally focused on competitive skill play with small maps, equal starts, and static weapon respawns, and pistol starts to properly reward movement and strategy to control BR and other power weapons. War zone is perfect (and importantly seperate) for addressing large team play, loadouts customization, and more casual yet still competitive play. All the weapons are great and balanced in H5. Plus 60 fps and dedicated servers. Btb is coming now and was not needed at launch with war zone and arena more important… And btb is coming only 3 weeks after launch. 343 successfully brought halo back to its important key roots with arena playlists, incorporated sprint/thrust /clamber/abilities to modernized the game some with its competition while still keeping it balanced with competitive arena style, and brought in war zone to provide large war style gameplay variety which is good fun and also addresses some of the competition from other larger war style games (although yes its still different as well).
My favorite halo games in order: Halo 5, Halo 1, Halo MCC, Halo 2, halo 3, halo 4, halo reach…
I will say halo 2 and halo 3 had the best online rank systems until now with halo 5 being the best.
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> I don’t disagree about the quantity of the content, but at least for Halo 5, 343 focused on quality. That’s my feelings anyway.
So quality of game play would apply? They broke SWAT b/c of instant respawn/killing. They launched with known deadzone issues. What about the quality of the map design? Why do you think they removed Orion? The majority of the other maps look/play bad.
I agree the quantity is lacking but let’s look at h3 at release compared to h5. This is from bungies forums as well.
Ranked
Halo5 halo 3
Ffa. Lone wolves
Team arena. Team tactical
Slayer. Slayer
Breakout. Team objective
Swat. Doubles
Now we go to social playlists
Warzone. Rumble pit
Warzone assault. Social slayer
Btb. (Update) Social skirmish
H3Btb
H3Multi team
H3Social doubles
So basically if we get non ranked versions of the current playlists we are good? We didn’t get swat or snipers til later and team objective and tactical disappeared if memory serves correctly.
Now on to maps and I won’t count the slight variations as differnt maps.
H5. H3
Fathom. Construct
Empire/eden. Epitaph
Truth/regret. Guardian
Orion (broken) high ground
Pegasus. Isolation
Apex 7. Last resort
Storm break. Narrows
Arc. Sandtrap
Plaza. Snowbound
Breakout maps (all as one) The pit
Coliseum. Valhalla
The rig
The game has only been out a few weeks let’s give it time before we bash too hard. Compared to h3 it’s not all that different from its launch and look how well it turned out. 343 isn’t bungie and I’m not trying to protect them or trying to pawn forge maps as Btb maps in this update. They are doing some things really well this time around and doing different things. We will get more permanent playlists and designer maps. Let’s just be happy we got even though they are forged copies of some of our favorite maps for Btb and await official maps down the road.
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> > Here’s my rant just to get my thoughts out…no need to get mad or upset everyone should be allowed to get there opinion out here goes…
> >
> > Why when bungie produced 3 online halo games that the online multiplayer was almost perfect as far as Playlist and gametypes where only thing that needed fixing was small updates such as fine tuning the gameplay through updates and they actually kept you informed on what was going on through the process
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> > But 343i ships a incomplete product 3 times in a row in H4, MCC, and now H5 all missing major gametypes that’s been a staple of halo since halo 2 then add them in temporary Playlist that last for only a weekend lack of maps for warzone where you end up playing the same map 3 times straight remove being able to see what medals you earned to tell you well now I have to go to waypoint to see them which is dumb so I have to quit the game I’m playing just to see my medals.
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> > My point being is 343i is not taking halo in the right direction the new features are good as far as Spartan abilities but the lack of core features in H5 especially BTB which should have been ready at launch along with forge or the fact that H4 btb was only slayer when it first came out no bomb or flag or the fact that mcc btb and most gametypes didn’t and sometimes still don’t work is amazing to me. I know we’ll people will say we’ll they didn’t want any issues like mcc had but for Yoinks sake they shouldn’t have any problems the game is barebones and they’re too cryptic when making announcements one minute they say something next you don’t hear anything for 3 months lol for a 3 year development time you’d think the full game would have shipped… ok I’m done
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> For Halo 4 the only complaints i remember at launch related to launch was that the file sharing for Forge didn’t work right and the whole Crimson DLC debacle. Other than those H4 launched pretty solidly. they did add stuff as the game went along. But as far as I know those things were not in previous games-griftball being one example.
> For MCC, That was a big mistake in the way it was done. Most people don’t realize that a good portion of it was outsourced(almost always a bad idea, Aliens: Colonial Space Marines is proof of that).
> Now with Halo 5, 343 obviously took a step back and said, instead of trying to have 20 gametypes that we may have to fix, lets limit the gametypes to the core gametypes, that way we can focus on quality and glitch fixing. This has been proven to be a good idea as the launch and matchmaking have been incredibly smooth very comparable to COD’s matchmaking. 343 is committed to added content to keep players playing, that should be obvious by now. How many gametypes is enough. I play all day on the weekends Saturday and Sunday and never get bored. Sounds like you may have ADHD.
Really adhd? How about bungie set a standard and left 343i the blueprints to how halo multiplayer is suppose to bet setup and 343i threw it out the window and starting shipping out and incomplete content… and for the guy who said h4 shipped a perfect btb how about the fact it didn’t have assault or ctf btb until months after release and it still doesn’t have assault and the problem with mcc wasn’t because of having multiple devs it was 343i who did the networking for mcc that was the only thing broken with the game the other devs parts worked just fine
I’m actually quite happy with the maps. I think they should also add in some of the great small maps from halo 1 , 2, and 3 as well. I liked Orion and never had
a problem with it in my games… Glad they are fixing the bug, but I hope they add it back soon once fixed and to me the bug was a small issue.i am glad they are addressing dead zone and swat spawns, but these are minor issues to me also compared with all the other positive polished balances of the game. And the main point is that they caught these minor issues and are addressing them… Again minor in my opinion at least (not show stoppers and not reducig the fun.)
The deadzones were not an issue per say. They were more design choice based on a few things. There is an article on it somewhere that I’m ure you can find. With that said After hearing complaints they will be fixing it soon.
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> > > Here’s my rant just to get my thoughts out…no need to get mad or upset everyone should be allowed to get there opinion out here goes…
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> > > Why when bungie produced 3 online halo games that the online multiplayer was almost perfect as far as Playlist and gametypes where only thing that needed fixing was small updates such as fine tuning the gameplay through updates and they actually kept you informed on what was going on through the process
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> > > But 343i ships a incomplete product 3 times in a row in H4, MCC, and now H5 all missing major gametypes that’s been a staple of halo since halo 2 then add them in temporary Playlist that last for only a weekend lack of maps for warzone where you end up playing the same map 3 times straight remove being able to see what medals you earned to tell you well now I have to go to waypoint to see them which is dumb so I have to quit the game I’m playing just to see my medals.
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> > > My point being is 343i is not taking halo in the right direction the new features are good as far as Spartan abilities but the lack of core features in H5 especially BTB which should have been ready at launch along with forge or the fact that H4 btb was only slayer when it first came out no bomb or flag or the fact that mcc btb and most gametypes didn’t and sometimes still don’t work is amazing to me. I know we’ll people will say we’ll they didn’t want any issues like mcc had but for Yoinks sake they shouldn’t have any problems the game is barebones and they’re too cryptic when making announcements one minute they say something next you don’t hear anything for 3 months lol for a 3 year development time you’d think the full game would have shipped… ok I’m done
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> > I play all day on the weekends Saturday and Sunday and never get bored. Sounds like you may have ADHD.
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> Or higher standards.
Standards are very much, a matter of opinion. As for your complaint about the maps, the only issue I have seen is People unintentionally jumping off the map because they thought the would land on a platform not knowing the platform was not there, I think the map is RIG. I think. I’ve also played swat a few times. I have not had respawn issues. But I’m a lower rank than you. 4 vs 4 almost forces the need for small maps. Small maps are easier to learn and learn where spawns are. They can go for totally random spawns , but that may or may not fix the issues again due to small maps.
you also are conveniently are ignoring that the game launched almost ALMOST flawlessly as far as matchmaking is concerned. I’ll take the issues you see to have wit the game vs disfunctional matchmaking any day. We are in a new era of gaming. No game will be launched perfectly. they are incredibly complicated in their design. IF you want a flawless game. You might want to get accustomed to disappointment.